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Final-Fan on 13 May 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
BTW, this is not bashing people who like graphics, because I actually like good graphics. I think the new screens for games like Gears of War 2 look really cool. Yet I also look at the game in overall terms. Those who, seem to not care about other aspects, are graphics whores.
Why did you, put those two commas, in that last sentence?  I saw the same type of thing elsewhere. 

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twesterm on 13 May 2008
Final-Fan said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
BTW, this is not bashing people who like graphics, because I actually like good graphics. I think the new screens for games like Gears of War 2 look really cool. Yet I also look at the game in overall terms. Those who, seem to not care about other aspects, are graphics whores.
Why did you, put those two commas, in that last sentence? I saw the same type of thing elsewhere.

 Thank God I'm not, the only, person that bothered.



 

LordTheNightKnight on 13 May 2008

It's called a typo. I fixed it.



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twesterm on 13 May 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
It's called a typo. I fixed it.

o rly?

LordTheNightKnight said:

2. Pretend "Graphics don't matter," is a literal phrase.

3. It's not having the best graphics, it's trying to have the best graphics.

6. People, who put down graphics, are philistines.

9. People, who put down graphics, are jealous.



 

 



 

LordTheNightKnight on 13 May 2008
twesterm said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
It's called a typo. I fixed it.

o rly?

LordTheNightKnight said:

2. Pretend "Graphics don't matter," is a literal phrase.

3. It's not having the best graphics, it's trying to have the best graphics.

6. People, who put down graphics, are philistines.

9. People, who put down graphics, are jealous.



 

 


Those are appropriate comma uses in formal writing.

Take point 2. What's in quotes is an independent clause, which means it should end with some punctuation point. Since the rest of the sentence follows, and that clause is not a question or exclaimation, it ends with a comma.

Point 3 is joining two independent clauses, but in the form of a single sentence, thus either a comma or semi-colon is used to join them.

Point 6 and 9 are complete sentences if you remove what is in between the commas, so the commas are used to set off the qualifying dependent clauses. 



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twesterm on 13 May 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
twesterm said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
It's called a typo. I fixed it.

o rly?

LordTheNightKnight said:

2. Pretend "Graphics don't matter," is a literal phrase.

3. It's not having the best graphics, it's trying to have the best graphics.

6. People, who put down graphics, are philistines.

9. People, who put down graphics, are jealous.



 

 


Those are appropriate comma uses in formal writing.

Take point 2. What's in quotes is an independent clause, which means it should end with some punctuation point. Since the rest of the sentence follows, and that clause is not a question or exclaimation, it ends with a comma.

Point 3 is joining two independent clauses, but in the form of a single sentence, thus either a comma or semi-colon is used to join them.

Point 6 and 9 are complete sentences if you remove what is in between the commas, so the commas are used to set off the qualifying dependent clauses.


 Hmm, I don't believe but I'll let the fiance figure that out tonight if you're right (and I don't mind being wrong) since English is one of her majors.  She's a whee bit better at this stuff for me.

Point 2: I know you can put in a comma after someone is talking but not sure if you use it there.  If I'm wrong though that's the one I'm most likely wrong on.

 Point 3: I left that part in there by mistake because I'm an idiot like that sometimes.

Point 6 and 9: If you say it out loud it does not sound right in any way at all.  So technically you may be right but it's distracting as all Hell to say People *pause* who put down graphics *pause* are jealous rather than just saying People who down graphics are jealous.

Remember, the point in writing something generally isn't to use as many words, pauses, whatever as possible, it's to get your point across directly as possible.  I don't care if people have perfect grammar (I know I don't), I just like things to be clear and easily readable.



 

LordTheNightKnight on 13 May 2008

Well you got me on easily readable over perfect grammar, so I adjusted 6 and 9.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Final-Fan on 14 May 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
6. People, who put down graphics, are philistines.
9. People, who put down graphics, are jealous.
Point 6 and 9 are complete sentences if you remove what is in between the commas, so the commas are used to set off the qualifying dependent clauses.
I'm no English major either but I don't think that's completely correct. The qualifying clause is necessary to the meaning of the sentence. It's different from saying, for instance, "LordtheNightKnight, a poster at VGChartz, likes to use commas." In that case I don't think you're generally supposed to have commas.

I don't mean to drag this out or beat a dead horse, so you can ignore this if you want, but if you want to pursue this question then obviously I've made myself available. 

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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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Final-Fan on 14 May 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
2. Pretend "Graphics don't matter," is a literal phrase.
What's in quotes is an independent clause, which means it should end with some punctuation point. Since the rest of the sentence follows, and that clause is not a question or exclaimation, it ends with a comma.
That's true, but in that case I believe you're also supposed to put one before the quotation:  "Pretend, 'Graphics don't matter,' is a literal phrase."  It's the fact that you used one but only one that's the mistake.

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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Sen. Pat Moynihan
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The old smileys: ; - ) : - ) : - ( : - P : - D : - # ( c ) ( k ) ( y ) If anyone knows the shortcut for , let me know!
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LordTheNightKnight on 14 May 2008

I already took them out. See my post above yours, so HA!











A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs