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LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

Maybe people make jokes or mock because you post any tweet you see, like BGatesIsaPyscho, Lmao.

"New Jersey Residents are now reporting unusual Bird patterns as Thousands of birds migrate from New Jersey"

I'm sorry but I laughed at him in the same sentence as labelling it as "unusual" also providing the explanation.

There's nothing weird with the 2nd video and the 1st video is 10 seconds of an extremely close up shot of birds doing bird things. This is why some people are mocking or getting tired of this already, because everyone is looking up at the sky for once in their lives now and posting any old shit they see as evidence of Iranian drones, Russian drones, Aliens, UFOs, etc. It has poisoned the well from the original mystery.

What's more likely.

  1. Birds are migrating and doing typical bird things.
  2. Birds know that the aliens have arrived.
  3. Birds know that Russia/Iran are flying drones around America.
  4. Birds know about a man made disaster about to happen.

C'mon.

You're such a skeptic and have such a great handle on reality. You have it all solved. I wish I could be as smart as you. 

Nah, I don't deny something isn't being fully explained, but half the tweets that you have posted have been community noted, now we're paranoid about fucking birds flying, Lol. Elsewhere I've seen dozens of "evidence" posted which ended up being debunked almost immediately, ranging from typical camera anomalies to people being like "Omg what's that?!" only for it to be a plane, multiple times. Everyone with their camera is now looking up at the skies and posting any old shit they see and using it as "evidence" of some "mystery" to be solved, it's becoming mass hysteria and distracts from the original mystery which I'm pretty confident that birds don't have shit to do with it, Lol.

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Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

You're such a skeptic and have such a great handle on reality. You have it all solved. I wish I could be as smart as you. 

Nah, I don't deny something isn't being fully explained, but half the tweets that you have posted have been community noted, now we're paranoid about fucking birds flying, Lol. Elsewhere I've seen dozens of "evidence" posted which ended up being debunked almost immediately, ranging from typical camera anomalies to people being like "Omg what's that?!" only for it to be a plane, multiple times. Everyone with their camera is now looking up at the skies and posting any old shit they see and using it as "evidence" of some "mystery" to be solved, it's becoming mass hysteria and distracts from the original mystery which I'm pretty confident that birds don't have shit to do with it, Lol.

First off thank you for being honest, that's exactly how I feel, things aren't being explained when they are clearly known, cause if not we have some serious problems but it's clearly something more than what they are saying and that's the main problem, mass hysteria my arse. Now...

I've delted all tweets the received a community note as soon as I have seen them get noted or someone mentioned them, even when that note is shit and doesn't do anything but put forward a best guess answer. Like community notes is some kind of arbiter of truth, it is not. 

Third, you go mass hysteria... yeah, my ginger fanny, man. This is exactly why I worded the last tweet the way I did. Many people at the start of covid called me a mad man and many others, laughing at us all the way along from the start of January that year. Making jokes, calling us lunatics, doing exactly what you're doing now only to become the people (the exact same people) who were angry about masks, pushing untested vaccines and being the governments hers of sheep. 

Tbh, I don't care for talking to you on this issue, you have to be right and to prove yourself to much to talk on topics like this, it's not about being right. There is no right or wrong, it's about finding out the truth and people like you who have to be right just can't compute that. 

Sorry, to be harsh. Happy Christmas.



LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

Nah, I don't deny something isn't being fully explained, but half the tweets that you have posted have been community noted, now we're paranoid about fucking birds flying, Lol. Elsewhere I've seen dozens of "evidence" posted which ended up being debunked almost immediately, ranging from typical camera anomalies to people being like "Omg what's that?!" only for it to be a plane, multiple times. Everyone with their camera is now looking up at the skies and posting any old shit they see and using it as "evidence" of some "mystery" to be solved, it's becoming mass hysteria and distracts from the original mystery which I'm pretty confident that birds don't have shit to do with it, Lol.

First off thank you for being honest, that's exactly how I feel, things aren't being explained when they are clearly known, cause if not we have some serious problems but it's clearly something more than what they are saying and that's the main problem, mass hysteria my arse. Now...

