Hey JD Vance, how do you feel about Trump getting chummy with a massive racist?

JD: Well, uh, you know, the thing is, hey did you hear about the Democrats letting in all those migrants, they're eating all the dogs, they're eating all the cats, you know what I'm angry about? I'm angry about Democrats destroying this country!

He's a pathetic little man like the rest of them, Lol.

Speaking of deadly diseases the listeria outbreak recently took 9 lives. During Trumps presidency he deregulated the pork market when it comes to inspections and now the company causing the listeria outbreak is now forming a council for inspections and food safety. idk why Harris isnt running ads on this. 

This is actually hilarious lmaoo.

https://x.com/kirawontmiss/status/1834749242990031067

Would you look at that - more Trump derangement.  You know, for people who hate "sandwich A" so much, you sure do like talking about it.

Now, back to my statement: I've found it difficult to meet one American that says they're having a better time over the last four years verses the prior four. You didn't address this, many leftists don't either.  

When I ask why they'd vote for Kamala, there's lots of platitudes(check) and diverting(check), before finally falling on "Trump's just x."(check) No policy they like or often even know about the candidate chosen for them, no honest fandom for their candidate, no moral reasoning for their candidate. They just hate the other guy.(check, check, check) 

I see this continues to be the case on these forums.  How disappointing.

Hey Weincom look, someone else who hates sandwich A talking about sandwich A!  Again!  At least they actually shared some policy this time.

So 1. the potential for a progressive supreme court, 2. federal abortion rights and 3. IDRs. In other words - control, hedonism and free stuff.  Doesn't sound very American to me but I'm digressing.

1. Is there hard evidence to a better country under a progressive ruling supreme court? Compared to what?

2. Why ought we prescribe federal abortion freedom when America is far below replacement rate?

3. At what cost?  Is there a number on the lack of accountability?

But isn’t that true in a sense? Covid was the catalyst, without it you don’t get the economy shutting down which means you don’t get trillions in stimulus/safety net spending or the supply chain disruptions or widespread labor shortages which means you don’t get a surge in inflation when things open back up which means you don’t get a massive increase in interest rates or corporations using inflation as a cover to raise prices beyond what was necessary.

As for your original statement about people saying they were better off 4 years ago, people are stupid and don’t know what they are talking about. 4 years ago was 2020, we were in the worst pandemic in over a century which killed millions of people and forced the economy to shutdown. People had to quarantine, people lost their jobs, businesses closed down, kids couldn’t go to school, poverty increased, food insecurity increased, crime increased. It was also the year of George Floyd protests/riots, the most significant civil unrest since the 60s. How were people better off four years ago?

Asking for specific policies so that you can be snippy and dismissive about it. Wow.....shocker. 

1. More progressive supreme court tends to do things I agree with. For instance the progressives were against presidential criminal immunity and would have left roe v wade in tact. 

2. I value freedom over natalism. Just like I think it's ok that people can use contraception even if we're far below replacement rate. You want people to have more kids figure out how to convince them to do so other than taking away their freedom to not have them. 

3. I specified the SAVE plan. Google it and we can talk about it. Save me the platitudes. 

Any policies on the other end you like or is this just a way for you to be shitty about what other people are trying to accomplish?

Also, you mention "no moral reasoning for their candidate". What do you call saying that the other person is immoral so you want Kamala? Sounds like moral reasoning to me. One can hate Trump and still have perfectly valid reasons not to want him to be president again outside of that hatred. Like that he tried to ignore the results of the 2020 election and stay in power anyway. Can you pretend for a second you actually give a shit about any of these discussions and contend with what Trump did connected to Jan 6th? Why isn't that a good enough reason not to want to vote for him even if the price of grapes is higher? 

While I will concede that most of inflation is covid related in some form including most of your examples, Putin invading Ukraine and America's open border are not.

That would be a great retort if that was my original statement.  

Literally the first sentence.

You couldn't even be bothered to look at it before sperging about how stupid people are.

You're ridiculous, you keep ignoring the covid caused inflation.  That is the only reason people don't feel better than they did 4 years ago.  It doesn't matter if it was Obama, Trump, or Biden, my stocks increased substantially under all 3.  Covid happened under Trump, the lock downs, no toilet paper and all that pure hell and that was under Trump.  Your damn right my life is significantly better than it was 4 years ago today when we couldn't find toilet paper, and million of Americans died.  Millions of American families no longer speak to each other, parents and their kids just broke up over Trumps complete control over them and the lack of empathy that parents all of a sudden had.  Republicans refused to seat a supreme court member for a whole year during Obama's last year because republicans controlled the Senate and said the new president deserved to seat them.  The same thing happened to Trump a few months before the election and the same republican controlled senate said screw you Democrats we are seating a supreme court justice in the next few months.  The Supreme court justice Trump installed took away Roe vs Wade.  Without Trump Roe vs Wade doesn't get overturned.  Since getting overturned states are making abortion illegal, and women are bleeding to death because it is illegal to get an abortion now in all case even if they were raped or if the baby isn't gong to survive and it will kill the mother.  Worse the states will arrest you if you try to go to another state to get an abortion.  Million and millions of Americans hate each other now, and it's because of Trump.  The peace of mind Biden provided to everyone's mental health is absolutely better than it was under Trump.  Under Trump these racists maga's felt emboldened to beat up random Asian people or immigrants on the street like they did when Trump.  That died down while Biden lead us.  Under Trump, thousands of his minions decided to storm the capital and try to install Trump as the president illegally.  Trump lied about an election he lost by 8 some million votes, and tried his best to steal the election/job 81 million Americans fired him from.  Is America better off than it was 4 years ago, 100% in every single way except the increase in costs that you see everywhere...everywhere not just America!

I'm happy to engage with this, not trying to be dismissive.  Sorry you feel that way.

1&2. I hope you don't mind but I'm combining these as they mostly refer to the same end.  First, would you say you're anti-natalist? Second, if contraception is fine and we have more reliable means of it than ever, why are we fighting for the most barbaric, monstrous form of it? It's not being snippy, it hedonism. Third, is the freedom of the baby we're aborting less valuable than the mothers?  Because that would be very dangerous rhetoric.  

3. You would agree with me that SAVE is an IDR correct?  And it has a cost attached to it correct?  I'm not sure what you want from me here.