@ l_Emmiwinks, do you think Sony could kind of "skip" a generation? I mean, could they effectively continue supporting PS3 for the rest of the next gen (the one after this current gen), or is this not possible. I think it would be pretty amazing and a pretty good idea.
| NYANKS said: @ l_Emmiwinks, do you think Sony could kind of "skip" a generation? I mean, could they effectively continue supporting PS3 for the rest of the next gen (the one after this current gen), or is this not possible. I think it would be pretty amazing and a pretty good idea. |
If the Cell is has as much potential as people are saying it will when its fully realized, then I think its perfectly possible for Sony to last 10 years and still be prominent on the Console scene. To skip the next generation could also be possible if the Wii sticks to the rumored 4 year life span and MS releases the next console in the next 2-3 years, since Sony would just not make a new console till those new ones are ready to have THEIR successors.
The only real issue holding the PS3 back technologically is the low RAM count.
But yeah, if they can effectively skip a generation, or to put it better, have released the PS3 a generation before its time it would reap them unfathomable benefits.
I own all three current consoles and a great gaming rig, now thats out of the way.
This space Reserved for the Nuggets of Wisdom dropped by Bladeforce:
"Why post something like this when all it will get is PS3 owners blinded to reality replying? BOTH THE PS3 AND BLUE-RAY WILL NOT LAST 3 YEARS! TECHNOLOGY CHANGED TOO FAST!"
"is it Wii FIt that has sold as many as PS3's sold? Thats a LOL Look at the total sales of software is it just me that sees Nintendo titles hitting 10m+ and you say they arent making a difference? Another LOL!"
"Hell, with all the negative hype Sony spin, people just aren't interested cost is too high and to get the true HD experience (1080p, 7.1 surround) you will need a $1000+ system. THAT IS GOING TO DO IT IN A RECESSION! PS4 will not happen"
Umm why havent people considered the cost of devloping new hardware.
Nintendo is in the best posituion to release a new console due to the low cost of devloping the Wii ... however the Wii is the market leader ... therefore Nintendo will let it live out its lifespan ...
SONY want PS3 to last 10 years becuase it cost them BILLIONS to create and sell .... they won't release a PS4 untill they have to ...
Microsoft -- their only just generating a profit ... do you think their prepared to send 360 back into the red by spending a billion or so $$ on R&D for a next-box ?? Microsoft is quite happy with the 360 at the moment and im sure they wil attempt to reach the market first once they know their competitors are going to release new consoles ( eg. reliable info that SONY / Nintendo are going to annouce new consoles )
|_emmiwinks said:
You are completely wrong on every level.
First off the XBOX720 would be as much as at least the 360 was on launch, so around 500 dollars while the PS3 will be far enough into its cycle to be easily at the 199-299 price point. (2-3 years from now) Lets be safe and say 300 dollars. So while MAYBE the 720 could do more then the PS3, it would cost almost twice as much, and the development costs would be astronomical for it again, while the same costs on the PS3 would be far, far lower.*1
Its library would be around 10 titles big, while the PS3 in 2-3 years will have hundreds of HD titles that would (as 3rd generation games at least) look better then anything on the new 720. (production values take a while to hit full potential).*1
Also while the 720 would not only be competeing with the PS3 at 300 dollars, it would be competeing with the 360 still, at a lower price point. Microsoft would effectively split their base with at least two technologically simular, far cheaper competitors on the market, one being themselves cannibalizing the new system.*1
Everything you just said would just lead to Sony destroying Microsoft and their new console. This is why I feel that Microsoft is actually in a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation. their console is not as powerful as the PS3, it doesnt have the disc storage it needs to continue to get Multiplat games (not for long at least) and it has the nasty habit of dying. So they are of course going to want to release the next console as soon as possible. *2
However the PS3 is holding all the cards, if Sony is serious that the PS3 will be support for at the min 10 years, the XBOX360 has to stay on the market for at least 8 to 9 years to avoid dropping a high priced, high risk console into the market to compete against the PS3 and the 360 and the Wii all at the same time and all at much lower cost points with better installed libraries But at that point the 360's hardware would have been maxed out years earlier showing little progress against what Im sure most reasonable people can agree is just a more powerful/future forward system.*2
See the catch? Caught between a rock and a hard place. This is why I feel the 360 might actually break Microsofts console divisions back. Maybe.*3 |
*1 -
All of this assumes that the PS3 will unlock some godly power heretofore unrecognized by gamers and developers alike. While I realize that as developers better understand the PS3 they'll be able to do more, you greatly overestimate just how much that more is.
You're also using the PS3 launch to try to predict the difficulties the 720 would have at launch, when what you really should be using is the 360 as your method to predict. The Xbox didn't kill 360 sales, so I don't see why the 360 sales would kill the 720 sales.
And what's with your claim that the 720 would only have access to 10 titles? 360 had at least basic backwards compatibility, it was only the PS3 that cut off BC after launch, effectively reducing it's game list from hundreds to tens. Within just one year, Microsoft was able to get ahold of numerous exclusives for the 360, yet you believe there's no way for Microsoft to do this when they have FIVE years to acquire exclusives for the 720?
On top of this, you also seem to assume that the 720 is going to have a period where developers have to learn the new system like they had to do with the PS3, except the 720 has the option of just pulling straigth from teh 360 adn making it more powerful, or they could even potentially implement something similar to the Cell, but either way, developers would be able to pull from past experience on the PS3 and 360 to greatly reduce the time it would take to get up to speed on the new console.
*2 - okay, I can see teh damned if they don't, I'm still waiting for the damned if they do part.
*3 - Sorry, I just don't see it. Microsoft is trapped between a rock(leaving the 360 out on the market) and a place that they've already been and had turned out just fine for them before.
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The ps3 was built to have a ten year life cycle. But the 360 and wii will last as long is the ps3 will. That would be the same as if this new gen didn't come. The ps2 would still be getting all the games and would still be the console of choice if there was no new gen. I'm sure that each would be developing a new console, but it would be to Nintendo's advantage for this current gen to last as long as it possibly can. If Sony wants a chance at recapturing their top spot, they would have to force the issue on a new gen making Nintendo and Microsoft follow.
The lifespan of the NES ended last year. For reference, it launched in 1983.
People are confusing generation with lifespan I think. The PS3 should have at least 10 years in its lifespan though its generation will end long, long before then. If the NES can go 24 years, I think that any system should be able to make 10 years.
Can someone let me know what 2nd place console was still supported 10 years after launch??
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| gebx said: Can someone let me know what 2nd place console was still supported 10 years after launch?? |
The Genesis got a new game last year.
Words Of Wisdom said:
The Genesis got a new game last year. |
That's not fair... :(
Is it AirBiz 3??
See people.. no worries about the PS3 library, if the genesis gets games decades after its launch then I'm sure the PS3 will get some too...
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