JRPGfan said:
So lets assume this like ~25% weaker than the PS5 gpu in terms of gpu compute... and has less ram, slower ram, less memory bandwidth. It has a more powerful CPU.
So its going to run games at lower resolutions / texture quality, than a PS5, but perphaps at higher FPS (at lower settings/resolutions).
If it can stay under or equal to the price of a PS5... do you guys think there is a market for it? (ei. a 1080p machine for most things).
*edit: I wish they would have gone with a AMD architecture that could run FSR4.
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GPU probably isn't that much weaker. It's about 8.6TF (after removing the doubling from dual-issue of RDNA3) which directly compared would be ~17% less, but being RDNA3 vs RDNA2 the difference should be less than that.
Also I'm not sure about the ram situation. PS5 has 16gb to share between system and vram. Steam Machine has 16gb System and 8gb VRAM, so it has more ram overall. How often is PS5 using more than half of it's 16gb for VRAM? No clue, but PS5 also reserves a good chunk of that 16GB for the OS too, which for the Steam Machine mostly the background OS is going to use the 16gb System Ram. The Steam Machine having 8gb VRAM may not be a disadvantage against the PS5. However software optimisation for specific hardware might bring that into play.
It can run FSR4 unofficially with some tinkering. Valve are hoping AMD will add official FSR4 support for it. "FSR 4 support has not yet been formally announced for RDNA 3 GPUs, and Valve representatives had nothing to add to that beyond their own hopes that Steam Machine will indeed receive driver-level FSR 4 support from AMD."
JRPGfan said:
What do you guys think this will retail at?
449$ ? 499$ ? for the steam machine.... somewhere around there, surely they didn't break the bank on this design or Bill of materials for it.
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With it having 24gb total memory and a discrete gpu/cpu instead of an APU... I think $499 for the 512gb model is really the best that can be hoped for. If they go less than that they're definitely losing money. It will cost more than the steam deck to produce and they are still selling the Steam Deck OLED 512gb for $549.
I would say Valve won't subsidise it, but who knows. They don't really need to worry about it being an open platform and software sales going elsewhere, because who is going to buy this and not use steam? Even if someone decides to install Windows on it they're 90%+ going to still be using steam to buy games. So if they're really intent on pushing this hard and don't care about losing money on the hardware maybe they can go lower than $499. But that's not really what I expect.