Really? I could get a Xenogears every decade?!?!? :D
In all seriousness, I'd rather one phenomenal new game a decade than a clone every year or two.
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.
Really? I could get a Xenogears every decade?!?!? :D
In all seriousness, I'd rather one phenomenal new game a decade than a clone every year or two.
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.
| HoloDust said: Fuck no. |
Why not? I'd love to see a Netflix or Amazon adaptation of The Silmarillion or Brave New World.
Yes, I know it means the fandoms will be polluted with the shrieking "Netflix/Amazon r**ed my favourite book" attention seeking martyrs; but meh, I don't really do online fan communities besides this one anyway so it doesn't really bother me.
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.


Netflix's adaptions are almost always absolute dogshit, the Witcher and Death Note off the top of my head were atrocious.
| curl-6 said: Netflix's adaptions are almost always absolute dogshit, the Witcher and Death Note off the top of my head were atrocious. |
I like the Witcher on Netflix. Loved the adaptation of Castlevania too.
I've never seen Death Note.
What's your point, Curl?
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| curl-6 said: Netflix's adaptions are almost always absolute dogshit, the Witcher and Death Note off the top of my head were atrocious. |
DMC and Castlevania is also dogshit. Not to mention Cowboy Bebop.



Jumpin said:
I like the Witcher on Netflix. Loved the adaptation of Castlevania too. I've never seen Death Note. What's your point, Curl? |
My point is that I'm with Holodust, Netflix's adaptions are trash.
Leynos said:
DMC and Castlevania is also dogshit. Not to mention Cowboy Bebop. |
Yeah I didn't even watch those cos I already know from Netflix's track record that they'd be terrible. They butcher everything they touch.
curl-6 said:
My point is that I'm with Holodust, Netflix's adaptions are trash. |
Ah, given your post was right after mine, I assumed that response was to me. Or at least had something insightful to say relating to the topic (except for TV shows).
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.


Jumpin said:
Ah, given your post was right after mine, I assumed that response was to me. Or at least had something insightful to say relating to the topic (except for TV shows). |
Simply my two cents on the matter referenced by Holodust, Leynos, and yourself. I'm inclined to agree with the initial comment that it's a "modern curse".
I'm not sure I'd say a series blowing up is necessarily the same thing, mind. It can be, but I'd say games breaking out into a wider audience tend to have a much better track record than Netflix.
curl-6 said:
Simply my two cents on the matter referenced by Holodust, Leynos, and yourself. I'm inclined to agree with the initial comment that it's a "modern curse". I'm not sure I'd say a series blowing up is necessarily the same thing, mind. It can be, but I'd say games breaking out into a wider audience tend to have a much better track record than Netflix. |
Generally speaking, if I'm watching an adaptation on Netflix, it's from a series I'm already a fan of. And while I do quite enjoy The Witcher and Castlevania (at least the first series, the new Castlevania kind of lost my interest), I think it's alright to have a difference of opinion.
That said, I agree that games are better than TV show adaptations... just generally speaking. While I like The Witcher on Netflix, Witcher 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, and the Witcher book series is one of my favourite fantasy book franchises of all time (probably only second to Tolkien's Middle Earth books). So, while I do regard the show as lesser, I found there is a lot that was enjoyable about it (well, at least for me).
But even if I didn't enjoy any adaptations, I wouldn't agree it is a curse. The show sparked a lot of new enthusiasm for the games and the books. While I think, ideally, they'd make a show that everyone could enjoy and it wouldn't offend/repulse anyone, I don't think that's realistic in this climate. By that, I mean the way people look at TV shows and film today, games to a lesser extent, is through interpretive lenses. And a lot of it is identity motivated, so there are these lines that they believe are sacred. Too many white people, you piss off the cosmopolitan-proponents, too many non-white people and you piss off the racists. And then there is the whole "True fan" identity, that is largely based on a nostalgic or purity view that they bake into their identity, and then get offended like a heresy has happened when something violating their internalized ruleset occurs. But this interpretive lens paradigm is not just fandoms, but a wider shift in media interpretation as a whole (already in the weeds here, but I think comedy is a good example of where this has been especially true). That's probably where I come from on this.
But just to be clear, this isn't about people that just fucking hate The Witcher (Netflix) or Netflix adaptations. :D
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Jumpin said:
Generally speaking, if I'm watching an adaptation on Netflix, it's from a series I'm already a fan of. And while I do quite enjoy The Witcher and Castlevania (at least the first series, the new Castlevania kind of lost my interest), I think it's alright to have a difference of opinion. That said, I agree that games are better than TV show adaptations... just generally speaking. While I like The Witcher on Netflix, Witcher 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, and the Witcher book series is one of my favourite fantasy book franchises of all time (probably only second to Tolkien's Middle Earth books). So, while I do regard the show as lesser, I found there is a lot that was enjoyable about it (well, at least for me). But even if I didn't enjoy any adaptations, I wouldn't agree it is a curse. The show sparked a lot of new enthusiasm for the games and the books. While I think, ideally, they'd make a show that everyone could enjoy and it wouldn't offend/repulse anyone, I don't think that's realistic in this climate. By that, I mean the way people look at TV shows and film today, games to a lesser extent, is through interpretive lenses. And a lot of it is identity motivated, so there are these lines that they believe are sacred. Too many white people, you piss off the cosmopolitan-proponents, too many non-white people and you piss off the racists. And then there is the whole "True fan" identity, that is largely based on a nostalgic or purity view that they bake into their identity, and then get offended like a heresy has happened when something violating their internalized ruleset occurs. But this interpretive lens paradigm is not just fandoms, but a wider shift in media interpretation as a whole (already in the weeds here, but I think comedy is a good example of where this has been especially true). That's probably where I come from on this. But just to be clear, this isn't about people that just fucking hate The Witcher (Netflix) or Netflix adaptations. :D |
Personally, I don't think it's necessarily that hard to just do a faithful adaption of something that doesn't needlessly change things for the worse cos Netflix (wrongly) thinks they know better than the original creators. The issue is they constantly and compulsively meddle with the original vision.
There's also just the fact that a lot of these adaptions simply don't need to exist at all and are blatantly just cynical corporate cash-grabs, like we really did not need an American live-action Death Note for instance, much less that the one they made was pigshit.
That's just my two cents though.