I predict by Christmas 2027 it will surpass the PS2. That is if they do not stop production
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When will the Switch pass 160M? | |||
| By end of June 2026 | 1 | 1.92% | |
| By end of 2026 | 6 | 11.54% | |
| By end of 2027 | 19 | 36.54% | |
| By end of 2028 | 7 | 13.46% | |
| Never | 19 | 36.54% | |
| Total: | 52 | ||
I predict by Christmas 2027 it will surpass the PS2. That is if they do not stop production
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PS2's status as the "most popular console" is bullshit, largely, how can you can be the most "popular console" when another console has outsold you head to head for 8 years straight (lmao) and is *years* ahead in sales pace? The Switch is kicking the PS2's ass every year it gets to go head to head and that continues right to this day.
Again this is like having two athletes, lets say two home run hitters, Player A (Switch) has outhit Player B (PS2) head to head in their prime years every year head to head. Not a single season has Player B managed to out hit Player A. Now Player A may retire after 10 years not because he can't keep playing, but because he wants to go home and be with his family. So Player B needs several extra years to catch up to Player A's pace. Player B (PS2) is no freaking way the better home run hitter in that case. No one would consider him so in the world of sports.
The only reason the Switch 1 is not going to rout the PS2 is because Nintendo may call off the dogs and not give it a chance, but it's kicked the PS2's ass every year in sales. That's not "sour grapes" or "making excuses!!!", that's the facts. If the Switch 1 was allowed to sell through 2031, which would be the equivalent of how long the PS2 was allowed to sell it would cross 170 million+ easy, everyone knows that. This is not even factoring in that Switch 1 has no price drops and even has a price increase. PS2 wouldn't even have sold 130 million in that case, it relied heavily on being massively discounted to sell those last few years.
| Soundwave said: PS2's status as the "most popular console" is bullshit, largely, how can you can be the most "popular console" when another console has outsold you head to head for 8 years straight (lmao) and is *years* ahead in sales pace? The Switch is kicking the PS2's ass every year it gets to go head to head and that continues right to this day. Again this is like having two athletes, lets say two home run hitters, Player A (Switch) has outhit Player B (PS2) head to head in their prime years every year head to head. Not a single season has Player B managed to out hit Player A. Now Player A may retire after 10 years not because he can't keep playing, but because he wants to go home and be with his family. So Player B needs several extra years to catch up to Player A's pace. Player B (PS2) is no freaking way the better home run hitter in that case. No one would consider him so in the world of sports. The only reason the Switch 1 is not going to rout the PS2 is because Nintendo may call off the dogs and not give it a chance, but it's kicked the PS2's ass every year in sales. That's not "sour grapes" or "making excuses!!!", that's the facts. If the Switch 1 was allowed to sell through 2031, which would be the equivalent of how long the PS2 was allowed to sell it would cross 170 million+ easy, everyone knows that. This is not even factoring in that Switch 1 has no price drops and even has a price increase. PS2 wouldn't even have sold 130 million in that case, it relied heavily on being massively discounted to sell those last few years. |
Is that really fair though? We are in a much bigger industry than the PS2 days. Popularity is not limited to who sales more. Here's a non gaming example; Michael Jackson vs Drake. Drake will most likely beat all MJ's achievements by the time he is done, but MJ is still more globally known and he's been dead for 10+ years.
EDIT: Another example is Michael Jordan vs Lebron James.


| Soundwave said: PS2's status as the "most popular console" is bullshit, largely, how can you can be the most "popular console" when another console has outsold you head to head for 8 years straight (lmao) and is *years* ahead in sales pace? The Switch is kicking the PS2's ass every year it gets to go head to head and that continues right to this day. Again this is like having two athletes, lets say two home run hitters, Player A (Switch) has outhit Player B (PS2) head to head in their prime years every year head to head. Not a single season has Player B managed to out hit Player A. Now Player A may retire after 10 years not because he can't keep playing, but because he wants to go home and be with his family. So Player B needs several extra years to catch up to Player A's pace. Player B (PS2) is no freaking way the better home run hitter in that case. No one would consider him so in the world of sports. The only reason the Switch 1 is not going to rout the PS2 is because Nintendo may call off the dogs and not give it a chance, but it's kicked the PS2's ass every year in sales. That's not "sour grapes" or "making excuses!!!", that's the facts. If the Switch 1 was allowed to sell through 2031, which would be the equivalent of how long the PS2 was allowed to sell it would cross 170 million+ easy, everyone knows that. This is not even factoring in that Switch 1 has no price drops and even has a price increase. PS2 wouldn't even have sold 130 million in that case, it relied heavily on being massively discounted to sell those last few years. |
I’m not trying to be mean or anything, but it really is not that serious. Regardless of whether of not Switch hits some arbitrary 160.63mil figure, it still stands that the system was a massive hit on par (at least as far as hardware units shipped is concerned) with PS2, and arguably is the most successful video game system of all time by literally every other metric.
