Stuff like this.  You'd see that kind of shirt in Austin, TX or say San Franscisco, CA where the environment is very liberal and LGBTQ+ toleration is very important.  But i still think that if the big 3 can't stomach these kinds of jokes, this sort of ribbing, then they are too powerful.  If they have too big of a hold on the populace then they aren't humble enough and they should be mocked imho.  I applaud this woman, hope she finds a pretty lady to scissor all night with.  

Threatened for stoning? WTF.  That's evil.  These societies have some amount of evil and need more toleration, as well as democracy.  When US backed leader was in Iran, this islamic extremism wouldnt fly and women could wear western clothes if they wanted.  They didn't have to have their husband or family accompany them if they ran an errand or whatever.  They weren't 2nd class citizens.  Extreme islam is the worst thing in the world if you're gay or a woman.  

And anybody that defends this kind of thing or minimizes it is an asshole.  Before some of y'all try to dismiss it, there is a legit british newspaper that wrote an editorial on the situation, so here ya'll go:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/08/11/woman-morocco-arrested-allah-is-lesbian-shirt-blasphemy/

You won't have terrorism, you won't have misogyny, and you won't have any kind of extremism in an environment where people  can take a joke.  They need criticism and invectives and mocking, until the hardliners retreat.  This happened slowly with christianity, but islam also needs a similar process of liberalization to happen.  They basically threatened her for being a vocal lesbian.  Fvck those assholes.  

Islam waged war on the west (formerly known as christendom) since its inception. It is not a bug, it is a feature. It is an effective manipulation tactic to name "opression", "genocide", "inequality" as reasons for their terror. But this is conveniently leaving out the opression, genocide, slavery and brutality coming from islam towards the west. They managed to conquer 3/4 of the western world (North Africa and the Middle East - the most important 3/4 mind you) permanently by comitting all the atrocities the west is accused of comitting against them and creating terrorism. Funny though how this does not work the other way around and christian terrorism is not in fact a big problem in the muslim world.
The califate fell some 120 years ago. Trust the imams. Trust the big representatives of islam when they tell you that what islam was doing since its inception and keeps doing to this day is waging war on the infidels. They had a rich land full of learning and prosperity, provided to them by way of the sword. And they destroyed it with their horrid ideology. They are a conquering people. And right now they want to conquer the rest of christendom, by means of slow, unarmed invasion, using the wests suicidal empathy against it. Fuled by propaganda along the lines of "but this is the wests fault so we deserve all the rape, violent crime and economic deprivation" -Muslim terrorism is not just bad in its death toll (miniscule compared to car accidents), but as a symptom of invasion and an intimidation tactic to force the west into submission (that is what the word "islam" truly meansl).

Look at Lebanon. Look at Persia. Look at all the other former christian countries. Look at the rise in Germanys and Swedens violent crime rates, not just the terror attacks. If things keep progressing the way they do, in two generations the west can kiss its culture, high trust societies, democracy, religious freedom and prosperity goodby.

(Just a disclaimer - obiously I am not saying that every or even most migrants come to the west with ill intent. They come because of the incentives - housing, food, healthcare. The west is obviously betrayed by its political class. But with all these migrants do come exactly the things I just mentioned - higher violent crime rates, more rapes, less trust,... and eventually, with a muslim majority in (almost) any given country, some flavour of sharia law, loss of womens rights, theocracy, economic downfall, incest, child molestation and mistreatment akin to torture in horrid rates, etc., etc.)

PS: this is a threat about all terrorism in Europe. But I concentrated soley on muslim terrorism, since it is by far the biggest problem, if we want to believe the figures from all western countries I looked at, where the big majority of the workload of different secret services comes from muslim terror.

The thing is, Islam actually was for most of it's history more liberal than Christianity. There's a reason why the leaders in Constantinople said they'd rather wear a Turkish fez than a bishop's mitre: They were much more welcoming to people of other churches and religions than Christianity was at the time. Remember that Europe fought several wars, especially the 30 year's war, just over what territories and regions would be catholic or protestant.

It's only with the decline of the Ottoman empire and their actions during WW1, where they tried to frame the war as a religious conflict in hopes that Muslims in French, British and Italian colonies would rise up against their colonizers (hint: they not just didn't, but it backfired as it soon after launched the great Arab revolt against the Ottomans, especially after the Ottomans grabbed the Idiot Ball with both hands and bombarded Mecca, absolutely infuriating most Arab Muslims) and the power vacuum they left behind, leading to much more fundamentalist tendencies to gain power in the Middle East. I mean, just look at this mess of a map at the armistice with the Ottoman Empire at the end of WW1: It has enough Border Gore to qualify as a HOI4 map after a war:

Then came the Balfour Declaration and the Sykes-Picot Agreement, where France and the UK grabbed that same Villain Ball tightly and pretty much renegued on their promises and took much of the lands for themselves, further fueling the descent into a kind of fundamentalist nationalism due to the resentment of western culture from these actions.

So yeah, if the West hadn't fucked them up so badly after promising them freedom, I'm fairly sure Muslim fundamentalism would never have gotten nearly as far as it did. The actions of Arab dictators who tried to enforce secularism like Saddam Hussein or the Iranian Shah being supported by the West didn't help matters, either. Without these, I believe the vast majority of Muslims, Christians and their denominations plus non-religious people would all be much more liberal in this regard and consider religion a purely private matter.

Try again

Now compare Muslim terrorism to all the deaths Western colonization and imperialism has caused. Estimated over 3 million deaths just from the 9/11 wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. 

The CIA put an end to democratic government in Iran in the 1953 coup which led to the Iranian revolution in 1979 which swung the country into the grip of religious leaders. 

UK/France carved up the ME after WW1 and forced arbitrary states on the region which was used to living together without borders. This put different groups together in states with 1 group given all the power to dominate the rest. Hence civil war in Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, etc.

USA installed Saddam Hussein and backed Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war while they knew full well Iraq was gassing Iran and the kurds in the Iran-Iraq war. 

USA perpetrates Christian/Zionist terrorism all over the world, they just don't say it out loud... Or hide behind "it's all for money" ? 
Well they do say it out loud nowadays, Mike Huckabee for example, yet Biden was also an outspoken Zionist.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/05/12/joe-biden-a-proud-zionist-since-1973_6671216_4.html


Loss of women's rights, look at Trump's America. 
https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/why-young-men-are-turning-against-feminism/

That has nothing to do with Islam, plus Christianity likes to put down women all by itself.

What is Europe doing wrong that violent crime rates are spiking?

There's plenty Muslim immigrants in Canada as well, 10% of the GTA is now Muslim. But I don't hear anything alarming about rising crime rates. Violent crime rates are back up to 2003 levels after reaching a minimum in 2014, but it's mostly socioeconomic factors contributing to the rise.


As for hate crimes:

https://rcmp.ca/en/corporate-information/publications-and-manuals/hate-crimes-and-incidents-canada

The majority of hate crimes targeting a religion reported by police in 2023 were directed at the Jewish (70%) and Muslim (16%) populations.

Between 2015 and 2022, the most common hate crime motivation type was based on hatred of:

• race/ethnicity (7,204 incidents, representing 45% of police-reported hate crimes)
• religion (4,455 incidents, representing 28% of police-reported hate crimes)
• sexual orientation (1,653 incidents, representing 10% of police-reported hate crimes)
• sex/gender (289 incidents, representing 1.8% of police-reported hate crimes)
• other motivations (710 incidents, representing 4.4% of police-reported hate crimes; this category includes mental or physical disability, language, age and other similar factors – for example, occupation or political beliefs)

hate crime victimization by religion

• Jewish population experienced the highest levels of police-reported hate crime victimization (1,856 incidents or 16% of all hate crimes reported to police between 2017 and 2021)
• Muslim population (925 incidents or 7.8% of all hate crimes reported to police between 2017 and 2021)
• Catholic population (332 incidents or 2.8% of all hate crimes reported to police between 2017 and 2021)
• population that specified “Other” religions (Sikh, Hindu, and Buddhist, representing 270 incidents or 2.3% of all hate crimes reported to police between 2017 and 2021)
• population that indicated “Religion Not Specified” (143 incidents or 1.2% of hate crimes reported to police between 2017 and 2021)

Hate crime motivated by a hatred of race/ethnicity between 2015 and 2022. Over this period, there was a staggering 194% increase, some of which is likely related to rising social polarization created by the COVID-19 pandemic, alongside the rise in populist politics, xenophobia, and racist rhetoric that portrays members of racialized and religious minority communities as threats to community safety and national security. In 2020 alone, hate crime motivated by race/ethnicity accounted for 62% of all hate crimes reported to police in Canada.