I've delted all tweets the received a community note as soon as I have seen them get noted or someone mentioned them, even when that note is shit and doesn't do anything but put forward a best guess answer. Like community notes is some kind of arbiter of truth, it is not. 

Third, you go mass hysteria... yeah, my ginger fanny, man. This is exactly why I worded the last tweet the way I did. Many people at the start of covid called me a mad man and many others, laughing at us all the way along from the start of January that year. Making jokes, calling us lunatics, doing exactly what you're doing now only to become the people (the exact same people) who were angry about masks, pushing untested vaccines and being the governments hers of sheep. 

Tbh, I don't care for talking to you on this issue, you have to be right and to prove yourself to much to talk on topics like this, it's not about being right. There is no right or wrong, it's about finding out the truth and people like you who have to be right just can't compute that. 

Sorry, to be harsh. Happy Christmas.

Lol. There are drones flying around and we don't know who they're from. But folk shoving their phones in the sky at every little thing and being like "Omfg! What is this?! Is it aliens?! Is it China?! Is it Iran!?" only for it to turn out to be your average plane, or a camera lens effect, is becoming mass hysteria. You have evidenced this multiple times with multiple debunked tweets that you have posted, ranging from camera lens effects, to birds flying, to a training scenario, to aircraft vapour.

My issue is with (and this issue happens very often with you specifically) people posting literally ANYTHING that they see, then expect everyone else to debunk it for them, now it's occasionally fine to be like "hey, what do you think this is?" but with you, I don't think you have ANY self control or take a single second to put any critical thinking into what you're posting or question anything, it's very obvious that you just pluck literally the first tweet that you see and don't put a single thought into "Is this credible or not?" and expect others to do the work for you and then we're debunking conspiracy after conspiracy.

I've not really got a problem with people questioning what these drones are doing, who is operating them, etc. I take issue when obvious nonsense is consistently posted and spread without a single thought behind it, earlier you complained that people were making jokes or attacking the sources, have you not considered why that is and if it may have something to do with the sources that you share?

Why do YOU think birds are flying around? Do you really think scenarios like "Birds know there's a nuke" or "Birds know Iran/Russia is flying drones" or "Birds know the aliens are here" actually sound logical at all? If not those then what? Is there a logical explanation other than simply, it's birds migrating and doing what birds do, Lol. Yes animals can sense natural disasters but none of these theories so far have been linked to "natural disasters" at all, it has all been made made theories or "aliens" Lol.

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Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

First off thank you for being honest, that's exactly how I feel, things aren't being explained when they are clearly known, cause if not we have some serious problems but it's clearly something more than what they are saying and that's the main problem, mass hysteria my arse. Now...

I've delted all tweets the received a community note as soon as I have seen them get noted or someone mentioned them, even when that note is shit and doesn't do anything but put forward a best guess answer. Like community notes is some kind of arbiter of truth, it is not. 

Third, you go mass hysteria... yeah, my ginger fanny, man. This is exactly why I worded the last tweet the way I did. Many people at the start of covid called me a mad man and many others, laughing at us all the way along from the start of January that year. Making jokes, calling us lunatics, doing exactly what you're doing now only to become the people (the exact same people) who were angry about masks, pushing untested vaccines and being the governments hers of sheep. 

Tbh, I don't care for talking to you on this issue, you have to be right and to prove yourself to much to talk on topics like this, it's not about being right. There is no right or wrong, it's about finding out the truth and people like you who have to be right just can't compute that. 

Sorry, to be harsh. Happy Christmas.

Lol. There are drones flying around and we don't know who they're from. But folk shoving their phones in the sky at every little thing and being like "Omfg! What is this?! Is it aliens?! Is it China?! Is it Iran!?" only for it to turn out to be your average plane, or a camera lens effect, is becoming mass hysteria. You have evidenced this multiple times with multiple debunked tweets that you have posted, ranging from camera lens effects, to birds flying, to a training scenario, to aircraft vapour.

