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Oops, meant 6 million.

I also love that you jump to conclusions about me. I own a Wii. I play it to death. But that does not mean whatever Nintendo says is God's word. If PR is stupid, I say it's stupid. If sales do great, I say they do great.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
It's actually a fact, the majority of Wii owners don't need a harddrive, and will never download enough crap to fill up the space already on their Wii's to begin with.

Do any of you really believe that's not true?

As for dtwei, Nintendo is working on a solution, or so they say, calling Nintendo stupid? Honestly, I don't see how you came to that conclusion. I for one don't think your argument holds water, and on top of that, what are we supposed to think about you when you call Nintendo's marketing and PR "stupid" but defend Sony's or Microsoft's? Aren't they really the "stupid" ones from a business perspective, if anyone is?

The decision to lower the storage in the Wii is obviously to keep the cost of the console down. I think that worked pretty well.

And when 75 percent of the Wii userbase has absolutly no need for any additional space, and when Nintendo says that in a Press Release, right alongside the other thing they say, which is "We're working on it for the other 25 percent though, just to keep them happy," I don't see where you get "stupid" from.

Sounds like the average internet argument that had about 10 seconds of thought put into it, which resulted in a really offensive, generic, and ironic post.

That is true consider the fact that as far as VC games go and WiiWare are concerned what was it last 2-million Wii owners online. So out of the 25-million Wii owners only about 2-million of them are downloading content. This means that the small minority that is downloading content should not be Nintendo's first priority.

 Well some Nintendo reps are stupid especially those in Europe not because they are idiots but because they are never in the loop. Nintendo Of Japan knows everything Nintendo Of America knows about half of what Nintendo Of Japan knows and Nintendo Of Europe is lucky to know anything at all. However Nintendo Of Europe always claims they do know what they are talking about.

Nintendo's system of information distibution is stupid. I'm sorry but it is, Nintendo Of Canada for example runs all of its own operations. However you can't contact Nintendo Of Canada you can only contact Nintendo Of America. This leads to Nintendo Of America telling you that they don't know what Nintendo of Canada is doing. The lack of information to Nintendo's different branches is a major set  back and stupid that after all of these years Nintendo still can't co-ordinate its staff.

One rep in one country says one thing while another in another country says something totally different. I have learnt not to listen to Nintendo Of Europe reps at all I mean in ONM they confirmed EarthBound Mother 3 for GBA, they confirmed ExiteTruck2 and they said their would be no NintendoDS:Lite a day after Nintendo announced it in Japan. Nintendo Of Europe claimed to GamesIndustry.biz that the new DS was only a rumour and not actually happening their will be no knew model. Since then ONM and Nintendo's European reps have made one announcement after another that turn out to be entirely false or fabricated.

 



-JC7

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Until they start offering Wii demos on the Nintendo Channel I don't see this as a problem really. Personally I've had a Wii since launch and have yet to run out of space even with numerous VC downloads.
Besides, how many VC/Wiiware games do you simultaneously need available? I've deleted a few VC games already just since they never got played anymore. I can always redownload them if I choose.

Hopefully Nintendo will do a system update that will allow any harddrive to be plugged in, even if they don't advertise it, just to please the core gamers.



 

dtewi said:
When have I defended Sony and Microsoft? Their PR is arrogant trash talk.

But a hard drive is necessary to some consumers, and Ninty is telling them to fuck off, which is a bastard move.

If the 25% is true, then 8 million need a hard drive. Saying that they don't need it could lead to less interest which could generate bad sales. Ninty ignoring that is stupid.

You'd do well to actually read the rest of the topic before posting again.  



*sigh* this is why people should think before they post topics. Honestly this topic should probably just be locked. If not a thousand angry Nintendo fanboys are going to come in screaming because of the statement of some random German PR guy which has no effect on the storage solution that Iwata said IS ALREADY BEING MADE.



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naznatips said:
*sigh* this is why people should think before they post topics. Honestly this topic should probably just be locked. If not a thousand angry Nintendo fanboys are going to come in screaming because of the statement of some random German PR guy which has no effect on the storage solution that Iwata said IS ALREADY BEING MADE.

 this is true, but this just shows that companies really needto educate PR reps on company products more often.



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dtewi said:
Oops, meant 6 million.

I also love that you jump to conclusions about me. I own a Wii. I play it to death. But that does not mean whatever Nintendo says is God's word. If PR is stupid, I say it's stupid. If sales do great, I say they do great.

I never jumped to conclusions about you, I simply analized your post, correctly.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Never ever listen to anything ONM has to say because they are full of crap half the time. Honestly Nintendo needs to work on its co-ordination of information I knew more then the Nintendo Canada reps at the PNE. I went their and asked them about E3 and what Nintendo had in store and their own reps didn't have a clue about what I was talking about.

Infact the reps themselves told me I should apply because they are simply hired to promote certain specific products and aren't actually knowledgable about Nintendo operations. So the PR people know nothing really they don't even know about the current software lineups or basic information about the hardware.

Nintendo needs to hire actual reps. People with brains, I'm sorry to all the legit reps at Nintendo because I'm sure their are plenty and I have met at least two who actually had a clue. But after attending the PNE and contacting NOA about Nintendo Canada operations. After reading ONM make promise after promise.

The only people worth listening too at Nintendo are its CEO's and Presidents. Anybody lower the President doesn't usually know what they are talking about especially from Europe!



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

You didn't do it correctly! I do not like the other consoles! I like the Wii, not 360 or PS3. But I do not le my bias overcome my posts. I simply state what I think is the truth.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

It's probably more than 75% that don't need the additional storage space.

But it's that minority percentage that's the most vocal about this shortcoming of the Wii. And it's a legitimate concern, particularly for those who are already deleting data off their console to make room for new saves and downloads.

But just using myself as an example, who has most likely purchased more VC games than the average user and currently has more physical media softs than the average attach rate, still have enough space for future game saves.

Now if I start downloading Wii Ware games, then I will probably have some problems. So if Wii Ware is something Nintendo is serious about using to push DD games, they are not doing well in addressing the future.

I don't personally see the need for additional hardware that only single digit percentages are likely to buy. It would be nice for some to be able to buy another Wii peripheral, but all Nintendo really has to do rather than go through the logistical process of sourcing, marketing and shipping an add on product, is write a firmware update for the OS to allow the use of any generic USB storage device and devise a reliable form of DRM to prevent widespread abuse by the average user.

Game saves (or any data that may be user duplicated) should be capable of being played off SD card. If speed is an issue, they could release high speed updates to the official Wii SD cards already being sold.