Between 2017 and 2021, Canada’s Black population experienced the highest levels of police-reported hate crime victimization (2,279 incidents representing 19% of all hate crimes reported to police), followed by Canada’s:

• East or Southeast Asian population (756 incidents representing 6.4% of all hate crimes reported to police)
• South Asian population (531 incidents representing 4.5% of all hate crimes reported to police)
• Arab or West Asian population (670 incidents representing 5.7% of all hate crimes reported to police)
• Indigenous peoples (254 incidents representing 2.1% of all hate crimes reported to police)
• White population (274 incidents representing 2.3% of all hate crimes reported to police)
• population from “Other” racial/ethnic backgrounds (Latin American, South American, and intersectional hate crimes that target more than one race or ethnic group; these accounted for 891 incidents representing 7.5% of all hate crimes reported to police)

Between 2015 and 2021, police-reported hate crime motivated by hatred of sexual orientation increased by 150%. In 2020 alone, hate crime targeting sexual orientation represented 10% of the total number of police-reported hate crimes in Canada (Statistics Canada)

• 77% of police-reported hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation targeted lesbian and gay individuals
• 11% of police-reported hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation targeted non-heterosexuals – for example, pansexual and asexual individuals
• 2% of police-reported hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation targeted bisexual individuals ^{footnote 17}

Research also shows that victims of hate crime motivated by sexual orientation:

• tend to be young and male ^{footnote 17}
• are three times more likely than other victims of hate to be subject to serious violence
• generally experience greater physical injury (due to the more violent nature of their victimization experiences)

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/jr/vhci-dvch/pdf/Victims-of-Hate-Crime-Infographic-Pamphlet-en.pdf




Now for the hard part, motives and perpetators

Hate crime offending: characteristics of accused persons

Typology of hate crime offenders

Research has identified four types of hate crime offenders: thrill-seeking, reactive, retaliatory, and mission. ^{footnote 20} This typology can help police and other practitioners understand the different motivations and characteristics of “typical” hate crime offenders. It is important to note that the four offender types described below are not necessarily mutually exclusive; the lines between categories sometimes overlap or blur, and accused persons may progress from one type to another over time.

Thrill-seeking

• Youth, often teenagers
• Motives include: thrill, excitement, bragging rights
• Commission of crime is often outside of the offender’s neighbourhood
• Victim is selected by being a part of a vulnerable population
• Approximately 60% of hate crime incidents ^{footnote 21}

Reactive

• Often have no criminal record
• Motives include: perceived threats to their way of life, privileges, rights, community, place of work
• Commission of the crime can occur in the offender’s neighbourhood
• Victim is selected by being perceived as a part of the above threats
• Approximately 25% of hate crime incidents ^{footnote 21}

Retaliatory

• Motives include: revenge against innocent members of the group perceived to be responsible for a previous hate crime or act of terrorism/violent extremism; victims are targeted solely because of their identity, and as a form of vicarious retribution.
• Can involve group-offending
• Can prompt stereotypes, stigma and high levels of fear in affected communities
• Approximately 10% of hate crime incidents ^{footnote 21}

Mission

• Offender has psychological issues
• Often holds a strong prejudice against a group and/or individual that is targeted and intends to use extreme violence to eliminate the perceived threat
• Motives include: a perceived higher order, desire for retaliation to restore injustice
• No distinguishable triggers
• The smallest number of hate crime incidents

Hate groups:

Some researchers have tried to estimate the number of hate groups in Canada, though estimates vary. Some research has suggested that, by the mid-2010s, there were more than 100 active organized hate groups in Canada. ^{footnote 27 footnote 28} By 2021, estimates ranged from 70-100 to approximately 300 such groups, though discrepancies across these more recent estimates are likely and largely a function of differences in the way researchers count hate groups. ^{footnote 29} Notwithstanding these differences, there appears to be a general consensus that the number of hate groups in Canada has risen in recent years, likely as a consequence of:

