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Kyuu said:
curl-6 said:

This isn't the PS3 era, Xbox is a non-factor now and PC is expensive, so PS is the go-to place to play AAA games in an affordable and convenient way.

Bringing the likes of Spiderman, God of War, and Horizon hasn't caused any dip in PS5 sales, its still tracking in line with PS4 despite costing more.

This does not disprove that PC may still be affecting sales. I explained this in an earlier post. And things will change in the long term as more gamers realize that PC isn't all that different from consoles anymore.

PC being "expensive" is an exaggeration. It's the fastest growing and most popular platform among young gamers, and most of them are fine with playing on setups weaker than PS5. It also gives you benefits like free online. It's just a fact that PC is growing and people are generally more than fine with its pricing model.

There's no evidence that the growth of PC is harming PS sales though; those people would probably have chosen PC over PS5 anyway regardless of whether God of War or Spiderman is available there.



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Kyuu said:
curl-6 said:

This isn't the PS3 era, Xbox is a non-factor now and PC is expensive, so PS is the go-to place to play AAA games in an affordable and convenient way.

Bringing the likes of Spiderman, God of War, and Horizon hasn't caused any dip in PS5 sales, its still tracking in line with PS4 despite costing more.

This does not disprove that PC may still be affecting sales. I explained this in an earlier post. And things will change in the long term as more gamers realize that PC isn't all that different from consoles anymore.

PC being "expensive" is an exaggeration. It's the fastest growing and most popular platform among young gamers, and most of them are fine with playing on setups weaker than PS5. It also gives you benefits like free online. It's just a fact that PC is growing and people are generally more than fine with its pricing model.

I think it can have an effect in the long run, as yes, Sony would be diluting the ammount of reason of why someone should choose a PS over anything else, but even as PC is a huge platform I still see no actual effect of Sony games on PC happening on PS, which doesn't mean it is not building up little by little until it becomes an actual problem.

The vast majority of people that play on PC are not the kind of gamers that are that much interested in the big AAA players, there are so many people active there now that even that segment is also already huge there, but most people have low-end PC to play cheap or free games that are popular, like LoL, Fortnite and so, and even as yes, those are also playing a lot on PS nowdays as well, I play 2 gachas f2p games on my PS5 daily, the people buying their games are still mostly there in a way bigger sheer quatity and proportion to the install base.

PS firsty party games are still hitting 10M or 15M on PS5 like they started doing on PS4, and those games on PC don't sell a lot. Also, PC has an ingrained culture of buying games on very steep discounts, way more than any other platform out there, so big games still probably make more money on PS5 than on PC, even if the sales numbers are equal or slighty favor PC over PS. So regarding publishers prioritizing PC that can only mean having a good PC version available, not their main focus, at least up until now.

The soon to be biggest game release ever is still not confirmed to come to PC day one or even year one, it's virtually a PS5 exclusive until then, like Sony own games were before a year or too, so as of now, the impact on PS is small at best, but yes, it does have the potential of getting out of hand and turning PS into a similar case to Microsoft, albeit Sony has been handling that situation much better even with some of their best games already on PC.



curl-6 said:
Kyuu said:

This does not disprove that PC may still be affecting sales. I explained this in an earlier post. And things will change in the long term as more gamers realize that PC isn't all that different from consoles anymore.

PC being "expensive" is an exaggeration. It's the fastest growing and most popular platform among young gamers, and most of them are fine with playing on setups weaker than PS5. It also gives you benefits like free online. It's just a fact that PC is growing and people are generally more than fine with its pricing model.

There's no evidence that the growth of PC is harming PS sales though; those people would probably have chosen PC over PS5 anyway regardless of whether God of War or Spiderman is available there.

For now that is my opinion as well, PC has many reasons to be choosen as a gaming platform instead of any other, having a few PS games there that, aside from a live service game in Helldiver 2, have not become steam best selling games, isn't one of the biggest ones, it is a cool bonus for some at best.

It does have the potential of harming PS in the long run, but as of now, I haven't see it happening.

Sony definitely should make decision before such things happen, because after can be too late, so it's a possibility a course change is motivated to avoid it, but even that, if it does happen to be the case Sony is stopping to ship their games to PC, to me has a more reasonable explanation: results expected there were not met, so even the minimal risk it has up until now is not worthy it, at least not as worthy as having full time exclusives back.

I don't remember if it was Kyuu that said it, but I think it was, but Sony strategy seemed to be presenting their gsmes to the PC audience to bring them to PS to play more of them there, instead of nursing a second constant revenue stream on another platform, and if that is indeed the case, and PC players are not moving to PS, than it can also be their are only stopping trying as they would do later as well.

PS also had a lead change, and is having another now where their japanese head that was co-leading with Hulst is now the president and CEO, he seem to have been actually trying change the course of the brand, as we saw him personally present it on Japan with the lower price japanese exclusive PS5, so actual plans could be changing from what they originally were, but even so, the impact I saw from this period on PC has been small at most, minimal IMO.