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Switch 2 will be...

A success 59 83.10%
 
A disaster 2 2.82%
 
Somewhere in the middle. 10 14.08%
 
Total:71
Pemalite said:
Conina said:

Wii and WiiU share a part of the same name. So do all PlayStations and all Xboxes.

Only a tiny tiny fraction of WiiU games supported Wii controllers or the Wii sensor bar.

Only a tiny tiny fraction of WiiU games supported motion controls, the focus was clearly on controls with sticks and buttons.

And all Playstations and Xbox's are iterative updates to each other.

In the end, even Google agrees with me. Haha


Whoa, Google agrees with everything I said too!

When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Nah I'm sure it will still look better on Switch 2 even with the worse screen because of the lower resolution and lower image quality it has on Switch 1. Even though it looks good for a Switch 1 game, it has a bit of a washed out and blurry look compared to Switch 2. It will definately make for an interesting comparison that's for sure and if it does look better on Switch OLED than Switch 2 than I think Nintendo have made a mistake with the Switch 2 screen they chose. 

More to visuals than just resolution.

We have already seen there is very little "graphical effects change" with Metroid Prime 4 between Switch 1 and Switch 2, which is by design in order to scale it up to 4k 60fps on the Switch 2.

It will have more vibrant colours and deeper inky blacks on the Switch 1 OLED... To assert that the OLED will have a more "washed out" look is literally a big fat lie and literally flies in the face of already established evidence and comparisons between the two displays.

OLED obliterates LCD in terms of colour and contrast. It's a zero contest.

I don't think you grasp how much of a gulf there is between LCD and OLED when it comes to colour and contrast.

Obviously if you are someone who never removes their console from the Dock, the Switch 2 release will be the superior version... 

But if you have highly contrasty games like Metroid Prime 4 or Ori and the Will of the Wisps? You can't go past that inky OLED panel, it just pops and looks incredible.

zorg1000 said:

Having a different "strategy" (Which is blatantly obvious) doesn't discount the fact it's an iterative update.
They can both exist concurrently.





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Pemalite said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Nah I'm sure it will still look better on Switch 2 even with the worse screen because of the lower resolution and lower image quality it has on Switch 1. Even though it looks good for a Switch 1 game, it has a bit of a washed out and blurry look compared to Switch 2. It will definately make for an interesting comparison that's for sure and if it does look better on Switch OLED than Switch 2 than I think Nintendo have made a mistake with the Switch 2 screen they chose. 

More to visuals than just resolution.

We have already seen there is very little "graphical effects change" with Metroid Prime 4 between Switch 1 and Switch 2, which is by design in order to scale it up to 4k 60fps on the Switch 2.

It will have more vibrant colours and deeper inky blacks on the Switch 1 OLED... To assert that the OLED will have a more "washed out" look is literally a big fat lie and literally flies in the face of already established evidence and comparisons between the two displays.

OLED obliterates LCD in terms of colour and contrast. It's a zero contest.

I don't think you grasp how much of a gulf there is between LCD and OLED when it comes to colour and contrast.

Obviously if you are someone who never removes their console from the Dock, the Switch 2 release will be the superior version... 

But if you have highly contrasty games like Metroid Prime 4 or Ori and the Will of the Wisps? You can't go past that inky OLED panel, it just pops and looks incredible.



I think you misunderstood me slightly as I didn't say that it was the OLED screen that would make it look washed out. I meant that the washed out look was intrinsically part of the Switch 1 game. If you look at the side by sides it's pretty noticeable that there isn't as sharp of a contrast as the Switch 2 version. I assume it's because it's less stressful on the hardware to produce a washed out and blurry image than it is to produce a sharp and vibrantly contrasting image. That's just what they had to do to get it running on the very weak Switch 1 hardware I'm guessing. So to summarise, with the OLED you've got an intrinsically blurry and washed out game on a beautiful screen, and on the Switch 2 you've got a sharp and vibrant game running on a duller screen. 



Pemalite said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

Nah I'm sure it will still look better on Switch 2 even with the worse screen because of the lower resolution and lower image quality it has on Switch 1. Even though it looks good for a Switch 1 game, it has a bit of a washed out and blurry look compared to Switch 2. It will definately make for an interesting comparison that's for sure and if it does look better on Switch OLED than Switch 2 than I think Nintendo have made a mistake with the Switch 2 screen they chose. 

More to visuals than just resolution.

We have already seen there is very little "graphical effects change" with Metroid Prime 4 between Switch 1 and Switch 2, which is by design in order to scale it up to 4k 60fps on the Switch 2.

