All of this will only happen if history repeats itself....it seems to happen quite often, but nothing is set in stone as the writer of the article thinks.

highwaystar101 said: Source: http://nintendofanalliance.com/retro/snes/nintendo-s-next-console-will-be-the-best-one-yet.html   Nintendo's next console will be their best one yet! (24 votes) Written by Phil Tuesday, 29 April 2008 A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, gamers had an interactive game for their TVs called pong. The game was hailed by computer enthusiasts all over the United States. Soon after pong came what older gamers would remember as Atari which allowed gamers to play many different kinds of games on one console. But as great as these games were, video games were seen as nerdy and a "fad" that would die out within a year or so. In 1985 a Japanese company called Nintendo decided that it wanted to bring video games to the "casual gamer" and delivered to the world the NES. Around 25 years ago video gaming was still in its infancy, and to many video gaming was a waste of time and money. Video games were not played by the masses and they happened to be a niche toy. In the mid 80's a Japanese developer and creater of Donkey Kong wanted to bring video gaming into the home and make it a family experience. Nintendo wanted to create games for the "then" so called casual gamer. Nintendo met resistance from retailers on selling the machine saying that there is no market for the NES and claiming that no one would buy it. Nintendo persisted and made a deal with retailers to buy back the systems that didn't sell in order to reduce the risk for retailers. Retailers took the deal, and Nintendo released the Nintendo Entertainment System in 1985. The system was a huge success and soon the Nintendo Mascot, Mario, became more recognizable than Disney's Mickey Mouse. In fact, Super Mario 3 for the NES sold over 18 million copies worldwide. After a successful launch of its NES, Nintendo released the Super Nintendo which dawned the 16-bit era of video games, also known as the golden years for Nintendo. The Super Nintendo became a household phenomenon and became more popular than even the NES. Games like Super Mario World, Star Fox, Mario Kart, and Donkey Kong Country left thousands of memories in the hearts of gamers. Lets move forward to today, 2008. Nintendo is again trying to expand the market like they did 23 years ago. The Nintendo Wii has outsold both the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 and new genres of games have been developed like the minigame genre and the fitness genre. (These genres have been around for awhile but the Wii has refined the genres and made them more marketable.) Wii fit, Wii Sports and Play, Nintendogs, and Brain Age are drawing in new gamers just like before with the Nintendo NES. It is easy to see why core gamers believe that Nintendo have forgotten them, but at the same time lets be reasonable; Nintendo is taking the lead on trying to attract casual gamers and they are busy showing other developers how to make games that casual gamers will buy. Nintendo has to take charge and lead the way because it is their strategy to expand the market to casual gamers, but it is important to note that Nintendo has not forgotten the core gamer. Nintendo has given the core gamers their very best IPs in the beginning of the lifespan of this generation, Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Brother Brawl, and Mario Kart to name a few. Nintendo is working overtime to make games for both the casual gamers and the core gamers.   However, as good as the NES was and as popular as it became it was the SNES that truely shined, and there is good reason to believe that Nintendo's next generation console is going to follow suit. The Wii has sold almost 25 million units as of today with the Xbox 360 at almost 19 million and the PS3 at 12 million which puts the Wii ahead of its competition by 6 million units even with the Xbox's one year head start. Just like it did 23 years ago Nintendo is changing the way that we play video games, and just like it did 15 years ago Nintendo will be releasing another console as this generation fades away and the next one comes into play. With the backing of so many new gamers and fans, Nintendo will be releasing a new console, a better console, that will be far more popular and exciting than the Super Nintendo was back in the 1990's. This next generation that we will be heading into within the next few years will probably be better than the golden years of the 16-bit era. This is an exciting time for gamers from all corners of the world as I have a good faith basis to believe that Nintendo's next generation console will be their best one to date. Imagine a console with high definition graphics, and a head-mounted sensor bar or glasses for graphics that can react to your head motions. Play the downloaded Virtual Console games that you have saved on your SD card on your new Nintendo Console, and having an online play system similar to Xbox Live. Nintendo will once again change their controller, and it will add something innovative, but most of all Nintendo will be all about the fun and creating games that everyone can enjoy. Don't believe it? Well, Nintendo is already working on some of this stuff.

