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Sonys imagine is becoming stained...

Yes. 74 66.07%
 
No. 38 33.93%
 
Total:112

The PS5 is nowhere near comparable to how bad the PS3 was.

Imagine multiplatform games running significantly worse despite the hardware advantage, PlayStation Network being 10x worse, popular third party games being exclusive to the competitors platform, on top of bombs like Lair and Haze? People are hating on Concord, but imagine watching Socom die in real time, because of a major network hack the week it launched. 

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 11 September 2024

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I'd like to see more consistency out of them. Some of their studios have been struggling with this live service push. Naughty Dog doesn't even have a new game announced for this generation now that Factions is canned.

That said, if a game like Concord is immediately followed up by a game like Astro Bot then I'll certainly take it.



I don't know. I was a real fanboy back in the PS3 days. I loved that console and just a few years before I switched from my GBA to the PSP because I didn't like the DS all that much. Those were great times, brilliant games were releasing left and right and I couldn't afford to play them all. Gaming on PlayStation never got boring.

Nowadays I have way more disposable income, but what I am missing on PS5 are games that really interest me. Maybe it's me getting older and having less free time for gaming. But I just don't find anything I am really interested to play. Let alone something that would be exclusive for PS5. The console is sitting here and I barely ever use it. I mostly play on Switch these days. It's not like there are no more good games at all. Especially Indies still please me. But those games run fine in Switch, why the hell would I want to waste 200-300 watts to play something like that on the PS5?

And even if there is a graphically demanding game, I still get disappointed by the console. I browsed the PlayStation Store the other day, desperately wanting to find somwething I could play. So I stumbled across Kingdom Come: Deliverance and bought that game for 5 Euros or something. Only to find that it runs like dogshit. I know it's a PS4 game and all that probably didn't get a next-gen patch. But that gets me straight to the PS5 Pro. Why would I need that extra power if only a handful of games get to use it anyway?

I decided to get Kingdom Come on Steam, and now I am playing it in buttery smooth 60 fps. On my Lenovo Legion Go, so not even a high-end PC, but just some little handheld device. Which is even cheaper than the PS5 Pro. It's quite ridiculous. I don't want to say that everything is terrible with PlayStation these days and I'm sure many people enjoy the living crap out of the platform. But it sure feels different than 20 years ago.



Official member of VGC's Nintendo family, approved by the one and only RolStoppable. I feel honored.

I hate what's happening with the PS5 and the industry at large, but I just don't have enough information on how much it's costing Sony to produce these consoles and maintain the ecosystem. Sony isn't making particularly large profits off Playstation even though the platform is the revenue leader. So I really don't have any strong opinions here, I'm just disappointed.



I am more disappointed that the PS5 pro has no disc drivee than an other failures the a have had. No idea on the logic to that one.



 

 

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I know that this is wasted time but let's try and explain a little of what is wrong with the initial statement:

GaaS failures: When Jim Ryan took the job as CEO his vision was to push the service dream, Sony had the plan to release service games since before the pandemic, the plan was to release 10+ by 2027. Thanks to the money Bungie made them lose they ended that plan and Ryan "retired". Many people act like the service thing is new or is the new reality or is what is going to be in the future when what is actually happening is a transition from plan to plan. Concord IS A BAD GAME but it's a residue of the last administration that was already paid and almost finished.

Helldivers 2 as much as people want to talk like it failed it is a HUGE success that made 1200% the money they were expecting, the same way Grand Turismo 7 was very close to be the most profitable in franchise history last year. I wouldn't like to include The Final Shape because that was something Bungie was already working on but if people count Lightfall failure as a Sony failure then The Final Shape success is also a Sony success.

PRO pricing: The pro isn't the ps6, you DON'T need the pro to play ps5 games. The product was made to be expensive that's why its called PRO, it's exactly the same situation with the increase of pricing in Japan, people act like it's just a random number someone decided to put there. The ps5 was $700 when it released in my country, the ps4 pro was $600 when the price in the USA was $400. Every economy is different, every economy has their own pricing, that's why the PS5 vanilla is 1200+ dollars in Argentina.

The barren exclusives: Barren exclusives? Lol dude ... people who buy PS games do it because they think those games are awesome. It's ok if you don't like them but if you can't respect others preferences then you shouldn't be talking about PS. On the other side if you are talking about the amount of PS Studios games out there do people already forgot that the generation started in the middle of a pandemic? We are talking 300 million projects from studios that weren't ready to work from home, do people really expected for everything to go smoothly without delays? Well it shouldn't be a surprise but EVERYTHING was delayed.

