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Chrkeller said:
sc94597 said:

I think if we contextualize it to what usually happens to games that restart development (scores in the (4-7)/10 range, often broken) a good but not great Metroid Prime 4 is fine. 

The best we probably could have realistically hoped for (despite many of us hyping ourselves up for more) was a Doom (2016) situation. That game averaged around 85% on Metacritic, depending on platform, after Doom 4's cancellation. 

Prime 4 turned out to be a good, but not great game. That's similar to what happened with Final Fantasy XV (after restarting development from Versus XIII) and Prey (2017.) Both are games with their fans who enjoyed them a lot, and others who while enjoying the games felt like there was lost potential.  

A worst-case scenario would've been a Duke Nukem Forever or Too Human. Actually bad and mediocre games, respectively, because of their rough development cycles.  

Edit: 

Who knows, maybe Prime 5 will be to Prime 4, what FF XVI was to XV.

I suspect we will see Prime 5, as all signs are pointing toward Prime 4 selling well enough to break even cost-wise, and Nintendo likes to re-use templates to release sequels. 

I hope not.  FF16 was utterly trash.  The entire middle portion of the game was dreadfully boring.  My least favorite FF game 

I think he's referring to FF15, not 16.

EDIT: Nvm, that'll teach me to post before my morning coffee lmao

Last edited by curl-6 - on 23 December 2025

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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

I hope not.  FF16 was utterly trash.  The entire middle portion of the game was dreadfully boring.  My least favorite FF game 

I think he's referring to FF15, not 16.

He said "what FF16 was to FF15".

... Which honestly is a strange statement anyway, I remember reception to FF16 being just about as divisive if anything. 



curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

I hope not.  FF16 was utterly trash.  The entire middle portion of the game was dreadfully boring.  My least favorite FF game 

I think he's referring to FF15, not 16.

EDIT: Nvm, that'll teach me to post before my morning coffee lmao

Lol, no worries, I'm the same.  Maybe he will clarify, because I think we are all confused.



“Consoles are great… if you like paying extra for features PCs had in 2005.”

On a side note, I swear I was going to delete Prime 4.. glad I settled down and took VG's advice and played it with different expectations, the game is quite good.



“Consoles are great… if you like paying extra for features PCs had in 2005.”
Chrkeller said:
sc94597 said:

I think if we contextualize it to what usually happens to games that restart development (scores in the (4-7)/10 range, often broken) a good but not great Metroid Prime 4 is fine. 

The best we probably could have realistically hoped for (despite many of us hyping ourselves up for more) was a Doom (2016) situation. That game averaged around 85% on Metacritic, depending on platform, after Doom 4's cancellation. 

Prime 4 turned out to be a good, but not great game. That's similar to what happened with Final Fantasy XV (after restarting development from Versus XIII) and Prey (2017.) Both are games with their fans who enjoyed them a lot, and others who while enjoying the games felt like there was lost potential.  

A worst-case scenario would've been a Duke Nukem Forever or Too Human. Actually bad and mediocre games, respectively, because of their rough development cycles.  

Edit: 

Who knows, maybe Prime 5 will be to Prime 4, what FF XVI was to XV.

I suspect we will see Prime 5, as all signs are pointing toward Prime 4 selling well enough to break even cost-wise, and Nintendo likes to re-use templates to release sequels. 

I hope not.  FF16 was utterly trash.  The entire middle portion of the game was dreadfully boring.  My least favorite FF game 

I actually haven't played 16 yet. It is in my backlog. Was just going off of review scores and general sentiments when the two are compared online. FFXVI has an 87 critic and 8.4 user score compared to FFXV's 81 Critic and 7.4 user score. So it seems less divisive than XV, even if it is still not as excellent as the older games. 

The general sentiment I have seen online has also been that despite the game having minimal RPG elements (like FFXV) it felt like a more complete, consistent package.

Edit: The game also has 92% (on PS5) of its reviews as positive vs. XV's 82% (on PS4) of reviews as positive. 

Last edited by sc94597 - on 23 December 2025

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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
curl-6 said:

I think he's referring to FF15, not 16.

He said "what FF16 was to FF15".

... Which honestly is a strange statement anyway, I remember reception to FF16 being just about as divisive if anything. 

I'd say XV was divisive. I loved it, some people hated it, and some people were ambivalent. For me it's a good game there to be played but it's hidden behind it's confusing story and incomplete game design. It's basically a wasted potential. Moreso, there is no apparent consensus about what are the most jarring issues with the game, because they hit very differently to anyone  

XVI seems to be a game that was simply lukewarm. It screamed "how to make the most milquetoast action game ever?" Probably a response to the divise, yet not risky-averse, FF XV

People already knew it was going to be a pseudo Devil May Cry when they got to play it, so the issue was the linear level design, boring unnecessary side quests, and total lack of depth in combat

My memory was initial reception to the playable demo was good because the story and presentation were great, but after just a few hours you can noticed how shallow the game actually is and it's when the game falls apart 



Do we still not have any sales info outside of those initial Japan reports? Not exactly promising to me if they’re so radio silent on it..



HyrulianScrolls said:

Do we still not have any sales info outside of those initial Japan reports? Not exactly promising to me if they’re so radio silent on it..

It's pretty normal actually to not get confirmed sales until a quarterly report. So far this is the preliminary information we have. 



HyrulianScrolls said:

Do we still not have any sales info outside of those initial Japan reports? Not exactly promising to me if they’re so radio silent on it..

I don't think Nintendo ever really comment on sales outside of their quarterly reports, so we were never going to get sales numbers for this until ... I think start of February? 



Yeah Nintendo typically only announce sales data outside of their quarterly reports when they have a huge, huge hit like Pokémon or TOTK or something like that which breaks records or just has a massive launch.

Metroid is niche, so they're not gonna brag about say 1 million sales.