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Came up in a discussion a bit ago that 


A: typically 80% of game sales on the Switch are 1st party. 

and


B: That PS5 can sell as many 3rd party games in a quarter as the Switch does in its entire lifespan. 

...Curious what would solve that, as I can't imagine that's a number anyone is anything more than satisfied with (I'm sure Nintendo wants more sales to get more platform kickback and obviously 3rd parties want to sell more). Is it a case of when the game releases (the Switch delay for even well selling Switch titles with multiple millions like Xenoverse 2 and FightersZ, a audience problem, a promotion problem from one end or the other, a graphical comparison problem, some other issue...

Is it like that Shawn L quote about how 1st party games shouldn't compete with 3rd party or whatever it was and thus a unavoidable problem? 



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

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3rd party games capable of looking and playing as well as they do on the PS5 is a good start.

Most will not like the thought of paying similar, if not the same price, for a game that is a compromised experience.



I think it has to do with the audience, to some degree.
However another reason might just be what G2ThaUNit said.

Its a side console in alot of cases, that people get, to play nintendo games.
If nintendo started putting their games on playstation and xbox, it would have a drastic effect on how many units (hardware) they sell.
simply because I think, theres more people that own a nintendo as a side peice, than with the other two.


"What would it take for 3rd party sales to be larger on Nintendo Systems?"

To deal with the issue that G2ThaUNit mentioned, it would require that Nintendo went back to a traditional console.
This would mean the end of the switch line. So it would come at a huge cost, and fly straight in the face of whats proven to work really well for them (blue ocean strat, ei. be something the others are not)

Also I think Nintendo is the only one of the 3, that actively views multiplats like competitors for game sales.
While Sony and Xbox, are like "nice free 30% cut", lets get all the multiplats.

Nintendo makes the system for themselves, their hardware is for their own games, f*** other developers and their cares.
Why would we want the competition for game sales? we make more selling our own games.  (the Wii U changed that abit, but its there, and the more successfull Nintendo is at its current strat, the less likely it is to change)

Thats why you hear stories about nintendo being hard to work with ect from devs.

While Sony actively goes out to talk to dev studios, and what they want and need in future consoles before even starting console hardware design ect.  They sent out dev kits and have people come and help, learn to use it and the programming and such.

So its also partly a mentality shift.

Xbox has the same issue as well to a degree.
Theres games that have been playstation exclusives because xbox guys couldn't bother responding to emails and issues devs have had.
"we re stuck at this problem, please write back"  *crickets*


Last edited by JRPGfan - on 05 November 2024

My real and unrealistic answer: when Nintendo platform can run games like my 4090.



Up to date hardware and a less casual user base. Maroity Switch owners are by far the most casual group in gaming. The Nintedo hardcore are pretty small comparatively to hardcore gamers on PS and even Xbox. This is why comparisons or saying Nintendo is dominating, don't make sense.



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"B: That PS5 can sell as many 3rd party games in a quarter as the Switch does in its entire lifespan. "

While that might be true.... ultimately what matters is just the total software sales.
And while PlayStation has higher software sales, its not by insane amounts.

Switch seems to have topped around 230m software sales pr year (it goes up and down)
While PS4+5 sales (sony lump them together), in the same time frame are like 300m+ at its peak (and seem abit more consistant than the Switch's software sales).

However if you factor in how much more first party sales Nintendo has.... and how much cheaper they make their games.
I bet you Nintendo is making more profit (if not revenue) on software sales, than Sony currently.



Chrkeller said:

My real and unrealistic answer: when Nintendo platform can run games like my 4090.

Did you buy Wu Kong yet? 



LegitHyperbole said:
Chrkeller said:

My real and unrealistic answer: when Nintendo platform can run games like my 4090.

Did you buy Wu Kong yet? 

Nah, just completed my DS2 run, need to finish Spiderman, then a DS3 run.  Then onto Wu Kung, maybe, could be silent hill 2.



Chrkeller said:
LegitHyperbole said:

Did you buy Wu Kong yet? 

Nah, just completed my DS2 run, need to finish Spiderman, then a DS3 run.  Then onto Wu Kung, maybe, could be silent hill 2.

Ah. Btw, what's your monitor? I was browsing some lately when I went to buy my PS5 and even the high priced ones seem unimpressive compared to a TV, very bad contrast and weka image quality the vast majority of them are curved now, which is a weird trend too. The only one that impressed me was an ultra wide one. Do you even have HDR?



LegitHyperbole said:
Chrkeller said:

Nah, just completed my DS2 run, need to finish Spiderman, then a DS3 run.  Then onto Wu Kung, maybe, could be silent hill 2.

Ah. Btw, what's your monitor? I was browsing some lately when I went to buy my PS5 and even the high priced ones seem unimpressive compared to a TV, very bad contrast and weka image quality the vast majority of them are curved now, which is a weird trend too. The only one that impressed me was an ultra wide one. Do you even have HDR?

No monitor.  HDMI from GPU to 55 inch LG OLED.  120 hz, so I can get 120 fps.