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xl-klaudkil said:
That term doesnt even exist, all countries are dicatorships,all put there people in prisons one way or another. |
I very rarely call out dumb arguments instead of trying to discuss, but this is absolute and utter nonsense and not worth anyone's time.
Chrkeller said:
Yes there is. Has been for a long time. People want to pin everything on the US by ignoring Iran is a terrorist country that was well on their way to make nukes. I don't mind busting the US up, but people ignoring the threat of Iran and pretending they are the victim blows my mind. Proof grooming and conditioning works. |
The regime of Iran is obviously bad, but they can also be victims, and it doesn't make what the US is doing any less bad (also stupid because there doesn't even seem to be a proper strategy). Also, Iran would already have nukes if they wanted, they're not that incompetent to not have reached nuke capability by now if they wanted to - so yes, on their way, but not necessarily wanting to reach the destination.
Protesters in Tel Aviv Demand End to U.S.-Israel War with Iran
Former US diplomat and China expert Chas W. Freeman Jr. joins us to analyze the rapidly escalating conflict between Iran, Israel, and the United States.
In this interview, Freeman breaks down the first eight days of the war, the military and political dynamics shaping the conflict, and what it could mean for the future of the Middle East.
We also discuss the recent statement by Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian announcing a conditional halt to strikes against Gulf countries. Is this a strategic decision by Tehran to isolate Washington and Tel Aviv while opening diplomatic channels with Gulf states?
Topics covered in this interview:
Chas Freeman’s assessment of the first 8 days of the US-Israeli attack on Iran
Iran’s military and political strategy in the war
Why President Pezeshkian announced a conditional halt to strikes on Gulf countries
Are Gulf states independent enough to challenge US pressure?
Is Iran trying to separate Gulf monarchies from US-Israeli strategy?
What this war means for the balance of power in the Middle East
Freeman, a former US Assistant Secretary of Defense official and ambassador, offers a rare insider perspective on the strategic calculations behind the conflict.
Chrkeller said:
Yes there is. Has been for a long time. People want to pin everything on the US by ignoring Iran is a terrorist country that was well on their way to make nukes. I don't mind busting the US up, but people ignoring the threat of Iran and pretending they are the victim blows my mind. Proof grooming and conditioning works. |
That's just a lie. I'm really sick of people saying this. They've been weeks away from nuclear weapons since I was 15 years old. I'm 46.
The sad truth of the matter is this. If it wasn't for my country, the CIA to be more specific, assassinating their democratically elected leader in 1951. We would not have the repressive regime that's in charge of the country. Unfortunately the US and UK thought getting good pricing on oil was more important the rights of Iranians. Instead we fund a nation that illegally developed a nuclear weapons program, thinks the Hannibal Directive is a good idea, and thinks double tap strikes are okay. A nation that thinks planting explosive devices on their targets, waiting for them to be surrounding by civilians, and then detonating the devices makes them the most "moral army' in the world.
@xl-klaudkil I'm not sure what you are on about. The consistent opinion is to be against Russia's attack on Ukraine and against Israel's constant terrorism against it's Palestinian population and regional neighbors. If you have an issue with Russian's assault on the Ukrainians and no issue with Israel's actions, you are just a hypocrite. Like my government for example. A government that has given weapons to Ukraine to help them fend off Russia's war of aggression, while also giving weapons to Israel's for their wars of aggression.
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
ehh yes man, US is always the bad guy precisely hitting terrorist military ammunition camps with minimal civillians losses without occupying foreign land, and Russia is always the good guy turning whole cities into ruins with its civillians burried underneath while occupying land in most of its neighbors |
There is over 12,000 posts in the Russia/Ukraine thread.
| SvennoJ said: |
Probably also necessary if they really want to achieve some regime change, as the council will never elect a person Trump and/or Nethanyahoo will be happy with.
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Darc Requiem said:
That's just a lie. I'm really sick of people saying this. They've been weeks away from nuclear weapons since I was 15 years old. I'm 46. The sad truth of the matter is this. If it wasn't for my country, the CIA to be more specific, assassinating their democratically elected leader in 1951. We would not have the repressive regime that's in charge of the country. Unfortunately the US and UK thought getting good pricing on oil was more important the rights of Iranians. Instead we fund a nation that illegally developed a nuclear weapons program, thinks the Hannibal Directive is a good idea, and thinks double tap strikes are okay. A nation that thinks planting explosive devices on their targets, waiting for them to be surrounding by civilians, and then detonating the devices makes them the most "moral army' in the world. @xl-klaudkil I'm not sure what you are on about. The consistent opinion is to be against Russia's attack on Ukraine and against Israel's constant terrorism against it's Palestinian population and regional neighbors. If you have an issue with Russian's assault on the Ukrainians and no issue with Israel's actions, you are just a hypocrite. Like my government for example. A government that has given weapons to Ukraine to help them fend off Russia's war of aggression, while also giving weapons to Israel's for their wars of aggression. |
No it isnt and is a great example of anti US mentality.
Fact: power plants need 2 to 5% enriched U-235.
Fact: iran has over 400 kg of 60% enriched U-235.
Fact: enriched U-235 above 10%, much less above 50% has one purpose and one purpose only.
And a this information doesn't come from the US, it comes from an international recognized body, IAEA.
And this, for me, proves the point of this thread (and many others) being anti US.
Iran absolutely, irrefutable and undeniably were buildinf nukes, full stop.
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