 Wow.... Nintendo Fan Alliance?? Isn't that the Nintendo version of SDF???

as for bolded part... Dream big my friend.... Maybe a harddrive? ;) 

We all know Nintendo is attracting casuals. If not for casuals, they would be in last place as hardcore, mature gamers preffer ps360. However after a few years a lot of casuals become hardcore players themselves.
This is the gateway in to gaming for a lot of people...but withing 2-3 years they will be on to MMORGP's and online FPS games.

So I don't see the next wii carrying over much of the fanbase this wii creates.

Hence I disagree.

 I don't know if some casual fans (if not majority of them) will ever become hard-core fans... and that is the rub, if they are just casual fan, will they go out and by a slightly improved graphically and control-wise console again in 7-8 years.

Interesting to say the least. I still don't understand the underlying hate that casuals get. The PlayStations wouldn't have been half as successful without casuals. GTA games wouldn't have sold as well without casauls. Sports games would never be able to put out yearly iterations without casuals. Hel, most games wouldn't have the sales they do now without casuals simply because the userbase wouldn't be there.

I believe that casuals will become casuals over time, anyone remember their first NES game? For me its battle city, galaga, galaxian, warpman(my favorite we spent this with my brother till midnight till till dawn with this baby) and super mario bros. then over time I appreciate the likes of Contra, Gradius, super mario bros. 3 and castlevania. So you see, casuals will become hardcore over time.

And I know what console Nintendo be, its a virtual reality helmet, even Miyamoto wants to do it, but we are not there yet so Nintendo might aswell cash in the Wii before this helmet thing become a reality.

I never said all casuals will become MMORGP players...I just used it as an extreme example. I'll never play those games and I've played games for 20 years. :)

Also I never said all wii casuals will become hardcore players. No one is attacking the casuals here... However the line has been drawn at this point...Wii does casual gaming very well but hasn't been able to show gamers it can do an imersive  30+ hour game expereince as well as ps360. This seems to be a general consensus at this point with critics and gamers...  Its only a matter of time before "SOME" kids that are wii gamers start thinking they are badass gamers and see wii as a "lame casual machine" and decide they want to play GTA5 instead...

Stever89 

PS1 did everything well not just the casuals. So Ps2 was viewed as the continuation of the complete package hence why it took off like hotcakes. Wii 2 will have to do some other trick or gimmick if it wants to attrack a new audience as Wii has already proven that demographic doesn't care about upgraded graphics. Otherwise it is set to lose the marketshare for sure...

@disolitude

lol? Your joking?

I had to reread that.

By the by, I'm figuring 2010 Nintendo will have the most of these so called 'hardcore' titles on their system which proves your point, the self proclaimed journalists are claiming casuals are whats holding up the 'core' from getting Wii's. Of course I don't think that guy had any way to back that statement up and it was just another blurp of anti-wii feelings.

The transition however is what were talking about, and I rational it to be 'core' gamers know what they want and refuse most anything else short of being hyped, it's easy to hype something to create an instant buzz, if you don' t believe me, then ask why madden constantly sells that it took people 8 years to realize their playing an upgraded game. XD

"Look what the little man is doing, and do the exact opposite."

The guys on the shockwave of that trend will ride the wave all the way out before they catch the next big wave, so they'll keep on buying madden for a while but even they too will pan off. (Here's hoping 2009 is something special)

But that's all tangent - my point is I'm hoping it goes both ways, last thing I want in another 12 years is a shooter craze or whatever other genre becomes super mainstream.

This goes along with what you replied to me as well. The only reason why the Wii doesn't do immersive 30+ games is because no one has bothered to make a game like that. It's not that it can't do a long, story driven, great game, it's just that few have tried. Nintendo is basically the only one that has put out those types of games. Red Steel might be considered one, though it's probably not too long, and it's not that great. And it sold over a million.

So it's not that the Wii can't do it (though with lesser graphical effects and such), it's that few are trying. So by the time GTA5 comes out, there should be many many more great traditional games for the more hardcore users on the Wii, because eventually someone besides Nintendo is going to smarten up, and the game should be able to sell millions, since not only is demand there (Zelda, RE4, SMG, Red Steel all show there is demand there), but there's very little competition thus far. Besides those games I mentioned, and behaps NMH and a few others, what games really 100% cater to hardcore uses? This is where 3rd parties need to smarten up, and eventually someone's going to do it, and if no one does. Then well, I'm very disappointed in the managers and owners and everyone working there.