My issue is with (and this issue happens very often with you specifically) people posting literally ANYTHING that they see, then expect everyone else to debunk it for them, now it's occasionally fine to be like "hey, what do you think this is?" but with you, I don't think you have ANY self control or take a single second to put any critical thinking into what you're posting or question anything, it's very obvious that you just pluck literally the first tweet that you see and don't put a single thought into "Is this credible or not?" and expect others to do the work for you and then we're debunking conspiracy after conspiracy.

I've not really got a problem with people questioning what these drones are doing, who is operating them, etc. I take issue when obvious nonsense is consistently posted and spread without a single thought behind it, earlier you complained that people were making jokes or attacking the sources, have you not considered why that is and if it may have something to do with the sources that you share?

Why do YOU think birds are flying around? Do you really think scenarios like "Birds know there's a nuke" or "Birds know Iran/Russia is flying drones" or "Birds know the aliens are here" actually sound logical at all? If not those then what? Is there a logical explanation other than simply, it's birds migrating and doing what birds do, Lol. Yes animals can sense natural disasters but none of these theories so far have been linked to "natural disasters" at all, it has all been made made theories or "aliens" Lol.

I think that LH just likes these conspiracy theories and is trying to talk about it.  You often see a lack of reason with these kinds of discussions but that's irrelevant because it's fun to do so.  



shavenferret said:
Ryuu96 said:

Lol. There are drones flying around and we don't know who they're from. But folk shoving their phones in the sky at every little thing and being like "Omfg! What is this?! Is it aliens?! Is it China?! Is it Iran!?" only for it to turn out to be your average plane, or a camera lens effect, is becoming mass hysteria. You have evidenced this multiple times with multiple debunked tweets that you have posted, ranging from camera lens effects, to birds flying, to a training scenario, to aircraft vapour.

My issue is with (and this issue happens very often with you specifically) people posting literally ANYTHING that they see, then expect everyone else to debunk it for them, now it's occasionally fine to be like "hey, what do you think this is?" but with you, I don't think you have ANY self control or take a single second to put any critical thinking into what you're posting or question anything, it's very obvious that you just pluck literally the first tweet that you see and don't put a single thought into "Is this credible or not?" and expect others to do the work for you and then we're debunking conspiracy after conspiracy.

I've not really got a problem with people questioning what these drones are doing, who is operating them, etc. I take issue when obvious nonsense is consistently posted and spread without a single thought behind it, earlier you complained that people were making jokes or attacking the sources, have you not considered why that is and if it may have something to do with the sources that you share?

Why do YOU think birds are flying around? Do you really think scenarios like "Birds know there's a nuke" or "Birds know Iran/Russia is flying drones" or "Birds know the aliens are here" actually sound logical at all? If not those then what? Is there a logical explanation other than simply, it's birds migrating and doing what birds do, Lol. Yes animals can sense natural disasters but none of these theories so far have been linked to "natural disasters" at all, it has all been made made theories or "aliens" Lol.

I think that LH just likes these conspiracy theories and is trying to talk about it.  You often see a lack of reason with these kinds of discussions but that's irrelevant because it's fun to do so.  

Idk. He complains that people are mocking or joking but he doesn't help himself by what he posts, Lol.

It's not even a conspiracy theory that there are drones flying around, unknown to the public, but the OP has a history of just posting anything he sees, it's clear they have zero desire to fact check stuff before posting and leave it for everyone else to do the work for them, it's frustrating for those who want to have an actual proper discussion on something when the conspiracy theories then start flying around and every single thing is posted and now everyone is instead focused on debunking every little thing.

Like...Birds...Flying...Lol.

I wasn't even one of the ones who mocked him or joked about it before he made that comment but I feel like I should point out why I believe it happens with him. Personally as well, some conspiracy theories are fun to laugh at and entertain but they often delve into something more over time, and is it really useful to discussing something seriously when there's conspiracy theories flying around everywhere?

Is this a serious discussion or not? If it is a serious discussion then you have to be more careful about what you post.

People will continue to attack the news sources that he uses or make jokes about the situation as long as he continues to use poor quality news sources and doesn't put thought into what he is posting and can you really blame them? I mean that Twitter user has the handle "BillGatesIsAPsycho" C'mon man, Lmao. Nobody will take it seriously and they'd be justified in not doing so.

He can take that onboard or not, if not then don't complain when people come into the thread and mock it, Lol.

