Euphoria14 said:
sc94597 said:
Euphoria14 said:
SuperLloyd said:
Euphoria14 said:
MANUELF said: @Euphoria14 Name me three big budget third party games actually released on Wii. |
What does budget have to do with it? SE isn't known for low budget games yet "The World Ends With You" isn't selling that great considering it is on a handheld with a 70+ million userbase. RE4, Guitar Hero and soon to be Rock Band. Satisfied? RE4 sold decent due to a $29.99 price tag and Guitar Hero III due to the fact that it is a casual game. I would give more but this is not what this topic is about. |
Budget has everything to do with it. Where else are they going to get teh money to advertise the game? And SE is known for low budget game. Just look at their PSP library, all of those rehashes would have been bombs if they hadn't been low budget,outsourced rehashes. And The World En with You is selling faily well. I don't know about you but I don't consider 1 Million to be the single threshold of success for all games. Not every game has a budget where 1 million units sold would be the only way to make some kind of profit. Also, all of those games you listd are ports, and two of them will most likelyend up with 2+ million lifetime sales. YourGuitar Hero excuse...ugh. You have one for everything. |
If you believe GH III is harcore then you are wrong. I am making no excuses. As I stated more than once already I have zero problems with aWii release of KH III, just I personally feel an exclusive Wii release would be the wrong choice. Since when has SE been known for low budget games either? Star Ocean, Final Fantasy, The World Ends With You, Dragon Quest, Mana Series, Front Mission, Radiata Stories, etc... are not exactly low budget. |
No this is the point we are making. You said 3rd partyhardcore games don't sell on the wii. We said that is because all of them are low budget. SO that means since there is no high budget games to compare we don't know how it would sell on the wii. |
I said before I think it is more to due with the fact that Nintendo does not market their 3rd party games as much as they should. Which is why I felt that games like Zack and Wiki, Trauma Center and No More Heroes hasn't sold as well as they should have. Has nothing to do with how large the budget is. MS doesn't make their 3rd party games (of course, duh) but they still try to advertise, which is why they sell so well. Do I think they could never sell, of course not, but with their history of 3rd party non casual sales I feel an exclusive release would be a bad move on SE's part, considering they know many PS3 fans as well are looking forward to this game. It just seems people believe I am completely against a Wii release period which I have stated from the start of this discussion I am not. |
Nintendo doesn't have to market other people's games at all, so saying they aren't marketing as much as they should doesn't make any sense when they're not obligated in the slightest. If the 3rd parties are incompetent at marketing their own products it's not something Nintendo should pay (literally) for.
MS only advertise the games that directly benefit them and hurts Sony. Considering they have a lot more money to burn, it's not really a surprise.
You continuously cite Zack & Wiki, No More Heroes, and Trauma Center, ignoring the fact that they are successful. Saying they didn't sell as much as you feel is, quite frankly, an asinine argument for multiple reasons. One, something so vague could be chalked up to 50 million sales for each game. Second, it's not about you but the games themselves, all of which were a success. Third, you can spin it however you like...something we're clearly seeing by you either ignoring these games success or simply being incapable of recgnizing reality.
But it's nice to see the truth come out. KH3 on the Wii is a bad idea not because 3rd party games magically don't sell. It's because the PS3 fans wouldn't like it.