man, this is a nice thread...To bad no one cares :D
Old Brawl code..ask for my new one..
this thread is sad dev's counted there chickens before they hatched got lizards now they have to play catch-up just wait afew more months.
radioioRobert said:
FJ-Warez, you are right, he would complain either way. The winning console gets the bonus of getting the most shovelware. Every generation. Um, did Sony "destroy" the industry by allowing Winnie to Pooh, Rugrats & Bob the Builder games on the Playstation? Or: Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Or how about this list of "Stellar" PS2 titles: Blade II EVERY console gets shovelware, and the winning console gets the most....
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yeah, but the Wii is getting a higher percentage of crap than the PS2 did. We just had thread about that. Also, the Wii is getting a lower number of great games. Still, it's not all bad.
| loadedstatement said: Ok. Constructive criticism. First of all Carnival Games was neither developed OR published by Nintendo. Much of the shovelware these days isn't. Nintendo still offers just what they always have for the most part. How many Mario games were on the 64? One platformer, Mario party, Mario Kart, Mario sports games, etc. The 64 never saw a Metroid. The 64 had 2 Zelda games. We've had one so far (Not including Crossbow training) and will definitely have another before the generation is over. You don't like Nintendo because of sales? How does that effect how much fun you have on the systems? It doesn't. Do more research. Nintendo has always been this way.
That being said, if you want a bunch of shooters (CoD, Bioshock, Halo, etc etc), go get a 360. But Nintendo has never had those types of games. |
Uh, others in this thread have mentioned Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Those were the best FPS on consoles then. Also, Metroid Prime is pretty much a shooter with more puzzles than usual. Seems like they would consider it a litle more considering the controls lend themselves to FPS.
| wareagle372 said: When i started playing videogames around 1995, Child. i got a Gameboy Pocket and i loved it. The next year, I got a N64(which is my favorite console of all time) First is always best. But it's a good call regardless. and enjoyed the wide range of games, After about 2 years. It had an anemic library for the first year. and great games for kids that even adults can't help but enjoy. The Gamecube came out and I wasn't impressed with the range of games. I thought that it was just a bad generation so I waited for the next generation in hopes for a better range of games. The Wii came out and i have to admit that it is incredibly fun to use the motion sensors...for about a month. I still enjoyed the motion sensors but it wasn't INCREDIBLE to me. They have some great games like SSBB, SMG, TP, All 3 developed by Nintendo but some games that sold over a million really just blow my mind like that Carnival game... Which is not from Nintendo I'm sure its fun, but come on!!! They are commited to these more childlike games than people my age(17) and above. As an "above" - well above, actually- I can say that as you move further away from adolesence (it will end soon, promise) the less you are concerned with whether a game is "childlike" in style. In terms of gameplay, Nintendo still excells, with the exception of you're standard Mario Party games. I doubt they are going to go back to making satisfying shooter games(Metroid Prime is ok, but it comes out once like every 3 years and i am not going to wait that long). By and large, Nintendo hasn't ever made "shooter" games. The ones for which it is most known - Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Metroid Prime - are 2nd party developers; ie, technically not Nintendo. But with games like MP3, RE4, RE:UC, No More Heroes, Red Steel 2, and others, the shooters will get representation. It is simply taking developers time to catch up. So saying all this, I think that Nintendo is not for me |
If the only kind of game you are interested in are shooters, and if the number of "childlike games" on the system -even though they are not made by Nintendo and no one is forcing you to buy them- bothers you then, no, probably not. Get thee to a threesixtery.
But the real question is this: have you enjoyed the Nintendo games games on the Wii? If so, then Nintendo is for you. It may not be enough to satisfy you anymore on it's own, but that's a different thing entirely. You may want to branch out and try other systems to scratch the shooter itch, but so long as you can enjoy games like Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Metroid, there is no reason to walk away from Nintendo.
wareagle372 said:
business is like this: if you are selling well, you are doing it right, and keep it that way till things go wrong. |
The mistake you are making is this - the other companies are following Nintendo's lead, not the other way around. Nintendo will continue to make the games it wants to make, and that will be a wide variety. Nintendo showed with WiiSports that minigames can sell on the Wii, so others made minigame compilations. Surely the success of Mario Galaxy will also bring imitators. But note that with stuff like WiiFit (which you likely have little interest in) and Disaster:Day of Crisis (which you might), Nintendo is continuing to experiment - something it can do because it's established franchises give them the profit to do so.
windbane said:
yeah, but the Wii is getting a higher percentage of crap than the PS2 did. We just had thread about that. Also, the Wii is getting a lower number of great games. Still, it's not all bad. |
At this point the Wii is more comparable to the PS1 than the PS2. With the PS2, developers were on board from the start. With the PS1, the developers were uncertain as to which of the 3 consoles would take off, and were a bit hesitant in their support of it. The PS1 had lots and lots of shovelware its first couple of years, while the N64 was being known as the "quality" console. And then FF7 was released, and that opened the floodgates for the PS1's "quality" titles.
| Pikaboo said: Boo hoo hoo... Nintendo is too kiddy for me. If I can't kill a hooker and use her skull as a bong I don't want to play it... |
I play games to get away from daily life. 
| ZenfoldorVGI said: To be honest, with all the fanboyism running rampant on this site, for me to believe any anti-Nintendo posts, I need proof that the poster isn't a liar and a fanboy of another console. That would be pointless, however, since I don't care about anyone's opinions, outside my own, in the end, and I find they run opposite of yours, liar or not. |
this should not be underestimated. When the 360 and Wii were not well stocked the PS3 fans were always quick to say stuff like there was a huge pile of wiis/360s at my gamestop. Kwaad would always say he found wiis and they had been sitting there for many hours, but nobody else could find any. Fanboys have a really screwed up view at how things are going, it was only until recently that some people admit to themselves that Nintendo is actually gonna win the gen. There are still people in denial despite it being extremely obvious.
currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X
| wareagle372 said: When i started playing videogames around 1995, i got a Gameboy Pocket and i loved it. The next year, I got a N64(which is my favorite console of all time) and enjoyed the wide range of games, and great games for kids that even adults can't help but enjoy. The Gamecube came out and I wasn't impressed with the range of games. I thought that it was just a bad generation so I waited for the next generation in hopes for a better range of games. The Wii came out and i have to admit that it is incredibly fun to use the motion sensors...for about a month. I still enjoyed the motion sensors but it wasn't INCREDIBLE to me. They have some great games like SSBB, SMG, TP, but some games that sold over a million really just blow my mind like that Carnival game...I'm sure its fun, but come on!!! They are commited to these more childlike games than people my age(17) and above. I doubt they are going to go back to making satisfying shooter games(Metroid Prime is ok, but it comes out once like every 3 years and i am not going to wait that long). So saying all this, I think that Nintendo is not for me |
You were 4 years old when the N64 came out, obviously your view on gaming is different from 4 to 17. However, don't think that just because you're 17 that you're too mature for Nintendo. I'm 24 and i have the same kind of childhood memories about the late NES and SNES days, they seem like everything was perfect because you just didn't know better. You'll see things different in a few years.
You'll be looking back on yourself and saying how immature you were for trying to be so mature. The games that you think are mature may not actually be as mature as you think they are. With that said you can't go wrong with buying a PS3 or a 360, but the wii is a great system as well.
currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X
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