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Moving the discussion here from the US Politics thread.

This war sadly looks to still keep going for months with the repercussions likely lasting for generations, while the threat of escalation to a full scale regional war comes closer day by day.

- 1800s Rise of anti-semitism in Europe
- 1897 Zionism created
- 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement
- 1917 Balfour declaration
- 1933 Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party come to power, start of the Holocaust
- 1938 Kristallnacht, series of pogroms against the Jewish population in Germany and recently incorporated territories
- 1941 - 1945 Holocaust becomes the genocide of 6 million Jews (as well as about 500 thousand from other minorities)
- 1947 UN Partition Plan for Palestine
- 1948 Nakba displacement of 750 thousand Palestinian Arabs (50% of the population at the time)
- 1967 6 day war second exodus of Palestinians, estimated at half a million
- 1967 Following the 6 day war Neo-Zionism appears, a right wing nationalistic interpretation of Zionism fully supporting Settler Colonialism
- 1973 Yom Kippur War, also known as the Ramadan War
- 1982 Israel invasion of Lebanon
- 1987 Mass uprising, First Intifada, Hamas creation
- 1993 Oslo Accords and the fallout
- 2000 Camp David summit followed by the Second Intifada
- 2005 Ceasefire and withdrawal of military forces from Gaza
- 2007 Hamas takes control of Gaza, Fatah-Hamas conflict, Israel imposes blockade
- 2008 Operation Cast Lead, the war on Gaza and the fallout
- 2012 8 Day assault on Gaza
- 2014 50 Day Gaza war Operation Protective Edge leading to 2251 casualties (including 551 children and 299 women)
- 2018 Border protests, 190 killed 28 thousand wounded
- 2019 Operation Black Belt
- 2021 Completion of Gaza-Israel barrier, clashes over Al Aqsa Mosque
- 2022 Netanyahu comes back in power while under corruption charges, deadliest year since 2014
- 2023 Israel turns 75 in May, Operation Shield and Arrow follows, Countdown to Genocide, what led up to the October 7 attacks

October 7 attacks, Hamas breaks through the security fence and goes on a mass murder spree while taking hostages

Israel responds by launching a full scale war of systematic destruction in Gaza.

History of Political control

Deep dive into the formation of Israel, the major turning points and how the PA is nothing but an oppression tool.

How Israel was created

Israel’s founding father, David Ben-Gurion, proclaimed the modern state of Israel on May 14, 1948, a day before the scheduled end of British rule, establishing a safe haven for Jews fleeing persecution and seeking a national home on land to which they cite ties dating to antiquity.

Current situation

Destruction of Gaza as of May 2024

The ongoing tragedy on the Israeli side

The Tragedy of Israel's 135,000 Displaced Citizens

The impact of the October 7 attacks continues to be felt across Israel

Next to still having little to no knowledge about the 135 remaining hostages, of which over 30 are believed to have died already.

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Couple copied posts, recap from December 31st

Older posts start here

‘Gaza has been destroyed… we have nowhere to live’

Displaced Palestinians found little to celebrate on New Year’s Eve in Muwasi, a makeshift camp in the mostly undeveloped area of southern Gaza’s Mediterranean coast designated by Israel as “a safe zone”.

“From the intensity of the pain we live, we do not feel that there is a new year,” said Kamal al-Zeinaty, huddled with his family around a fire inside a tent. “All the days are the same.” Another relative, Zeyad al-Zeinaty, who fled with his family from the Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza, said his wife, brother and grandchildren are among many relatives he lost in the war.

A video published by the Red Crescent showed the chaotic aftermath of strikes in central Gaza as rescuers worked in the dark to carry an injured child from smoking rubble. As the year drew to a close, Palestinians in Gaza were praying for a ceasefire, but had little optimism that 2024 would be better.

“Gaza has been destroyed and we have nowhere to live. But we just want to stop hearing the sounds of planes and drones, for children to stop being afraid, and for us and our loved ones, those who are left, to meet again,” said Suzan Khader in Rafah.

Dark night in Gaza as 2024 begins

Barrage of rockets fired towards Israeli cities

With the new year beginning, Palestinian armed groups have launched a salvo of long-range missiles towards Israeli cities.

Sirens sounded throughout Israel warning of rockets flying over Tel Aviv, Gush Dan and the Gaza periphery. More than 20 missiles were fired towards Tel Aviv, 10 of which were intercepted, according to Israeli news sites. A missile fragment fell on the Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot, causing no casualties.

Fierce ground battles in Khan Younis

Al Jazeera’s Wael al-Dahdouh reports that fierce fighting is now taking place between Palestinian armed groups and the Israeli army in the centre of Khan Younis. The ground battles are accompanied by repeated Israeli air and artillery bombardment. For more than a month, Israeli forces have tried to advance towards Khan Younis’s city centre from several points, but have been met by strong pushback from Palestinian armed groups.

