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Jumpin said:

Much like Vladimir Putin, they're trying to sell this as a "special operation". 

In the opening attack, US and Israeli soldiers murdered at least 51 girls. Not too much news on this is solid yet. Just that there have been explosions in 5 Iranian cities, and explosions across the Middle East. I'm sure there will be a lot more very soon.

What is the motivation for Trump starting this war? They are trying to market this as either "regime change" or "stop nuclear weapons". The true motivation looks to be in the same vein as the US threats to invade Canada and Greenland: to get the media to and public to stop focusing on the accusation and evidence of crimes relating to pedophilia, rape, and conspiracy for murder.

Oh, and Israel has joined in.

Wasn't it because they were at some point like a week or two away from having a functioning Nuclear warhead armed and ready to launch?
And the US is like "this will not be allowed". 

Basically fanatically islamists are not allowed to own nukes.
Esp, if they are threatening to use them (against Isreal).

they refused to stop researching and developement of nuclear weapons, when told by the US, that they are not allowed to own them.
These are leaders and goverments that support terrorism and pay for them, use them. 
Them having a working nuke will not be allowed, the US has been saying that for like 20 years to them.

Their people starve and are poor, but they funnel money into R&D of making nukes.

Imo this is FAFO.

US is a military super power.
If it says they won't allow you to own nukes, stop trying to make one.

Last edited by JRPGfan - 4 days ago

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JRPGfan said:
Jumpin said:

Much like Vladimir Putin, they're trying to sell this as a "special operation". 

In the opening attack, US and Israeli soldiers murdered at least 51 girls. Not too much news on this is solid yet. Just that there have been explosions in 5 Iranian cities, and explosions across the Middle East. I'm sure there will be a lot more very soon.

What is the motivation for Trump starting this war? They are trying to market this as either "regime change" or "stop nuclear weapons". The true motivation looks to be in the same vein as the US threats to invade Canada and Greenland: to get the media to and public to stop focusing on the accusation and evidence of crimes relating to pedophilia, rape, and conspiracy for murder.

Oh, and Israel has joined in.

Wasn't it because they were at some point like a week or two away from having a functioning Nuclear warhead armed and ready to launch?
And the US is like "this will not be allowed". 

Basically fanatically islamists are not allowed to own nukes.
Esp, if they are threatening to use them (against Isreal).

lol who actually believes that bullshit. They've been saying they are a "week or two away" from having nukes for like 15+ years. 

More like Israel has Epstein dirt on Trump and now is the best time to play their card, before Trump potentially loses badly in the mid-term elections and becomes a lame duck president or so the story goes. 

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Soundwave said:
JRPGfan said:

Wasn't it because they were at some point like a week or two away from having a functioning Nuclear warhead armed and ready to launch?
And the US is like "this will not be allowed". 

Basically fanatically islamists are not allowed to own nukes.
Esp, if they are threatening to use them (against Isreal).

lol who actually believes that bullshit. They've been saying they are a "week or two away" from having nukes for like 15+ years. 

More like Israel has Epstein dirt on Trump and now is the best time to play their card, before Trump loses badly in the mid-term elections and becomes a lame duck president. 

That sounds like a conspiracy to me lol.
Isn't it more likely that the US intelligence agencies actually found some proof of some sort, and decided now was the time to act ?

Also, if your telling someone for over 15 years as you said, to stop trying to develope Nukes.... and they don't listen.
Yeah... at some point, either all your talk is worthless.... or you do something about it.

Basically I believe what you call BS.

I don't think the US would start a war for fun or to distract or whatever weird reasoning you think more likely.



JRPGfan said:
Soundwave said:

lol who actually believes that bullshit. They've been saying they are a "week or two away" from having nukes for like 15+ years. 

More like Israel has Epstein dirt on Trump and now is the best time to play their card, before Trump loses badly in the mid-term elections and becomes a lame duck president. 

That sounds like a conspiracy to me lol.
Isn't it more likely that the US intelligence agencies actually found some proof of some sort, and decided now was the time to act ?

Also, if your telling someone for over 15 years as you said, to stop trying to develope Nukes.... and they don't listen.
Yeah... at some point, either all your talk is worthless.... or you do something about it.

All that proves is a countries are largely correct to want nukes, North Korea was correct. You either have them or you get bullied around. 

And no it's not likely US intel had shit, the same US intel that also said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? 



There's too much shit talking in both directions if it comes to Iran and pretty much every video you find about it is in some way propaganda for one or the other side so in this case I will just wait and see. Iran supports Russia to attack Europe so that I can't really be mad if USA attacks these exact people and if it will turn out "well" (which will still mean thousands of deaths in Iran before a possible regime change (and which could also suck)) then it may have been a good decision.