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Ryuu96 said:
shavenferret said:

I think that LH just likes these conspiracy theories and is trying to talk about it.  You often see a lack of reason with these kinds of discussions but that's irrelevant because it's fun to do so.  

Idk. He complains that people are mocking or joking but he doesn't help himself by what he posts, Lol.

It's not even a conspiracy theory that there are drones flying around, unknown to the public, but the OP has a history of just posting anything he sees, it's clear they have zero desire to fact check stuff before posting and leave it for everyone else to do the work for them, it's frustrating for those who want to have an actual proper discussion on something when the conspiracy theories then start flying around and every single thing is posted and now everyone is instead focused on debunking every little thing.

Like...Birds...Flying...Lol.

I wasn't even one of the ones who mocked him or joked about it before he made that comment but I feel like I should point out why I believe it happens with him. Personally as well, some conspiracy theories are fun to laugh at and entertain but they often delve into something more over time, and is it really useful to discussing something seriously when there's conspiracy theories flying around everywhere?

Is this a serious discussion or not? If it is a serious discussion then you have to be more careful about what you post.

People will continue to attack the news sources that he uses or make jokes about the situation as long as he continues to use poor quality news sources and doesn't put thought into what he is posting and can you really blame them? I mean that Twitter user has the handle "BillGatesIsAPsycho" C'mon man, Lmao. Nobody will take it seriously and they'd be justified in not doing so.

He can take that onboard or not, if not then don't complain when people come into the thread and mock it, Lol.

right, if you're gonna discuss this at least be able to trade jokes, more fun that way!



Ryuu96 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

First off thank you for being honest, that's exactly how I feel, things aren't being explained when they are clearly known, cause if not we have some serious problems but it's clearly something more than what they are saying and that's the main problem, mass hysteria my arse. Now...

I've delted all tweets the received a community note as soon as I have seen them get noted or someone mentioned them, even when that note is shit and doesn't do anything but put forward a best guess answer. Like community notes is some kind of arbiter of truth, it is not. 

Third, you go mass hysteria... yeah, my ginger fanny, man. This is exactly why I worded the last tweet the way I did. Many people at the start of covid called me a mad man and many others, laughing at us all the way along from the start of January that year. Making jokes, calling us lunatics, doing exactly what you're doing now only to become the people (the exact same people) who were angry about masks, pushing untested vaccines and being the governments hers of sheep. 

Tbh, I don't care for talking to you on this issue, you have to be right and to prove yourself to much to talk on topics like this, it's not about being right. There is no right or wrong, it's about finding out the truth and people like you who have to be right just can't compute that. 

Sorry, to be harsh. Happy Christmas.

Lol. There are drones flying around and we don't know who they're from. But folk shoving their phones in the sky at every little thing and being like "Omfg! What is this?! Is it aliens?! Is it China?! Is it Iran!?" only for it to turn out to be your average plane, or a camera lens effect, is becoming mass hysteria. You have evidenced this multiple times with multiple debunked tweets that you have posted, ranging from camera lens effects, to birds flying, to a training scenario, to aircraft vapour.

My issue is with (and this issue happens very often with you specifically) people posting literally ANYTHING that they see, then expect everyone else to debunk it for them, now it's occasionally fine to be like "hey, what do you think this is?" but with you, I don't think you have ANY self control or take a single second to put any critical thinking into what you're posting or question anything, it's very obvious that you just pluck literally the first tweet that you see and don't put a single thought into "Is this credible or not?" and expect others to do the work for you and then we're debunking conspiracy after conspiracy.

I've not really got a problem with people questioning what these drones are doing, who is operating them, etc. I take issue when obvious nonsense is consistently posted and spread without a single thought behind it, earlier you complained that people were making jokes or attacking the sources, have you not considered why that is and if it may have something to do with the sources that you share?

Why do YOU think birds are flying around? Do you really think scenarios like "Birds know there's a nuke" or "Birds know Iran/Russia is flying drones" or "Birds know the aliens are here" actually sound logical at all? If not those then what? Is there a logical explanation other than simply, it's birds migrating and doing what birds do, Lol. Yes animals can sense natural disasters but none of these theories so far have been linked to "natural disasters" at all, it has all been made made theories or "aliens" Lol.

