2024 US Presidential Election

[IkePoR]

JWeinCom said:

IkePoR said:

Torillian said:

I can answer that question. Yes inflation has gotten worse, but I don't trust someone who wouldn't let go of power and still can't agree he lost. 

Your answer is literally the same, Trump is x.

 It's like if you were at a restaurant and you had to eat one of two sandwiches. The waiter tells you sandwich A is covered in arsenic and sandwich B does not contain any lethal or dangerous poisons. Naturally, people with common sense will choose sandwich B, without having to know anything more.

Then someone comes along and says, "Wow, I can't believe all of these people are eating sandwich B. They don't even know what kind of cheese is on sandwich B or how many calories are in it. Sociologists should really study why all of these people are eating sandwich B. Der her her."

Not that I couldn't point to specific policies I approve of, which I might do if you could point all of Trump's great policies, but the fact that Trump tried to end democracy in America is a pretty damn good reason to vote for a candidate who has not tried to end American democracy (and also he promotes racist conspiracy theories, joked about how Epstein who is a great guy according to Trump likes women on the young side, was found liable for sexual assault and subsequent defamation of his victim, is a convicted felon, shared classified US documents, is a pathological liar, etc etc). Please explain the flaw in that viewpoint. 

Would you look at that - more Trump derangement.  You know, for people who hate "sandwich A" so much, you sure do like talking about it.

Now, back to my statement: I've found it difficult to meet one American that says they're having a better time over the last four years verses the prior four. You didn't address this, many leftists don't either.  

When I ask why they'd vote for Kamala, there's lots of platitudes(check) and diverting(check), before finally falling on "Trump's just x."(check) No policy they like or often even know about the candidate chosen for them, no honest fandom for their candidate, no moral reasoning for their candidate. They just hate the other guy.(check, check, check) 

I see this continues to be the case on these forums.  How disappointing.

Torillian said:

IkePoR said:

Their original claim presumed inflation was only because of covid, I addressed it in my last post  here

Torillian said:

I can answer that question. Yes inflation has gotten worse, but I don't trust someone who wouldn't let go of power and still can't agree he lost. 

Your answer is literally the same, Trump is x.

When you have a choice between two options then it is perfectly reasonable to make your choice based on avoiding the more poor option. If you want me to go over what I like about progressive policies: I'm voting Kamala so that if someone leaves the supreme court a progressive is there to pick a replacement, I'm also voting for someone that will push for abortion rights on the federal stage and wants to continue Biden's work on student loan restructuring like the SAVE plan. When the choice is between a threat to democracy and a standard politician who largely agrees with my left leaning point of view then the choice is crazy simple. 

Hey Weincom look, someone else who hates sandwich A talking about sandwich A!  Again!  At least they actually shared some policy this time.

So 1. the potential for a progressive supreme court, 2. federal abortion rights and 3. IDRs. In other words - control, hedonism and free stuff.  Doesn't sound very American to me but I'm digressing.

1. Is there hard evidence to a better country under a progressive ruling supreme court? Compared to what?

2. Why ought we prescribe federal abortion freedom when America is far below replacement rate?

3. At what cost?  Is there a number on the lack of accountability?