I understand that, trust me, but the problem is how they present Right wing as bad and compare them to nazi while all of Left wing are just "naive" good people. Both of them are equally bad. There is no any good in there. I mean Tramp is POS but he won against Clinton and Harris, two woman despite all accusations about sexual assault. If that doesnt tell you how awful human being these two are, nothing will.

The thing in US that surprise me the most is that Americans hate each other just because they support different parties, that is unbelievable to me. You practically hate your fellow american just because he/she support different evil party then the evil party you support.

Some people dont want to admit that, like this guy Ryuu. Its even hard to me to understand him because he is from Europe, so he should have neutral view like me witch he obviously dont have. I mean he said that right win support Ukraine war, while Left are just "naive", ignoring the fact that war started right before US elections and the fact that US during Democrats reign spend Billions and Billions on Ukraine.

Again my point all this time is that all political parties in all parts of the world are evil, there is no good.

Left but it’s not like I take a stance on things looking at a left-right spectrum, here is my philosophy:

Economically-I support policies that I believe help make life better for the working/middle class rather than stuffing the pockets of the rich.

Socially-I support policies that promote equality and let people be and do want they want as long as they aren’t doing harm to others.

International-I support policies that attempt to bring about global stability, reduce conflict and promote peace.


Being from the United States, there are only two viable parties and while the Democratic Party is far from perfect on all these things, the Republican Party is absolutely trash.

One would think with 2x the population of the US not all top 7 tech companies would be from the US.  

Funny how that works.  

I stand by my stance.  Born in the US, lived in Europe and my love for the US simply grew.  More opportunity.  

I simply have no interest in trading opportunity for social nets I don't need that require 40% income tax plus 20% VAT. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization

Edit

If the issue is verbiage I'm happy to use "leftist social policies" instead of socialism.  But regardless of terminology, my stance stands. 

Been there, done that and no thanks. 

To each their own.  

Right Wing.

At least here in Brazil, the Left Wing doesn't seems to work.

Not to turn this into a Brazilian politics thread, but doesn't seem to work? How, exactly, if you care to elaborate? As much as I strongly dislike many aspects of the current left-wing government and the previous left-wing governments, the left-wing is kind of the only part of the Brazilian political spectrum that is doing *anything* for Brazil and for Brazilian people. Not to mention the huge advancements in basic human rights—scholarization, housing, sewage, etc.—pushed by the left-wing government in the early 2000s. The right-wing is currently divided between people trying to "save" the ultra-rich from slightly higher taxes, people trying to allow a takeover of the Brazilian government by foreign private companies, and people trying to dismantle the three branches of government to save a looney autocrat from a prison sentence he deserves. FHC was the last competent right-wing president, and his term ended over 20 years ago.

I can't see a rational reason to say what you did about Brazil in 2025, unless you're either ultra-rich (I'm talking 7-figure income, 0.01%, gets-away-with-anything kind of rich) or part of the Bolsonaro family.

If you, personally, not needing social safety nets is a reason for you to think they're useless, then yeah, you're right-wing. It also makes me think you're a horrible person. You know, as a society, we're kind of supposed to care for everyone living in that society, not just ourselves. I think that wild individualism is the real driver of right-wing politics. You can make someone destroy everyone around them if you convince them that they will personally benefit from it.

I'd rather live somewhere with no billionaires but a solid safety net than somewhere where billionaires thrive but people need to choose between going into crippling debt to get an education or live their entire lives struggling to pay for their next meal. If you've been convinced that you should give up on every right as a citizen and as a worker for the tending-towards-zero chance of becoming a billionaire, then you're as naïve as anyone.

Ever thought that people who identify as left-wing or right-wing have weighed up the pros and cons, and just use those classifications as a quicker way to organize themselves and to find like-minded people? Being left-wing doesn't mean I'll agree with everything every left-wing person says. In fact, I'll probably have a lot more in common with a centre-right socially liberal person than with a left-wing anarcho-communist, for example.

I don't think being a centrist is a virtue—from my experience, it's more commonly just a label that people who think they're superior use to appear intellectual and politically aware. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but maybe think of being in the middle as just as much of a position as being left-wing or right-wing. None of those imply that you don't weigh up the pros and cons on every argument, they just represent which side you tend to agree with more.

I used to be something of a centralists, but as time went by the right kept making me lean more to the left.

I'm Right Wing, have been pretty much all my life.

I get a kick out of people wasting their time trying to argue with others about their core beliefs which ultimately goes nowhere.

Be proud of yourself and whatever your beliefs are and ignore anyone who tries to change your mind.

Thirding this.

Thirding? Anyway, same here for me. Though in my experience you should always vote a tad more extreme because you’ll always end up with a watered down version of whatever’s voted in .