Israel shelling several areas in Gaza Strip: Wafa

Several civilians were killed and others injured when Israeli warplanes targeted a group of civilians in the eastern Gaza district of Zeitoun, the Wafa news agency is reporting, citing medical sources. Wafa also reports that an Israeli drone bombed a house in the al-Maghazi refugee camp in central Gaza, injuring civilians, mostly children. People were also injured in an Israeli attack on a house in the Nuseirat refugee camp, with Wafa reporting the injured were taken to Al-Aqsa Hospital.

Israeli overnight raids across West Bank

Israeli forces are raiding many areas across the occupied West Bank tonight. There are raids reported in several places including:

  • Al Bireh City, south of Qalqilya
  • Biet Iybia, west of Nablus City
  • Beit Ummar north of Hebron, targeting the neighbourhood adjacent to the Kermi Tsur settlement
  • Barta’ah in Jenin

Genocide in Gaza – the information war

Israel’s war on Gaza has been a turning point for the world order and its media ecosystem. The extent of the brutality – a genocide unfolding in plain sight – and the sheer volume of disinformation designed to defend the indefensible. Also the complicity of so many Western news outlets – repeatedly exposed for failing to question Israeli propaganda, then spreading it.

US must repudiate Israeli minister’s calls for ‘ethnic cleansing of Gaza’: CAIR

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has said the Biden administration must repudiate remarks made by Israel’s Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich on the removal of Palestinians from Gaza.

Earlier we reported that Smotrich told Israeli Army Radio “let’s make the desert bloom” as he discussed two million Palestinians “emigrating” from Gaza. “If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after will be totally different,” Smotrich said.

The US-based advocacy organisation CAIR described Smotrich’s remarks as the “latest open call for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. It has always been the Israeli government’s plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Smotrich just made it official,” said CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad in a statement. “The Biden’s administration failure to explicitly condemn such genocidal rhetoric has emboldened Israeli leaders to escalate their genocidal words into genocidal actions,” Awad added.

Biden recognises ‘murderous images doing him damage’: Analyst

As Biden looks to the November 2024 election, he “recognises that the most murderous images” from Gaza “are doing him damage”, says American author and political scientist Norman Finkelstein, speaking to Al Jazeera from New York.

“Biden is concerned not about ending the Israeli genocide, but that it doesn’t look so bad in the media,” Finkelstein said, noting that US voters aged 18 to 34 mostly oppose the war. But, Finkelstein says, that while there are reports that “Israel will agree to Biden’s demand that certain aspects of the genocide will be reduced”, this may “not have a major impact on the essence of the Israeli assault on the people of Gaza”.


New Year’s Eve protests for Palestine around the world

People have marked New Year’s Eve with protests for peace in Palestine.

In Lahore, Pakistan, people took to the streets on rollerblades and motorbikes, waving Palestinian flags.

In Istanbul, Turkey, demonstrators gathered outside the US consulate.

In Tahrir Square, Baghdad, a Christmas tree decorated with items resembling children wrapped in shrouds was displayed in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza.

Pro-Palestinian demonstrators marched through Manhattan on New Year's Eve. The large group gathered at Columbus Circle on Sunday afternoon.

'No Celebration Until Liberation': Pro-Palestine Protesters Rally in Melbourne on New Year's Eve

Oh the inconvenience to the ball drop...

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LurkerJ said:

I have pointed out few times that the situation as it is, is definitely not what the majority of the people anywhere in the west want, but I would hard pressed to say our governments are not in full support of genocide, 3 months into the conflict, this is not a question anymore. Even statements like "passively complicit" are wrong. 

I don't know what it is exactly, greed, fear of the Muslim world or caught like a deer in headlights. Western governments have always been pro Israel and not immune to Hasbara either. Some might simply refuse to believe what's actually happening, politicians are just people after all and maybe even more easily influenced by propaganda and dogmatic thinking. Politics are the original echo chambers.

Governments are also full of old people, most set in their ways, rigid in their thinking. Most of the opposition voices come from the younger generations, more resistant to propaganda and disinformation, more used to the lies of the internet and far less prone to take government officials and major news outlets at their word. Which are just as complicit with their self censorship, selective coverage and pushing their own agendas.

The irony

Broadcast journalists are sometimes accused of bias against Israel.

Such claims have been made, among others, by the pro-Israel media monitoring group BBC Watch and the right-of-centre press. More recently, the BBC was criticised by the Board of Deputies of British Jews and a former BBC executive for not referring to Hamas as “terrorists”.

