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sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

He fought against systematic racism when it was actually a thing. The guy lived through the Jim Crow era. I think he would more than happy with how things worked out. At least up until around 2010.

In the words of MLK Jr:

"our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years. How then can he be absorbed into the mainstream of American life if we do not do something special for him now, in order to balance the equation and equip him to compete on a just and equal basis?"

Even if we were to assume that systemic racism is behind us (and it very much is not), he consistently argued for the modern leftist position of equity, not equality. You cannot simply remove the oppression from the equation, you must provide payment to the oppressed to allow them to reach equality, else you are just trading one system of oppression (race) for another (wealth). 

The right has tricked so many people into thinking that because MLK said "I have a dream that men will be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin" (to paraphrase), he advocated for colorblind policy. Such an assertion is pure nonsense. MLK Jr advocated for radical change, not just up to the point where segregation is lifted, but until the point where the black population equally shared the fruits of this country's successes.

We have not reached the world MLK Jr dreamt of, largely because “The great majority of Americans ... are uneasy with injustice but unwilling yet to pay a significant price to eradicate it”. 

There was always going to be a cost. People just care more about their own comfort than they do about justice, and that hill only gets steeper as we approach equity....

All the comments so far and especially op is spot on.

Martin Luther king had also strong Words for us white moderates. 

KLXVER i assume he pretty much talking about the kind of mentality that back then was characterizing MLK "uncle Tom "etc.

His approach was radical, but not extreme.

Some People today confuse their extreme/counterproductive views as ideals and they don't accept any single one nuance. 

Civic right pacts had 60% support in 1965, mostly owing to mjk" mostly so called moderate approach. 

Imagine for instance if a bank reject a loan to a black family and instantly they blame to racism instead of credibility score , which can be the case and must be some paradigms even today. 

This will spark icious circle of anger and what ever entails.

Remember defund the police, how unpopular ended up even among black people.

USA has headed to very bizarre roads... Turning backwards. 

When you are in 85%, further pushing them adversely instead of  to merely concern people, you risk to go back more and more. 

"in the pursue of what klver mentioned, not enough to be not racist, you have to be actively anti racist,  as if the former negates the latter. 

Fortunately trump is messing with economy, which is a turning point of voters...

He was first and foremost elected for fixing the woes, mostly to the inflation crisis  Ukraine etc not choices of dems. 

Last edited by tak13 - on 19 June 2025

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I think that systemic racism can exist and be unfair towards white people but not in Europe. In Africa or Asia of course it exists and discrimination against white people can exist tho.



yanis-bnth said:

I think that systemic racism can exist and be unfair towards white people but not in Europe. In Africa or Asia of course it exists and discrimination against white people can exist tho.

Well that depends on what you personally find unfair. I mean can you think of many non white people that have been charged with hate speech or hate crimes in Europe?



KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

Systemic racism refers to forms of racism embedded in systems that produce or perpetuate unfair treatment or oppression. It is often invisible and doesn't even require any intention or conscious decision to perform a racist or discriminatory action. Still, pretty much every system in modern society is in some fashion influenced by a degree of systemic racism, be it housing, criminal justice, education, medicine, labor, etc. Often a lot of weight from a history of more outward or obvious systemic racism has been pulled forward and is still being felt, however there still exists some weight on these systems today.

If you'd like, feel free to pick one (listed or unlisted) and we can talk about it further.

I will if you can tell me one that is unfair towards white people.

Hey, feel free to make an argument if you have one to make, but I'm not going to do it for you.

Since it seems like we've reached a dead end, I'll just say to the OP, I think people don't call out online racism more often because when we do, what comes out of it? People like KLXVER would rather hate the messenger to preserve their own innocence than take the uncomfortable step of acknowledging that society hasn't shed its racist baggage, because doing so challenges our own comfort a lot more than some annoying person yelling about racism online. So, we dig in deeper and we find ourselves backsliding into more and more obvious forms of discrimination...



sundin13 said:
KLXVER said:

I will if you can tell me one that is unfair towards white people.

Hey, feel free to make an argument if you have one to make, but I'm not going to do it for you.

Since it seems like we've reached a dead end, I'll just say to the OP, I think people don't call out online racism more often because when we do, what comes out of it? People like KLXVER would rather hate the messenger to preserve their own innocence than take the uncomfortable step of acknowledging that society hasn't shed its racist baggage, because doing so challenges our own comfort a lot more than some annoying person yelling about racism online. So, we dig in deeper and we find ourselves backsliding into more and more obvious forms of discrimination...

Well when the messenger has zero news and just makes it up so they have something to fight for and feel good about themselves, then I tend to blame them.



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KLXVER said:
yanis-bnth said:

I think that systemic racism can exist and be unfair towards white people but not in Europe. In Africa or Asia of course it exists and discrimination against white people can exist tho.

Well that depends on what you personally find unfair. I mean can you think of many non white people that have been charged with hate speech or hate crimes in Europe?

Yeah homophobic people who aren't white are charged with hate speech or hate crimes same goes for non white people who hate Jewish people. 



KLXVER said:
sundin13 said:

In the words of MLK Jr:

"our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years. How then can he be absorbed into the mainstream of American life if we do not do something special for him now, in order to balance the equation and equip him to compete on a just and equal basis?"

Even if we were to assume that systemic racism is behind us (and it very much is not), he consistently argued for the modern leftist position of equity, not equality. You cannot simply remove the oppression from the equation, you must provide payment to the oppressed to allow them to reach equality, else you are just trading one system of oppression (race) for another (wealth). 

The right has tricked so many people into thinking that because MLK said "I have a dream that men will be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin" (to paraphrase), he advocated for colorblind policy. Such an assertion is pure nonsense. MLK Jr advocated for radical change, not just up to the point where segregation is lifted, but until the point where the black population equally shared the fruits of this country's successes.

We have not reached the world MLK Jr dreamt of, largely because “The great majority of Americans ... are uneasy with injustice but unwilling yet to pay a significant price to eradicate it”. 

There was always going to be a cost. People just care more about their own comfort than they do about justice, and that hill only gets steeper as we approach equity....

There is only systematic racism if you believe some races are beneath others.

If there's a concept of races, then there is systemic racism.

Most people outside the US would consider people of another skin color or complexion a different ethnicity, but not a different race.

If I ever would have to fill out a form where they ask which race I belong to, I'd write down Homo Sapiens Sapiens - and dare them to say it's wrong, because if they would I'd sue them into oblivion for not even considering me a human being.



yanis-bnth said:
KLXVER said:

Well that depends on what you personally find unfair. I mean can you think of many non white people that have been charged with hate speech or hate crimes in Europe?

Yeah homophobic people who aren't white are charged with hate speech or hate crimes same goes for non white people who hate Jewish people. 

Fair enough. Do you have a link to one of those?



Right, the whole concept of race in the US is WEIRD. 



Bofferbrauer2 said:
KLXVER said:

There is only systematic racism if you believe some races are beneath others.

If there's a concept of races, then there is systemic racism.

Most people outside the US would consider people of another skin color or complexion a different ethnicity, but not a different race.

If I ever would have to fill out a form where they ask which race I belong to, I'd write down Homo Sapiens Sapiens - and dare them to say it's wrong, because if they would I'd sue them into oblivion for not even considering me a human being.

I wish more people would think like that.