Last edited by firebush03 - on 05 November 2025firebush03 said:
I’m not trying to be mean or anything, but it really is not that serious. Regardless of whether of not Switch hits some arbitrary 160.3mil figure, it still stands that the system was a massive hit on par (at least as far as hardware units shipped is concerned) with PS2, and arguably is the most successful video game system of all time by literally every other metric. |
PS2 is at 160.3? I thought it was higher??? I just saw this
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Xxain said:
Is that really fair though? We are in a much bigger industry than the PS2 days. Popularity is not limited to who sales more. Here's a non gaming example; Michael Jackson vs Drake. Drake will most likely beat all MJ's achievements by the time he is done, but MJ is still more globally known and he's been dead for 10+ years. EDIT: Another example is Michael Jordan vs Lebron James. |
Michael Jordan outscored LeBron James in a per game basis, and Jordan has 10 scoring titles, LeBron has 1 despite LeBron playing like 6 years more than Jordan. People consider Jordan the better scorer because he was the better scorer.
If there's an artist that comes out and blows out the sales numbers for Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, and Dangerous .... yes, they are bigger than Michael Jackson.
The Switch kicks the PS2's ass in sales at year 8 and has outsold the PS2 virtually its entire product cycle, which is not a short product cycle either skewed by a small sample size. We're talking 8 freaking years here already. Switch 1 could sell 170-180 million, everyone knows this too, if Nintendo allowed it to stay on store shelves and maybe even gave a price cut it would get there easy.
The only reason the PS2 is even in this race is because of a technicality ... it needs like 3-4 extra years to be able to match the sales the Switch 1 will end up with, which is laughable if you're the "more popular console". No you're not. The "most popular console" should never be *years* behind the sales pace of another system at year 6/7/8 ... no way. That's a full generation worth of sales, you shouldn't be getting your ass kicked by another system if you're really the "most popular".








PS2 is between 160 million and 160.63 million. There were 160,636,885 PS2s produced, while Sony announced PS2 sold over 160 million. Produced doesn't mean the number of units sold given there are consoles used store displays, so we don't know the exact number.
If Switch reaches 160.64 million lifetime that would mean it is number one without any asterisks needed.
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Xxain said:
Is that really fair though? We are in a much bigger industry than the PS2 days. Popularity is not limited to who sales more. Here's a non gaming example; Michael Jackson vs Drake. Drake will most likely beat all MJ's achievements by the time he is done, but MJ is still more globally known and he's been dead for 10+ years. EDIT: Another example is Michael Jordan vs Lebron James. |
Not really to be honest, the console industry has mainly maintained the same popularity for the past 25 years. The total consoles sold per gen between PS & Xbox has stayed the same since the PS2 era. Also in all of the primary areas where the Switch & PS2 were sold in, the overall population for each region barely went up and in some cases population dropped since 2000 like in Japan. In Europe or the U.S the population hasn't gone up significantly in since 2000.
Yea you could argue that is you include Nintendo into the consoles sold by gen that the console industry has gone up compared to before with stuff like the Gamecube. But that isnt necessarily due to new gamers going into the gaming industry, but rather many preexisting PS & Xbox gamers choosing to get the Switch as a secondary option or another console in general.
I mean, PS2 being the bestselling console ever and holding that title for 20+ years now should also show at least the console industry hasn't gone up much in popularity past 20 years. Its mainly just other areas like mobile gaming that's accelerating gaming popularity growth, not consoles
Not gonna lie I find it so funny seeing people so pissed about Sony raising the PS2 numbers and getting upset at the idea that Switch might not make it to number 1 lol. Like I get its cool to see a record broken but some people stressing about this way too much lol its just console sales, doesnt change anything in our lives at all lol. The Switch not making it to #1 doesnt change how great the system was and its legacy it brought .