Academics analysed Israel-Palestine coverage and found Palestinian perspectives were given far less time and legitimacy


In 2023, the United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres reaffirmed the centrality of the conflict’s backstory when he stated that the 7 October attacks “did not happen in a vacuum” and were related to the history of the occupation: “The Palestinian people have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation,” he said. “They have seen their lands steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence, their economy stifled and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.”

Yet the BBC repeatedly gives reports of events without such context. For instance, on 23 November BBC Online reported that: “The conflict began when Gaza-based gunmen from Hamas attacked southern Israel on 7 October, killing about 1,200 people and taking about 240 others hostage.”

The BBC’s coverage locates the origin of the conflict in the recent actions of Hamas – but Palestinians see themselves as resisting the actions of Israel stretching back decades.

In our earlier studies, which covered nearly five months of BBC One and ITV1 mass audience bulletins, we also found that, in the absence of context and history, BBC journalists would report the Palestinian “side” in terms of the suffering caused by the fighting. But the Palestinian perspective in terms of the reasons for the conflict was absent. The Israeli rationale, on the other hand, was often foregrounded in news reports.

I doubt most people in congress are pro genocide, but they took a stance for Israel early and now either have to somehow fool themselves into believing it was the right choice or admit that it's time to right the ship. A lot probably still refuse to see it as real, not allowing themselves to believe what's happening, it must be terrorist propaganda, can't really be that bad, we're the good guys!

Support is also highest in the USA and India, USA from the national trauma of 9/11 2001, India for 26/11 2008, both drawing parallels to October 7th, both never really looked into why those attacks happened. Or at least never told the public the rationale behind the attacks.

Oh look it's the UK again, about Jammu and Kashmir in particular

Jammu and Kashmir is a region administered by India as a union territory and consists of the southern portion of the larger Kashmir region, which has been the subject of a dispute between India and Pakistan since 1947 and between India and China since 1959.

There has also been a shift of not taking official organizations serious anymore (if they ever were). First the long campaigns discrediting global warming, then discrediting the WHO during Covid and even blaming them for the pandemic. Both eroding public support and political belief in the alarm bells these organizations ring. And of course the long culture of exaggeration, either trying to shock people into doing something or just to get clicks. Most people have shut themselves off from politics with the constant mud slinging between politicians.

The internet isn't helping either. Far too easy to get sucked into echo chambers, perpetuated by AI algorithms spoon feeding people their feeds. Nothing malicious in the algorithms, they simply serve up what you've been looking at before to get more of your attention. So once you lean to one side, you will only get more exposure to that side. Before the internet news papers were of course also biased, but people still talked more to neighbors instead of posting in echo chambers.

The internet is a great tool to find opposing views, yet far too few people do just that. It's so easy to get sucked into "recommended for you" and watch the next bias confirming video.

And those who know all too well how all of this works are the ones manipulating social media, mainstream media and politicians with targeted propaganda and disinformation campaigns. Social media is also complicit in genocides around the world.

The best new year's resolution is, think more for yourself.

Israel is further escalating the regional war with a drone attack in Beirut

Senior Hamas figure killed in attack in southern Beirut

Hamas has announced that one of the victims of an attack in southern Beirut in Lebanon on Tuesday night was a senior official, Saleh Al Arouri. Hamas media outlet Al Aqsa TV said that the “Deputy Head of the Political Bureau of Hamas, the martyr leader Saleh Al Arouri, was martyred in a treacherous Zionist airstrike in Beirut.” Al Arouri was considered one of the founding members of the group's military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, and was based in Beirut.

The Israeli army demolished Al Arouri’s house in the occupied West Bank town of Aroura in October. At the time, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) stated that forces “operated in the town” overnight to “demolish the residence of Saleh al-Arouri, deputy head of the Hamas terrorist organization’s political bureau and in charge of the Hamas’ activities in Judea and Samaria.”

Former Israeli envoy to United Nations Danny Danon congratulated the Israeli security and intelligence agencies for the assassination of a senior Hamas figure. “I congratulate the IDF, the Shin Bet, the Mossad and the security forces for killing senior Hamas official Salah al-Aaruri [sp] in Beirut,” Danon said on X. “Anyone who was involved in the 7/10 massacre should know that we will reach out to them and close an account with them,” Danon added.

Israel will appear before ICJ at The Hague to address South Africa's claim of genocide

The State of Israel will appear before the International Court of Justice at The Hague “to dispel South Africa's absurd blood libel,” Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy said in a news briefing Tuesday, referring to South Africa’s claim that Israel is committing genocide in its war against Hamas.

“How tragic that the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro-bono for anti-Jewish racists," Eylon Levy said.