Games going to PC, some day one: PS Studios games are on PC since 2015 so this is a little too late to ask but how exactly that "stains" the brand? People were expecting for PS to be Nintendo? Oh yeah but then they decide to not port games like Bloodborne to pc and people also talk shit lol. "Ningún chile les embona" people would say in my country.

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Soundwave said:
V-r0cK said:

Nope, especially compared to their competitor(s).

PS5 Pro might be expensive to many but there is still the slim PS5 that you can choose to buy at a more affordable price. Not sure why so many are acting like this PS5 Pro is like the beginning of a new console generation and that it's already over for Sony.

People better get used to that pricing range. If they think they're getting a PS6 for substantially cheaper a few years down the line, lol, they probably have another thing coming. 

They are banking on PRO selling less than the old PRO cause it lacks that 4k bump and has no definition as hard as they try to market the big three features fuck all people are going to see that as reason even at 599 or the current PS5 price point. If they thought it'd sell more they'd eat some of the cost, they want the whale money that they got from the portal and stuff like the elite controller, nothing more. They'll eat the cost on ps6 same as every generation or they'll only have whales buying them and they won't sell software where they make that money back plus profit. That's all this is, no sign of the future. 

If what you say were to come to be and for the cbox too, then the industry will look a lot different. Nintendo will control the console market. Big AAA machines will stall and possibly die. It'll be PC + Nintendo and there won't be enough people buying in to PS/Xbox for them to make big profits on their software cut to continue existing in the space as a hardware manufacturer. They'll be two very big publishing companies. I suppose this is happening to MS right now so perhaps, maybe.... quite possibly you may be right.  



OdinHades said:

I don't know. I was a real fanboy back in the PS3 days. I loved that console and just a few years before I switched from my GBA to the PSP because I didn't like the DS all that much. Those were great times, brilliant games were releasing left and right and I couldn't afford to play them all. Gaming on PlayStation never got boring.

Nowadays I have way more disposable income, but what I am missing on PS5 are games that really interest me. Maybe it's me getting older and having less free time for gaming. But I just don't find anything I am really interested to play. Let alone something that would be exclusive for PS5. The console is sitting here and I barely ever use it. I mostly play on Switch these days. It's not like there are no more good games at all. Especially Indies still please me. But those games run fine in Switch, why the hell would I want to waste 200-300 watts to play something like that on the PS5?

And even if there is a graphically demanding game, I still get disappointed by the console. I browsed the PlayStation Store the other day, desperately wanting to find somwething I could play. So I stumbled across Kingdom Come: Deliverance and bought that game for 5 Euros or something. Only to find that it runs like dogshit. I know it's a PS4 game and all that probably didn't get a next-gen patch. But that gets me straight to the PS5 Pro. Why would I need that extra power if only a handful of games get to use it anyway?

I decided to get Kingdom Come on Steam, and now I am playing it in buttery smooth 60 fps. On my Lenovo Legion Go, so not even a high-end PC, but just some little handheld device. Which is even cheaper than the PS5 Pro. It's quite ridiculous. I don't want to say that everything is terrible with PlayStation these days and I'm sure many people enjoy the living crap out of the platform. But it sure feels different than 20 years ago.

Nah, it's not you getting older. Everyone is saying the same. I'm here on my PS4 PRO waiting still and I can count the software reasons to upgrade on one hand with the only true defining reason on one finger in Baldurs Gate 3. 

If you're lucky enough to be on high end PC good for you man. That's where I'd be now if I could afford it. 



I don't know. They have certainly taken huge missteps lately, diverting resources and attention to the GaaS model at the expense of their single player identity. And they are cranking up prices of things left and right. But has their image truly suffered? I don't think so, not yet. However, they need to get their shit together right now and show us that they still have their old strength in what they are good at.



I think a lot of their decisions in the PS5 era have been bad. What comes to mind:

$10 upgrades for PS4 version games to PS5 (Xbox was free, 1 copy everywhere)
Huge amounts of money invested in live service titles (Helldiver 2 paid off, others remain to be seen)
Price increases for the console and accessories
Huge PS Plus price increase