S.Peelman on 02 September 2025
| Qwark said: Depends on the reference country, in Netherlands center, so that would be very legt leaning in US. However it is right leaning in some other European countries. |
| Tober said: Same here. Reference point would matter. I'm center right in the Netherlands, this would mean liberal in most countries. |
Thirding this.
Thirding? Anyway, same here for me. Though in my experience you should always vote a tad more extreme because you’ll always end up with a watered down version of whatever’s voted in 
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