Or ffs. All of the above.... c'mon on man, haven't ya done enough of this with the election and all shit. You are not the arbiter of truth. I do NOT know. You do NOT know. We do NOT know.  No one KNOWS. ffs like, you'd swear you held the candle of all that is true in the universe. 



LegitHyperbole said:
Ryuu96 said:

Lol. There are drones flying around and we don't know who they're from. But folk shoving their phones in the sky at every little thing and being like "Omfg! What is this?! Is it aliens?! Is it China?! Is it Iran!?" only for it to turn out to be your average plane, or a camera lens effect, is becoming mass hysteria. You have evidenced this multiple times with multiple debunked tweets that you have posted, ranging from camera lens effects, to birds flying, to a training scenario, to aircraft vapour.

My issue is with (and this issue happens very often with you specifically) people posting literally ANYTHING that they see, then expect everyone else to debunk it for them, now it's occasionally fine to be like "hey, what do you think this is?" but with you, I don't think you have ANY self control or take a single second to put any critical thinking into what you're posting or question anything, it's very obvious that you just pluck literally the first tweet that you see and don't put a single thought into "Is this credible or not?" and expect others to do the work for you and then we're debunking conspiracy after conspiracy.

I've not really got a problem with people questioning what these drones are doing, who is operating them, etc. I take issue when obvious nonsense is consistently posted and spread without a single thought behind it, earlier you complained that people were making jokes or attacking the sources, have you not considered why that is and if it may have something to do with the sources that you share?

Why do YOU think birds are flying around? Do you really think scenarios like "Birds know there's a nuke" or "Birds know Iran/Russia is flying drones" or "Birds know the aliens are here" actually sound logical at all? If not those then what? Is there a logical explanation other than simply, it's birds migrating and doing what birds do, Lol. Yes animals can sense natural disasters but none of these theories so far have been linked to "natural disasters" at all, it has all been made made theories or "aliens" Lol.

Or ffs. All of the above.... c'mon on man, haven't ya done enough of this with the election and all shit. You are not the arbiter of truth. I do NOT know. You do NOT know. We do NOT know.  No one KNOWS. ffs like, you'd swear you held the candle of all that is true in the universe. 

All of the above? So it's Iranian drones, Russian drones, Nukes and Aliens!

"Haven't you done enough of this" - You mean correcting you? Probably, but I'm far from the only one who has pointed out that you have a history of posting literally anything you see and then expect others to do the work for you, then complain when others call you out on it. I'm not the arbiter of truth but I actually try to take care in what I post and quite frankly I'm sick of having to do peoples fact checking for them.

Like I said, half your posts have been debunked in this thread alone, you're conspiracy theory posting over birds flying, that is why people are mocking you and your sources, that is why people aren't taking you seriously. This is a relatively minor issue for this thread specifically but we're going to start cracking down on misinformation and people with a history of posting shit without verify anything beforehand. Like I said, something is going on, that may be worth discussing, that doesn't justify posting any old shit that you can find and poisoning the discussion, Lol.

I've told you why people are joking around and mocking your sources, you've clearly completely ignored it, I'm not interested in defending you from those mocking's or thread derails if you can't be bothered to put effort into your posting, that was my firm advice, you've thrown it in my face, so please don't come running to the mods if others mock what you're posting.

I've basically told you to take more care in what you post, multiple times, I will make a mental note that you can't be bothered.

Put it this way, I am not the only one who has called out your posting style of posting anything you see and making others to do the fact checking for you, others have called you out on it, multiple non-Mod users, so you also can't claim it's a Mod thing either, now we have this thread where half the thread is mocking you, your sources or joking around, now it could have been a thread of serious discussion but it's not.

Why is that? The common link is yourself, your posting style opens you up to this kind of mocking and people not taking you seriously, how can you expect people to take you seriously considering you put zero thought behind what you're sharing? People don't want to do your fact checking for you, people don't want to see any old Twitter weirdo that you can find, they don't care about "My Uncle at Nintendo" type sources.

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