If Iran will turn into even more hell for the population there the next years, then it obviously was a bad decision but yeah, there is so much "it's good or bad for this and that reason" stuff that I really don't have a clue. Fact is that Iranian leaders are bastards and so are Netanyahu and Trump.

Khamenei seems to be dead already. Crazy how bad Iran's air defense is and also crazy how these dudes still sleep in their homes knowing that Israel and USA could always bomb them. 



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Its just americans been americans.
If they dont invade at least one country in the world per 6 months they dont know what to do with themself.
This hes nothing to do with Tramp, its US mentality.
IF you have something US need and they cant take it legally, they will find excuse to force other countries to approve US invading and they will just steal it.
There is no greater evil in the world then US.



I was looking for the source of this quote, don't know if it is the original one, but interesting perspectives in the article nonetheless. 


"To the American people, this leads me to say to open your minds and open your hearts; Iranian people are more like you than the billionaires in this country."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/iranian-americans-share-their-concerns-war-us/

That's dated 2020 btw, Trumps first term.


I’d like the people in the U.S. to understand that Iranian people are very peaceful and they are just ordinary people who seek prosperity and a normal life under normal conditions. If there is any enmity or hostility, it was caused by politics, but it’s not coming from people. Remember Iranians celebrated in the streets after the nuclear deal because they wanted their country to be more open to the international community and they wanted hostilities with the U.S. to end.

The nuclear deal Trump scrapped...


The people of Iran, just like Americans, are diverse in their political perspectives and leanings but what we have heard overwhelmingly from Iranians is a desire to avoid war. My family in particular has expressed fear and stress from the thought of war, and have shared with me a hope for peace.


This attack has nothing to do with 'helping the people of Iran', the only regime change Trump/Netanyahu seek is to install a puppet they can control to prevent China's belt and road initiative to gain traction. It's all about control of the ME and its resources.



JRPGfan said:
Jumpin said:

Much like Vladimir Putin, they're trying to sell this as a "special operation". 

In the opening attack, US and Israeli soldiers murdered at least 51 girls. Not too much news on this is solid yet. Just that there have been explosions in 5 Iranian cities, and explosions across the Middle East. I'm sure there will be a lot more very soon.

What is the motivation for Trump starting this war? They are trying to market this as either "regime change" or "stop nuclear weapons". The true motivation looks to be in the same vein as the US threats to invade Canada and Greenland: to get the media to and public to stop focusing on the accusation and evidence of crimes relating to pedophilia, rape, and conspiracy for murder.

Oh, and Israel has joined in.

Wasn't it because they were at some point like a week or two away from having a functioning Nuclear warhead armed and ready to launch?
And the US is like "this will not be allowed". 

Basically fanatically islamists are not allowed to own nukes.
Esp, if they are threatening to use them (against Isreal).

Basically they refused to stop researching and developement of nuclear weapons, when told by the US, that they are not allowed to own them.
These are leaders and goverments that support terrorism and pay for them, use them. 
Them having a working nuke will not be allowed, the US has been saying that for like 20 years to them.

Their people starve and are poor, but they funnel money into R&D of making nukes.

Imo this is FAFO.

US is a military super power.
If it says they won't allow you to own nukes, stop trying to make one.

You’re in a tiny minority if you’re that credulous toward the last convenient thing the Trump regime says.

And that tiny minority both lacks evidence and is following a line of convenience that contradicts previous lines of convenience on the topic.



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JRPGfan said:
Jumpin said:

Much like Vladimir Putin, they're trying to sell this as a "special operation". 

In the opening attack, US and Israeli soldiers murdered at least 51 girls. Not too much news on this is solid yet. Just that there have been explosions in 5 Iranian cities, and explosions across the Middle East. I'm sure there will be a lot more very soon.

What is the motivation for Trump starting this war? They are trying to market this as either "regime change" or "stop nuclear weapons". The true motivation looks to be in the same vein as the US threats to invade Canada and Greenland: to get the media to and public to stop focusing on the accusation and evidence of crimes relating to pedophilia, rape, and conspiracy for murder.

Oh, and Israel has joined in.

Wasn't it because they were at some point like a week or two away from having a functioning Nuclear warhead armed and ready to launch?
And the US is like "this will not be allowed". 

Basically fanatically islamists are not allowed to own nukes.
Esp, if they are threatening to use them (against Isreal).

Basically they refused to stop researching and developement of nuclear weapons, when told by the US, that they are not allowed to own them.
These are leaders and goverments that support terrorism and pay for them, use them. 
Them having a working nuke will not be allowed, the US has been saying that for like 20 years to them.

Their people starve and are poor, but they funnel money into R&D of making nukes.

Imo this is FAFO.

US is a military super power.
If it says they won't allow you to own nukes, stop trying to make one.

The world had a Nuclear Agreement with Iran, Trump shut it down in his first term.