• the rise of populist politics and the normalization of racist and incendiary political rhetoric that scapegoats racialized and religious minority groups for a host of community safety and national security issues. Many of the groups stereotyped by this rhetoric have experienced significant spikes in hate crime victimization. In other words, hate crime victimization against certain segments of the population has been shown to increase in the wake of incendiary rhetoric that portrays them as threats to community safety and national security. ^{footnote 30}
• frustration over the COVID-19 pandemic and related government policies; widespread attributions of blame involving people of Asian background prompted increased incidents of anti-Asian racism, discrimination and violence (for a broader discussion of the pandemic’s impact on hate crime, please see: https://capitalcurrent.ca/how-canadas-far-right-is-surging-amid-the-pandemic/)
• ISIS-inspired attacks in North America and Europe have inspired hate crimes against Muslims around the world. Hate crimes perpetrated in response to such attacks illustrate the relationship that sometimes exists between hate crime and violent extremism, wherein hate crimes are intended to serve as a form of vicarious retribution against innocent members of the broader Muslim community (For more information, please see Is There a Relationship Between Hate Crime and Violent Extremism).
• successive migrant/refugee crises that expose asylum seekers and migrants to various forms of violence and harassment stemming from problematic narratives asserting that certain migrant and refugee groups are ‘cheating the asylum system’, ‘draining the welfare system’, and/or ‘stealing Canadian jobs’

These and other events have served as a catalyst for people with particular worldviews to come together and mobilize against these and other perceived threats. The internet has facilitated such connections and provided a medium through which hate groups can instantly disseminate propaganda to a broad audience, recruit new members and organize protests and other group activities. ^{footnote 32} It is this connectivity that makes transnational communication between hate groups possible; research shows that hate groups in one nation can and do learn from and inspire those in other nations, which can complicate enforcement efforts on the part of police and partner agencies. ^{footnote 33}

In this broader context, hate groups in Canada appear to have grown in both size and number. Maintaining ‘traditional’ white culture and heritage is among the core goals of these groups, which are typically grounded in white supremacist ideology and espouse a host of beliefs including antisemitic and Islamophobic sentiment, though many groups also position themselves against immigrants, women, 2SLGBTQI+ individuals and other racialized and religious minority groups.

Blame Islam....

Why do people join hate groups?

Research suggests that people join hate groups for a host of reasons, including but not limited to holding hateful views about certain segments of the population. ^{footnote 37} More specifically, people join hate groups due to:

• feelings of alienation and powerlessness
• feelings of loneliness; a desire for friendship and a sense of belonging
• a search for meaning and identity
• fear of those that are different and/or fear that one’s social group is ‘under threat’ due to immigration and demographic change
• anger and frustration
• a need to reaffirm a sense of dominance and privilege
• a tendency toward rigid ‘black and white’ thinking (that is, lack of critical thinking capacity)
• traumatic childhood experiences (American research found that 45% of former hate group members reported being the victim of childhood physical abuse, while 20% reported being the victim of childhood sexual abuse)
• family disruption in childhood, including divorce, parental incarceration or substance abuse on the part of one or both parents

In short, hate groups are thought to offer members a sense of identity, meaning and personal significance based on their affiliation with the group. Research shows that hate groups remain “overwhelmingly white and male”;

Canada Has a White Supremacist Problem:

• https://www.ips-journal.eu/topics/foreign-and-security-policy/canada-has-a-white-supremacist-problem-4757/

Canada’s Silent Pandemic: Far Right Hate Groups:

• https://mjps.ssmu.ca/2020/07/27/canadas-silent-pandemic-far-right-hate-groups/

Hate Groups Are Recruiting Video Gamers:

• https://www.npr.org/2018/11/05/660642531/right-wing-hate-groups-are-recruiting-video-gamers

I'll leave this here, sums it all up. Stop re-acting emotionally, think for yourself. The internet is by far the greater danger taking over our lives and stifling critical thinking, pitting everyone against each other in reactionary black and white 'thinking' stimulated by echo chambers.

