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Well said, Chrkeller, well said.

Chrkeller said:

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Final results.......

Bottom line: Kamala could not add a single Electoral College vote to her "guaranteed" 226 from the start of her Presidential run.

All that campaigning she did, for the last few months, was for nothing.



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EricHiggin said:

Trump vs Kamala is misogyny? Wait what?

Nope. The divorce didn't happen until after Kamala.

Did Kamala Harris Have an Extramarital Affair with Willie Brown That Boosted Her Career? | Snopes.com

Posts Mislead About Harris' Romance with Willie Brown - FactCheck.org

Nowhere near enough solid competent research had been done by the time Kamala got the vax, not even 14, yet she took it anyway. Why?

But hey, Biden also took the vax the same week Kamala did, and he also said he wouldn't take the Trump vax. Is this misandry, or elderlyandry?

Lots of misogyny and misandry going around these days, apparently.

There was no divorce whatsoever. They had been *separated* for over 40 years, despite never filing any divorce paper work. 

Plenty of research was done on the vaccines, whether you believe or not. They went through clinical trials, among other things. 

The Covid part has nothing to do with misogyny. All the assumptions about her relationship stuff and blaming her for ruining someone else's marriage, could definitely be viewed as misogynistic. 



BFR said:

Wow, who would have thunk a few months before now.....

BFR said:

Well said, Chrkeller, well said.

Chrkeller said:

(From Page 2 of this thread, 3rd post)

Final results.......

Bottom line: Kamala could not add a single Electoral College vote to her "guaranteed" 226 from the start of her Presidential run.

All that campaigning she did, for the last few months, was for nothing.

I did personally. I would've been damn close to the overall result. I admittedly didn't post anything though knowing how it's almost always received and then swarmed.

Apparently Chrkeller dealt with that, so gotta give them props for the levelheaded guess, the post, and taking the flak.



the-pi-guy said:
EricHiggin said:

Trump vs Kamala is misogyny? Wait what?

Nope. The divorce didn't happen until after Kamala.

Did Kamala Harris Have an Extramarital Affair with Willie Brown That Boosted Her Career? | Snopes.com

Posts Mislead About Harris' Romance with Willie Brown - FactCheck.org

Nowhere near enough solid competent research had been done by the time Kamala got the vax, not even 14, yet she took it anyway. Why?

But hey, Biden also took the vax the same week Kamala did, and he also said he wouldn't take the Trump vax. Is this misandry, or elderlyandry?

Lots of misogyny and misandry going around these days, apparently.

There was no divorce whatsoever. They had been *separated* for over 40 years, despite never filing any divorce paper work. 

Plenty of research was done on the vaccines, whether you believe or not. They went through clinical trials, among other things. 

The Covid part has nothing to do with misogyny. All the assumptions about her relationship stuff and blaming her for ruining someone else's marriage, could definitely be viewed as misogynistic. 

“I don’t know whether the marriage failed and the relationship survived or vice versa, but something very valuable lasted,” Brown wrote in his own 2008 autobiography, explaining that he and his wife had celebrated their 50th anniversary in 2007, although they hadn’t lived together in 25 years. So, they're divorced, but not divorced then?

Plenty of research? The medical professionals, especially Fauci were saying a vax wouldn't be ready for at least 4 years. It was ready in less than 1 year. MNRA isn't designed to be used in the manner it was. So no, there was not plenty of research done. All the heart problems since should be another clear indicator.

Assuming I was being misogynistic when I was clearly just making a Trump vs Kamala point could be viewed as misandry. Is that the case?



Mnementh said:
Radek said:

I have seen so many women film their meltdowns on X and Tik Tok, crying, shaving heads, saying no more sex for 4 years, threatining to kill Trump suppoters, even people who work in academia threatining to kill others, it's absolutely vile.

Just one example I found yesterday. This woman says she’s purchasing a gun so she can go shoot White men in the streets https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1854660577727037819

Social media elevates the crazies on all sides, because crazy and extreme makes for more views and so for more ad money, so the algorithms promote it. I don't deny these people exist, we just should stop taking them too seriously.

Gotta be careful with this, because all it takes is a kid or teen throwing a political fit on social, threatening violence (at school), then actually following through.

On one hand people do need to chill, but on the other, they need to be cautiously vigilant.



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@BFR and EricHiggin, I appreciate the kind words and support.

For those interested, I thought this was an interesting video.

https://youtu.be/jzLmznS91kM?si=HoMK3JWcuWxx7n2H



You da man Chr, you da man !!!



sc94597 said:

Yep, pretty much. This is a chart I made a few years ago, and it still pretty much applies. 

The Democratic Party is mostly a centrist party, especially on economics. Maybe less so on cultural issues. 

Culture and politics are intertwined. Having a handle on politics but not the culture isn't enough. Having a handle on the culture but not politics isn't enough. You need enough of both, and preferably a decent balance between the two. Having a strong handle on both would be golden age level leadership.



jason1637 said:
BFR said:

Trans men should not be playing in women's sports. It is that simple.

Agreed. Trans Women should be able to play in women's sports.

Do trans woman not take anything that might give them an advantage over the rest of the woman?

Even if they don't or it doesn't give them an advantage, there's the locker room problem, as well as trans men problem. 

Do we force building extra change rooms for trans woman, and do we start separate trans men leagues? What if some trans woman wanted that too?



sundin13 said:

I just want to say for the record, I firmly believe that every single person who voted for Donald Trump is either evil or stupid.

That is all.

Believe it or not, voters have valid reasons to vote for Trump over Harris, and they're certainly not "evil" or "stupid" for choosing him.

For one, the Biden administration could've left Trump's immigration policies alone since they kept illegal border crossings under control, but instead, they were thrown away, creating a spike in illegal border crossings in the process. When concerns were expressed, the administration dismissed them by insisting "The border is closed. The border is secure," despite video evidence contradicting that claim. They didn't seem to care about it until it was election year. Sure, the House Republicans shut down that bipartisan bill, but the Biden administration should've taken action when the issue got out of control.

The other issue is that when inflation started to tick up in Biden's first year, the Fed initially dismissed it as "transitory". They didn't take action until some time after they realized they were wrong. While I give them credit for being cautious before reducing interest rates after inflation got under control, I think they should've started increasing interest rates sooner to control inflation.

Lastly, the Democratic party has not been helping themselves at all. They think insulting people by calling them names like garbage, being poorly educated, and stuff like that for not supporting them will help them get voters when, in reality, it doesn't. Instead, it alienates them, pushing potential voters away from them and bringing them to the Republican party.

If they want to get voters back on their side, they need to stop alienating them, stop dismissing their concerns, and start listening to them, because if they keep up with their current rhetoric, they'll lose more seats in the House and the Senate, and even potentially lose more states to the Republican party.