It will have more vibrant colours and deeper inky blacks on the Switch 1 OLED... To assert that the OLED will have a more "washed out" look is literally a big fat lie and literally flies in the face of already established evidence and comparisons between the two displays.

OLED obliterates LCD in terms of colour and contrast. It's a zero contest.

I don't think you grasp how much of a gulf there is between LCD and OLED when it comes to colour and contrast.

Obviously if you are someone who never removes their console from the Dock, the Switch 2 release will be the superior version... 

But if you have highly contrasty games like Metroid Prime 4 or Ori and the Will of the Wisps? You can't go past that inky OLED panel, it just pops and looks incredible.

zorg1000 said:

Having a different "strategy" (Which is blatantly obvious) doesn't discount the fact it's an iterative update.
They can both exist concurrently.

What game have you been looking at? All comparisons between prime 4 on switch 1 vs 2 show quite a lot of graphical differences with lighting, textures, shadows, resolution etc. OLED screens definitely have an advantage over lcd screens but the difference really isn't as impactfull as you are trying to make it seem. The minor advantages that an oled screen has over an lcd will be dwarfed by the advantages of the switch 2 over the switch oled.



Mr.GameCrazy said:

So far, so good. Currently back to playing Pokémon Scarlett on my Switch 2 now that it runs in 60fps! Will play Tears of the Kingdom after I finish the DLC content.

Oops. I forgot that I still need to finish playing  Xenoblade Chronicles X. 😅

I wonder how much faster the game loads on the Switch 2.



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Dante9 said:
Jaicee said:

I just wanted to remark briefly on my buying experience today. After hearing endlessly about how there was going to be a massive shortage, I fully expected to fail in my attempt to get a Switch 2 today since I hadn't pre-ordered, so I opted not to stress myself about it. I took the day off and went to a 7 AM store opening at about 7:05, picked up a Switch 2, and drove home. It was the simplest, smoothest, easiest launch day experience I've had in decades. No mandatory pre-ordering, no getting in line at 8 PM the previous evening or anything like that. All console launches should be like my experience today was. I just wanted to shout out the good people at Nintendo for ensuring the delivery of an adequate volume of systems this time around, at least in my area. Thank you for making it easy for me!

Uh-oh, flop confirmed if you got yours that easily.

Not necessarily. Nintendo had been stockpiling the Switch 2 for a while now. 



Pemalite said:

zorg1000 said:

Having a different "strategy" (Which is blatantly obvious) doesn't discount the fact it's an iterative update.
They can both exist concurrently.


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/iterative

Iterative: doing something again and again, to improve it.


Having a fundamentally different strategy about things like primary control method, demographics, marketing, software output, etc. by definition means it wasn’t an iterative successor because Wii U wasn’t a Wii that was “the same thing just better”.

The PlayStation line of consoles are iterative because they all have the same focus. They are each more powerful than the last, the primary controller is always a revision of the previous, they have all pushed for the 13-35 demographic of shooters/sports/racing/action fans, they typically expanded their multimedia functions, etc.

Switch 2 is an iterative successor, it follows the same strategy and design of Switch 1, just bigger and stronger. The hybrid aspect of being able to play on the go or docked on the TV is still the primary focus and the Joy-Cons are essentially the same with some modest upgrades.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

I'm not a day one buyer, but I wanted a place to share my shock at finding a Switch 2 + Mario Kart bundle at a hypermarket for what I think was 609 euros. Yes, consoles are more expensive here than in most of the eurozone, but that's still a shocking price. I guess that must have something to do with there being stock (although it looked like some bundles had been sold too).



LegitHyperbole said:
Conina said:

It's not boxed worse than most expensive smartphones and iPads.

Their displays are also directly behind the cardbox, so that you see the display first after opening the box.

Stapling into these boxes is just stupid.

I've never seen a smartphone boxes cardboard you could bend, I have kept all my smartphone boxes since the S2, while there is one brown box where they were going eco friendly that's a bit off they are strong as hell and same for Apples packaging at least up to the IPhone 14. The Switch 2 has a very thin cardboard over the top top with the screen exposed, not even padding or a thin foam. It is packaged so, so much worse and it was inviting the stapler incident, not gamestops fault and completely on Nintendo, I find is suspect and the fact that they could simply flip it over screams planned, controlled controversy that costs them nothing. 

The Switch 2 is in a sturdy cardboard box enclosed into another bendy cardboard box.

These two boxes combined aren't less sturdy than the cardboard box of a $1000 - $3000 iPad Pro:



By the way, why are consoles so expensive in Finland, Norway and Sweden ? I was checking Amazon in Sweden and it's so expensive.