Why Critical Thinking Is Disappearing – The Rise of Collective Stupidity

In a world overflowing with opinions, algorithms, and noise — why is clear thinking vanishing? This video uncovers the uncomfortable truth behind the disappearance of critical thinking and the rise of what philosophers now call collective stupidity — a condition where we stop questioning, start conforming, and lose our capacity for truth without even realizing it.

You directly and openly support a British Government prescribed terrorist organisation in Palestine Action so why are you posting in a thread about the problems of terrorism in the west? You are clearly here to deny and downplay all forms of terrorism. You clearly don't care about terrorism in the west because if you did you wouldn't be supporting our UK prescribed terrorist organisations. I know you think that the Prescription of PA is just a form of government overreach on the public but it isn't, they were vandalizing private property and government owned property and they were getting increasingly reckless with their actions. Something had to be done about them so the government did something. 

Israel is literally doing a genocide. They are literally supported by the world's super power and given as many weapons as they need. Israel is a colonial project. It has been since the outset. It attacks whomever it wants and gets away with it. It bombed iran. It attacks Syria and Lebanon. It is starving all palestinians in Gaza and stealing more and more land in the west bank. Israel is doing state terrorism.

What people call "terrorism" is also dependent on their mindset. Like they call far right white attackers "lone wolves" even though they subscribe to white supremacist and nazi ideology but don't call it "lone wolf" when brown people do it. They don't call what western states do "terrorism." Terrorism is a loaded, biased word that isn't applied uniformly.

Im sorry but this is wrong and ignorant on so many levels. First of all, French aren't "welcoming to other people." There are a lot of systemic issues in France and a lot of systemic racism. They restrict people from wearing clothes that they want to wear. Their policies force minorities into ghettos. That creates issues and results in instability and poverty, which is a hotbed for reactionary thinking. It is why the minorities in france are more conservative.  Cause france isn't accepting. That leads to people like the ones that attacked Charlie hebdo thinking its ok to kill the satirists. 

It isn't something innate to Muslims. That is a very islamophobic thing to say. It is more about reactionary and conservative thinking.  There are hundreds of millions,  if not billions of Muslims who wouldn't kill anyone for insulting their religion and being condescending to them.

The entire issue is due to the intolerance in French society.  And france still wants to be a colonial empire the way it behaves. What "liberalizes" people isn't mocking them, its multiculturalism, stability, safety. Its acceptance. To talk about Muslims this way is rooted in racism, bigotry and Islamophobia. Muslims are humans and behave in human ways. Muslims exist in a multitude and include many cultures and behaviors and type sof people. I don't understand this weird orientalism about how you portray Muslims. That sort of ostracisation and otherism leads to thr conditions that make it ripe for terrorism to flourish. 

It is why terrorism is higher in poorer, more unstable and divided societies. Reactionary and bigoted thinking plus otherism leads to terrorism flourishing 

Im sorry but your view of islam and muslims is very ignorant and is based on a weird kind of islamophobic orientalism. You don't even know shit about the community. And if your statement that islam is special somehow was true, or that mocking works, it would bare fruit. Christians and jews are mocked a lot. We know the crazy evangelicals exist. And the zionists and kahanists doing genocide. Hindutva exists in india. Look at the genocides done by sinhalese buddhists in sri lanka or the buddhists in burma.  Atheists aren't exempt from any of that either. 

State oppression and violence are a far bigger danger to humanity than whatever is called terrorism.  Cause they call freedom fighters from oppressed groups terrorists too. Saudi arabian, Israeli, sri lankan, US, Chinese, russian, Burmese governments etc are all way bigger threats to humanity. Israel has killed a confirmed 60k plus people and actually realistic estimates put them in the 400k range. They are starving millions in Gaza plus all the shit in west bank. They are doing all this with the support of western governments especially US and German. Russia is doing a genocide of ukranians. One of these alone is a far bigger issue than years and years of terrorism. 

10s of millions didn't die, millions did and a function of that is US imperialism and colonialism  in general,  not so called terrorism. Your arguments don't matter regarding Israel cause israel has done all this shit. And its not just netenyahu. Israel's genocide started with the first nakba