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Geralt99 said:
You're right. PS5 had great discounts and a bundle that includes GT7 + Astro bot in Brazil and Mexico. 

Unlike NA, PS5 definitely sold better than it did last year in those two regions. 

@trunkswd did you consider this for your Americas estimates?

Sadly Kabum did not "hint" how many PS5 were sold by them here this Black Friday, but if it sold even around 30K (a big drop from the supposed 40 to 45K last year), Amazon + Kabum alone would be sitting at 75 to 80K, without Mercado Livre that should be big too, and considering online only purchases, and we have all the physical stores and other online storefronts to add to that.

Dualsense White + Midnight Black sold together 18K mininum on Amazon too, with some other colors selling around 500 to 1K each and 2K for the grey camo, so around 25K+ for all models I would guess (half the supposed 50K sales for the PS5).

If Americas, counting Brazil, dropped so much, sales must be REALLY disastrous everywhere else or Brazil accounts for 60%+ for all those sales, which doesn't seem likely when Canada and Mexico should be considerably large too, and I would personally believe Canada alone should be pretty much equal or higher than Brazil as the average purchase power there is insanely higher than here on Brazil.



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wtf.... wow.



Called it! That 150euro pricecut did wonders.

Just imagine if sony would keep those prices,takes a loss hit on hardware but pays back with software/ps plus.



 

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BraLoD said:
Geralt99 said:
You're right. PS5 had great discounts and a bundle that includes GT7 + Astro bot in Brazil and Mexico. 

Unlike NA, PS5 definitely sold better than it did last year in those two regions. 

@trunkswd did you consider this for your Americas estimates?

Sadly Kabum did not "hint" how many PS5 were sold by them here this Black Friday, but if it sold even around 30K (a big drop from the supposed 40 to 45K last year), Amazon + Kabum alone would be sitting at 75 to 80K, without Mercado Livre that should be big too, and considering online only purchases, and we have all the physical stores and other online storefronts to add to that.

Dualsense White + Midnight Black sold together 18K mininum on Amazon too, with some other colors selling around 500 to 1K each and 2K for the grey camo, so around 25K+ for all models I would guess (half the supposed 50K sales for the PS5).

If Americas, counting Brazil, dropped so much, sales must be REALLY disastrous everywhere else or Brazil accounts for 60%+ for all those sales, which doesn't seem likely when Canada and Mexico should be considerably large too, and I would personally believe Canada alone should be pretty much equal or higher than Brazil as the average purchase power there is insanely higher than here on Brazil.

Aren’t markets like Brazil counted in the Rest of the World??

because they’re easily 100-150k+ for November 



kazuyamishima said:
BraLoD said:

Sadly Kabum did not "hint" how many PS5 were sold by them here this Black Friday, but if it sold even around 30K (a big drop from the supposed 40 to 45K last year), Amazon + Kabum alone would be sitting at 75 to 80K, without Mercado Livre that should be big too, and considering online only purchases, and we have all the physical stores and other online storefronts to add to that.

Dualsense White + Midnight Black sold together 18K mininum on Amazon too, with some other colors selling around 500 to 1K each and 2K for the grey camo, so around 25K+ for all models I would guess (half the supposed 50K sales for the PS5).

If Americas, counting Brazil, dropped so much, sales must be REALLY disastrous everywhere else or Brazil accounts for 60%+ for all those sales, which doesn't seem likely when Canada and Mexico should be considerably large too, and I would personally believe Canada alone should be pretty much equal or higher than Brazil as the average purchase power there is insanely higher than here on Brazil.

Aren’t markets like Brazil counted in the Rest of the World??

because they’re easily 100-150k+ for November 

Dunno, but if there is a group called Americas Brazil definitely should be there, and not into RoW.

As someone told me USA is not there but Canada is, so that's what I'm replying to, but the site front page display North America as a group and the 3 countries from there, Canada, USA and Mexico, even have their flags on the icon, so I dunno how accurate was the replay I got.

Americas being South America + Central America (so without North America) and Brazil being the majority of those sales would make a lot more sense, but if Americas is letting only USA out, then the 170K number replyed to me will hardly hold true.



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BraLoD said:
kazuyamishima said:

Aren’t markets like Brazil counted in the Rest of the World??

because they’re easily 100-150k+ for November 

Dunno, but if there is a group called Americas Brazil definitely should be there, and not into RoW.

As someone told me USA is not there but Canada is, so that's what I'm replying to, but the site front page display North America as a group and the 3 countries from there, Canada, USA and Mexico, even have their flags on the icon, so I dunno how accurate was the replay I got.

Americas being South America + Central America (so without North America) and Brazil being the majority of those sales would make a lot more sense, but if Americas is letting only USA out, then the 170K number replyed to me will hardly hold true.

Front page shows NA (USA, Canada, Mexico).

The Americas number is 913.3k "the Americas (USA, Canada, & Latin America)"

So current VGChartz estimates has USA+Canada+Mexico at 831.6k and the rest of the Americas at 81.7k.

As you show Amazon alone in Brazil sold over 43k in November it seems unlikely it'd be that low. But I don't know how big of the South American market Brazil accounts for.



If that’s the case, I doubt that Brazil only did around 82k, the Amazon share would have to be more than 50% which is not true.

But at the end of the day, these numbers are just estimates, Sony’s financials will give us the full picture.



Zippy6 said:
BraLoD said:

Dunno, but if there is a group called Americas Brazil definitely should be there, and not into RoW.

As someone told me USA is not there but Canada is, so that's what I'm replying to, but the site front page display North America as a group and the 3 countries from there, Canada, USA and Mexico, even have their flags on the icon, so I dunno how accurate was the replay I got.

Americas being South America + Central America (so without North America) and Brazil being the majority of those sales would make a lot more sense, but if Americas is letting only USA out, then the 170K number replyed to me will hardly hold true.

Front page shows NA (USA, Canada, Mexico).

The Americas number is 913.3k "the Americas (USA, Canada, & Latin America)"

So current VGChartz estimates has USA+Canada+Mexico at 831.6k and the rest of the Americas at 81.7k.

As you show Amazon alone in Brazil sold over 43k in November it seems unlikely it'd be that low. But I don't know how big of the South American market Brazil accounts for.

Unless Amazon tracking is way off, or it's actually considering way more than just the last 30 days or so (it states "no mês passado" which translates to "during last month"), there is no way the whole of South + Central America only sold 81.7K.

Another single storefront alone, Kabum, sold around 40K PS5 last year during Black Friday (which can be considered the whole week or even month here) as well, so even if dropped considerably to like 30K this year, just Amazon + Kabum sales can already reach that 81.7K figure.

IMO Brazil alone will be sitting comfortably over 100K for November, and sales for consumers here even more as AliExpress and Shopee both had a lot of tracking on promotion and coupons groups and the PS5 is always one of the most popular picks during this time there too, but some of the inventory shipping here would be coming from Asian countries like China, even as nowdays those sites also hold quite a lot of vendor selling stock that are already sitting in Brazil, but can come from a lot of different regions of the world, which I guess was always a big problem to consider what counts as a sale from Brazil or not, for all those sales to people here. Sites like Amazon and Kabum would be nearly 100% brazillian official sales on Brazil, tho.