Yes, and even if we assume Digital Foundry's more conservative (compared this thread's rumor) performance estimates that is still top-end for 2024 gaming handhelds, and would be middling for 2025 gaming handhelds. 

Sure, gaming handhelds released after the Switch 2 for the same or more MSRP will outperform it. Were you expecting something else? 

Middling for 2025 (when it releases) is by definition not "very dated". 

We were expecting t239 in switch pro almost 2-3 years ago, sure it doesn't look very dated when compared to the competition but the reality is no one is selling over 100 million units with a handheld gaming device but the tech in switch 2 if it indeed is a t239 is very dated at this point. 

It will probably run slightly better than in the DF video projection.
its still going to be a big jump up compaired to the current switch.

If the point of reference is comparing it to hand-held released 1.5 years previous (which lack scale to get better component prices), then yeah, it´s OK to call it a bit dated. There´s just no reason not to compare it to new products releasing in the same year, if it wants to target lower performance niche, OK but no need to deflect from that. Now sure, that may be a relative advancement for Nintendo compared to the Switch, but still not an example of aiming for best price:performance to last a generation.

IMHO they would be better off keeping the screen for hand-held mode in 720p but having a system stronger in other ways, which can more adequately scale to 1080p. Seems likely that the large majority of games will be using upscaling to hit 1080p, so the logic for having a higher resolution for the hand-held screen seems dubious. That´s just going to make ports easier, rather than be in some uncanny valley where people expect widespread PS4 or even XS ports, but that ends up a tough job for devs.

No doubt a huge jump but honestly expected to see these specs since late 2022 or mid 2023, so switch 2 having these specs just seems very dated to me, especially since this is coming out in mid or late 2025.

I don't see why it matters that it is using an Ampere-Lovelace hybrid chip if it is going to perform roughly on par with other mid-ranged gaming handhelds at the point in which it releases.  Especially if it has a process-node shrink (either to TSMC N7 or N5 from Sammy 8LPP.) 

Orin chips themselves were announced in 2019 and weren't commercially available until last year. 

If there were a gaming handheld with a full Lovelace or Blackwell GPU releasing in the near-future you'd have a point, but there isn't.  

So basically it is a distinction without a difference.

I don't even understand what's the point of calling this thing "very outdated" since EVERY console is outdated when it releases, they always use tech from a few years back. The PS5/Series X are both outdated at this point. There's PC parts that launched 1-2 years after their releases that were more powerful than both. So what?

It depends how you look at it because within a year this will likely be very dated hardware for handheld device feel like like this should have come out in  late 2023 or early 2024. in late 2025 it's not even much better then the steam deck. 

I think the point is for the people that actually care about power been expecting to see the switch pro with these specs years ago, no one in their  right mind expected 10-12 teraflop console in 2018-2019 and people were actually very happy about the specs of ps5 and series x when revealed. we been hearing rumors of a pro with a T239 and expecting in late 2022, it was basically all but confirmed by sources.

Again, if it is roughly comparably performant to the average gaming handheld device upon its release, it isn't "very dated." 

The fact that a Steam Deck 2 might come out to outperform it in 2026, doesn't change that. Every single piece of computer hardware released has been outdated a year from its release date. 

When the PS5/Series X released they were comparable to a mid-end gaming computer. The fact that the RTX 3090 released more than a month earlier doesn't make them "very outdated." Consoles are mid-ranged platforms of their form-factor at the date in which they release. Always have been since the invention of dedicated GPU's, always will be.