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the2real4mafol said:
Chrkeller said:

I spent most of my time in the United Kingdom.  While living abroad I spent time at France, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Germany, Austria and croatia.  

I stand by my original statement.  Europe made me appreciate and love the US more.  I came back more right then when I left.  

Sorry but you come across as quite ignorant. The UK is NOT socialist, until last year we had a Conservative government that was truly awful, incompetent and corrupt and worst of all still refuses to learn from its mistakes. Sadly you didn't see the UK in a good place and we have Labour again now but they are woefully incompetent too. I'm firmly left wing and would feel completely unrepresented if it wasn't for Corbyn plus the Green Party.

We are in sharp decline after 15 years of austerity and neglect, literally nothing works properly here anymore and the cost of living is a major problem. Not even the NHS can be described as socialist, it provides what any rational country provides when we need it, healthcare paid via taxes. Even most countries with insurance systems, ensure everyone has access. The US is the outlier, a shame you didn't realise that after travelling so much.

Mainland Europe is also not socialist, some countries are social democratic at best (basically where Britain was up till the 80s) and others are more traditionalist and conservative in nature especially in the east but again they try to ensure people don't go without the basics in terms of housing, healthcare, transport, some basic workers rights, welfare etc. But I guess with the current American administration, every other country in the world is a leftist hellhole with a senile nutter like Trump in charge, let alone Musk and Vance.

Maybe try not to generalise an entire continent with more twice the population of the USA. Europe is 40+ separate countries with vastly different cultures and heritage.

One would think with 2x the population of the US not all top 7 tech companies would be from the US.  

Funny how that works.  

I stand by my stance.  Born in the US, lived in Europe and my love for the US simply grew.  More opportunity.  

I simply have no interest in trading opportunity for social nets I don't need that require 40% income tax plus 20% VAT. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization

Edit

If the issue is verbiage I'm happy to use "leftist social policies" instead of socialism.  But regardless of terminology, my stance stands. 

Been there, done that and no thanks. 

To each their own.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 02 September 2025

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