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I sometimes like to play some Diablo II PVP every once in a while, but on Vista it has some serious color issues and portions of the screen are garbled, I need to minimize the window and maximize it again to fix it.

Let me also mention I am using an HP Laptop with an AMD Turion x2 Dual Core, Decent NVidia 7150M card and i upgraded it to 4GB of Ram. If I try to use the Sidebar feature the whole OS slows down bad the Laptop heats up pretty bad from working so hard.

This OS is horrible and the recent Service pack didn't help for shit.

Very bad times for PC's... very bad times. I wanna dual boot, but it seems useless at this point plus it would screw up my Quickplay Touch Buttons.

To make matters worse, I later found out I couldn't dual boot anyways. The NVidia GeForce Go 7150M card they gave me is Vista only. I couldn't change OS even if I wanted to.



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I am so glad I quit being a PC gamer. I don't have to worry about this sort of thing.



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Wow, just when I thought MS could not make a worse faux pas with the PC gamers and Windows service...
In the first tests of Vista, compatability tests showed that 30 of the 50 most common desktop prorams did not work on it and the "gaming Windows" churned out considerably less performance in all games that were tested (we're talking 20% less framerate and, unsurprisingly for the tech savvy, a lot less available system memory to toy with ingame).
Across the line, there was no area in which the Vista improved upon XP and reliability and stability were among those.
What's the use? An entire OS just for DX10? Grow up, please, dear programmers.



Aren't MS releasing new OS 2010 anyway?

XP is all i need for now. It's stability really impresses me, and it's working without lots of complaints.



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Squilliam said:
um, vista/xp are the same speed at the same settings. So its not an issue, in fact sometimes Vista is faster on the same machine!

 You need to stop smoking whatever you are smoking, anybody worth their salt in PC gaming will tell you once you upgrade to Vista you will get slower speed than XP.  Vista itself requires more resources to run....says it right on the box.....



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Auron said:
sc94597 said:
I like vista better for gaming , because of DX10.

 That's great and all but not all games are compatible with Vista....

 
Sqrl said:
sc94597 said:
I like vista better for gaming , because of DX10.

 You like slower framerates on the same settings?


@Euphoria14

What the fuck are you guys talking about? LOL When I first ran FFXI on Vista, it runs AMAZINGLY well. I have no problems whatsoever, no slow-down, no heating up (the only heating up I get is with virus scanning, and that's IT), no lag etc. Just update your graphics drivers, use Clean Disk to remove temporary files, defragment your hard drive and what not, but mainly just keep your laptop/computer up-to-date.

I have Vista Home Premium, 2 gigs of RAM, NVidia GeForce 8400M GS with 128MB and 200GB hard drive (will get a desktop expansion with 400GB hard drive this summer for $390 as a combo, possibly another 2 gigs of RAM for a total of $610; don't worry, I can make almost $500 for working 2 weeks at a DAYCARE lmao That is if I don't spend it ). Like I said, my computer can run FFXI flawlessly. The ONLY problem I had to play the game on my once-new Vista computer was that on S-E's FFXI website, you had to download their Vista-compatible PlayOnline viewer.

EDIT: Oh, and it's an HP laptop brand. I also have no issues whatsoever with the OS. The ONLY issue that started is with the first service pack, that one of the updates before I installed it conflicts with Explorer and causes my desktop screen to not load when I boot or restart my computer. All I have to do is open Task Manager and Run Task for "Explorer," and then everything comes up. I had that Task Manager help from when I took my laptop to Best Buy's Geek Squad and one of the guys just did "Run Explorer," and everything was fixed. All I have to worry about is when Microsoft is going to fix it, or I may have to email them about it... Oh, and I have NO SLOW-DOWN WHATSOEVER with any other applications. I just wish my damn Sonic the Hedgehog CD (the PC version of the Sega CD console game) would work on Vista (didn't on XP either; only Windows 98 lol). The sad thing is that my Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles CD works on Vista, but not Sonic CD



Naraku_Diabolos said:
Auron said:
sc94597 said:
I like vista better for gaming , because of DX10.

That's great and all but not all games are compatible with Vista....

Sqrl said:
sc94597 said:
I like vista better for gaming , because of DX10.

You like slower framerates on the same settings?


@Euphoria14

What the fuck are you guys talking about? LOL When I first ran FFXI on Vista, it runs AMAZINGLY well. I have no problems whatsoever, no slow-down, no heating up (the only heating up I get is with virus scanning, and that's IT), no lag etc. Just update your graphics drivers, use Clean Disk to remove temporary files, defragment your hard drive and what not, but mainly just keep your laptop/computer up-to-date.

I have Vista Home Premium, 2 gigs of RAM, NVidia GeForce 8400M GS with 128MB and 200GB hard drive (will get a desktop expansion with 400GB hard drive this summer for $390 as a combo, possibly another 2 gigs of RAM for a total of $610; don't worry, I can make almost $500 for working 2 weeks at a DAYCARE lmao That is if I don't spend it ). Like I said, my computer can run FFXI flawlessly. The ONLY problem I had to play the game on my once-new Vista computer was that on S-E's FFXI website, you had to download their Vista-compatible PlayOnline viewer.


 I never said it runs slow on Vista.  I said it runs slower than XP on the same machine. 



@Naraku

FFXI requires 128MB of RAM, of course it will run fine on Vista. However take a game like Bioshock which has a recommended 2GB of RAM and you run into issues due to the operating system hogging a crapload of RAM for itself.

Basically anything that you can run averagely on Vista you will be able to run better on XP.



@Naraku: I don't think the FFXI is the most resource eating game, besides, from your 2G RAM, you have only around 1,2G to use after Vista, depending on what programs are running background.

I don't play with my PC, but i'm currently practically forced to use Vista (until i have the time to test will Ubuntu 8.04 support my graphics card), which is extremely heavy and resource wasting OS.



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Nobody's saying gaming sucks on Vista.

But compared to XP? Yeah, it kinda does.
Framerates are a little better on XP, and yeah, only a little better...but why bother sacrificing any of your framerates? DX10? It's not that great. In a year or so I think we'll have better games to force us to use Vista, but right now there's really no reason. You can tweak games like Crysis to look EXACTLY like DX10 while using DX9.

Not to mention compatibility with older games like Windows 95 compatible games. A lot of them simply won't work on Vista, and that's just stupid.



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