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Fine fuck it let's redefine everything. Virtual Hydelide. Virtua Fighter. Virtua Cop. Virtual On are now all VR games. They have Virtua/Virtual in the name. The graphics on them were so real; it was like reality! Boom VR!



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

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Leynos said:

Fine fuck it let's redefine everything. Virtual Hydelide. Virtua Fighter. Virtua Cop. Virtual On are now all VR games. They have Virtua/Virtual in the name. The graphics on them were so real; it was like reality! Boom VR!

Virtuals are Headhelds. 



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

DroidKnight said:
Leynos said:

Fine fuck it let's redefine everything. Virtual Hydelide. Virtua Fighter. Virtua Cop. Virtual On are now all VR games. They have Virtua/Virtual in the name. The graphics on them were so real; it was like reality! Boom VR!

Virtuals are Headhelds. 

"Headhelds"- such a nice deffinition!🤣😂 I like it. 

But many people think they can determaine what we are allowed to compare and what not. Dertermaining what is called Handheld, PC, Console...

I have the feeling vgchartz logic is:

Playstation is always Nr.1, the best, god, the king. If some system outsells it, its no competition or/ and a so called "different target group"🤣😂. Switch is a hybrid, but more a homeconsole (despite the fact more people use it in handheld mode- there even was a statistics in ir.nintendo.com wich confirms it. This is where they also confirmed that 43% of their userbase is 25- 34 years old, smashing the faces of the "kiddy- shouters", but thats a different topic that upsets too many teenies😘)

Ah, and we are not allowed to call the Switch a "handheld" (because it would have been the most powerfull handheld of all time- and still is the most powerful handheld that supports games on cardridges), but a Steam Deck, Rog Faily... are dedicated handhelds, despite the fact you can also hook them up on a TV... ähm sorry PC fanboys "MONITOR" wich lets it play like a console/ PC. Strange times🤣😂

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killer7 said:

But many people think they can determaine what we are allowed to compare and what not. Dertermaining what is called Handheld, PC, Console...

I have the feeling vgchartz logic is:

Playstation is always Nr.1, the best, god, the king. If some system outsells it, its no competition or/ and a so called "different target group🤣😂. Switch is a hybrid, but more a homeconsole (despite the fact more people use it in handheld mode- there even was a statistics in ir.nintendo.com wich confirms it. This is where they also confirmed that 43% of their userbase is 25- 34 years old, smashing the faces of the "kiddy- shouters", but thats a different topic that upsets too many teenies😘)

Ah, and we are not allowed to call the Switch a "handheld" (because it would have been the most powerfull handheld of all time- and still is the most powerful handheld that supports games on cardridges), but a Steam Deck, Rog Faily... are dedicated handhelds, despite the fact you can also hook them up on a TV... ähm sorry PC fanboys "MONITOR" wich lets it play like a console/ PC. Strange times🤣😂

There's also the:

Nin has a blue ocean strategy that allows them to be different and in which they don't have to compete directly with PS or XB, which is a big reason for their more recent success. Yet, also, Switch is definitely a home console that competes directly with PS and XB so when it passes 160M sales it will overtake PS2 for the best selling console ever!



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

The PSP worked so poorly as a home console that you can't really call it one. I don't think much of what came with it supported using it as a home console, it didn't have a comfortable control method for use as a home console, and judging by the posts, its visual output also wasn't really suitable for use as a home console. I know I've never even considered using the PSP as a home console. At best, you can say you could play it comfortably at home, but that's obviously a joke of a point.

The Switch is well-equipped to be used as a home console, and many people do so. If my backlog wasn't so huge, I'd get a Switch to use it exclusively as a home console, and the only thing I'd lament about that would be paying for the screen that I'm probably not going to ever use.

Quite frankly, I don't understand why this thread even exists, because just thinking about the matter in good faith just a little and just for a while should make the situation quite obvious. Is this thread just to stir up discussion?



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This debate will go on forever!

The "hybrid-ness" comes from purpose, not physical functionality. Future mobile devices will be hybrid too. The SteamDeck is pretty much a hybrid that is more console/desktop like inside than the Switch is. The little hardware tweaks Nintendo made to accommodate the purpose do constitute its hybrid identity, but they are complementary factors.

Switch's hardware is not that impressive. It's the purpose that made it impressive. Nintendo did the right thing and had it replace both their home console and handheld lines.

PSP and Vita were not intended as home console replacements or successors. Their games were significantly lower budget and cheaper to buy, they didn't get enough ports, and the ports they did get (barring exceptions like Tekken Dark Resurrection) were much more noticeably inferior to home console versions when compared to Switch vs others (this is mainly due to diminishing returns, but it shows that the Switch was perfectly timed).

The PSP hardware was crazy impressive (arguably the most impressive console hardware of all time) for its time, but it just wasn't purposed to be the main character.



This whole discussion is pointless because Switch doesn't want to be called the highest selling home console or highest selling handheld console, it wants to be called the highest selling console. There is a reason no one calls Michael Jordan or Tom Brady the greatest male basketball or american football players, they are the greatest no matter the distinction. Home or handheld, im the highest. Stop crying and accept it op.



This is not about me trying to take anything away from the Switch. I'm happy for it's success.  The issue is, if we call the switch a hybrid handheld/home console, it removes a category for true hybrid devices to fit into. There is a mini computer called the Beelink GTi12 ultra. It comes with a dock that you can put a graphics card into. It functions as a standalone device, but can co-function with a graphics card too. A true hybrid device. 

The biggest question is, what if Nintendo releases a dock that has graphics hardware in it?  If they did, then I would 100% call that a hybrid handheld/home console. If that happened now though, we have no distinction for it because it has already been taken away by a passthrough box/cable. That is what I'm trying to get at here but people are being overly defensive. 

 



Hardstuck-Platinum said:

The biggest question is, what if Nintendo releases a dock that has graphics hardware in it?  If they did, then I would 100% call that a hybrid handheld/home console. If that happened now though, we have no distinction for it because it has already been taken away by a passthrough box/cable. That is what I'm trying to get at here but people are being overly defensive. 

 

I feel like you're trying to make a difference no one cares about. Yes, it's a difference, but who cares?

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Zkuq said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

The biggest question is, what if Nintendo releases a dock that has graphics hardware in it?  If they did, then I would 100% call that a hybrid handheld/home console. If that happened now though, we have no distinction for it because it has already been taken away by a passthrough box/cable. That is what I'm trying to get at here but people are being overly defensive. 

 

I feel like you're trying to make difference no one cares about you. Yes, it's a difference, but who cares?

I care. If a passthrough box/cable can count make a device into a hybrid what do we call the Beeling GTi12 ultra. It has no distinction now and this is why distinctions are important. People have taken away a category from real hybrids