"We have no doubt that after the Jewish state brings to justice the perpetrators of the bloodiest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, history will judge South Africa for abetting the modern heirs of the Nazis. We assure South Africa's leaders history will judge you,” he said.

In its application, South Africa accuses Israel of being “in violation of its obligations under the Genocide Convention” and says “acts and omissions by Israel... are genocidal in character, as they are committed with the requisite specific intent... to destroy Palestinians in Gaza as a part of the broader Palestinian national, racial and ethnical group,” the ICJ said in a statement.

Israeli report: Netanyahu wants Dershowitz at the ICJ

According to Israeli journalist Barak Ravid, Israeli officials say the prime minister wants Alan Dershowitz to represent Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) hearing next week over South Africa’s accusation that it is conducting genocide in Gaza.

Retired Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz, who is known as a champion of Israel, defended former US President Donald Trump during his Senate impeachment trial as well as convicted sex offenders Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein.

At least 200 Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks in last 24 hours

Israeli forces carried out 15 attacks and killed 207 Palestinians in the past 24 hours in Gaza, the Palestinian health ministry said while adding that 338 people were also wounded. The total number of Palestinians killed in Gaza since October 7 now stands at 22,185. At least 57,000 have been wounded.

Additionally, more than 320 Palestinians have also been killed across the occupied West Bank by Israeli forces and settlers since October 7.

Forced displacement is a crime against humanity: UN special rapporteur

Francesca Albanese says that Israel has been carrying out forced displacement “with impunity during decades of illegal occupation”.

“It has now taken it to a new level by terrorising people through bombing, starvation and induced disease,” Albanese said on X in a response to a post by an Israeli legal rights expert’s claims that Israeli officials have been forcibly moving Palestinians within the West Bank and Gaza.

Israeli authorities demolish Palestinian structures in West Bank: UN

The UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) has reported the first demolitions in 2024 of Palestinian-owned structures in the occupied West Bank. In a post on social media, UNOCHA said the demolitions were reported on Monday in Al Maniya, Bethlehem.

“2023 ended with 1,119 structures demolished and 2,210 people displaced, as a result, in the #WestBank,” UNOCHA said.

According to UNOCHA, the destruction and threat to destroy Palestinian homes and sources of livelihood by Israeli authorities “contributes to the generation of a coercive environment pressuring people to leave their areas of residence”.

Still no cause given for death of seventh Palestinian prisoner

Overnight, a seventh Palestinian has died in an Israeli prison. Abdul Rahman al-Bahsh, 23, was serving a 35-month sentence. That’s now seven prisoners since October 7.

It’s a high number, and comes against a background where Israel’s parliament has legislated toughening the conditions for Palestinian prisoners, and where the National Security Minister is Itamar Ben-Gvir, a man with convictions for incitement to racism and membership in a “terror” group, and a man who has taken particular interest in telling his constituents how he’s going to make life much harder for Palestinian prisoners.

No indications yet as to the cause of death of Abdul Rahman al-Bahsh, investigations are continuing according to the Israeli prison authorities.


Turkey arrests 33 for involvement in Mossad plot: Report

Turkish authorities have announced they detained 33 people suspected of being involved in a plot for Mossad, the Israeli intelligence and espionage agency, according to the state-run Anadolu news agency.

They said operations took place in eight Turkish provinces, and authorities are seeking 13 other suspects. The top prosecutor’s office in Istanbul also announced that arrest warrants have been issued for 46 suspects in another investigation into an alleged plot by Mossad to target foreigners in Turkey.

Blair Institute denies report on Gaza resettlement, says ‘wrong in principle’

The Tony Blair Institute for Global Change has called an Israeli news report linking the former UK prime minister to a role in the “voluntary evacuation” of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip “a lie”.

“No such discussion has taken place. Nor would Tony Blair have such a discussion, the idea is wrong in principle. Gazans should be able to stay and live in Gaza,” the institute wrote on social media.

The Israeli news report claimed that Blair would lead in finding European countries that would take in Palestinian refugees from the besieged enclave where almost 22,000 people have been killed since Israel’s war on the territory began on October 7.

US State Department denounces comments by far-right Israeli officials on resettlement of Palestinians

The US State Department on Tuesday rejected comments by far-right Israeli officials —Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir — calling for the resettlement of Gazans outside of Gaza, denouncing them as "inflammatory and irresponsible. We have been told repeatedly and consistently by the Government of Israel, including by the Prime Minister, that such statements do not reflect the policy of the Israeli government. They should stop immediately," State Department spokesperson Matt Miller said in a statement.

Miller noted in the statement that the department has been "clear, consistent, and unequivocal that Gaza is Palestinian land and will remain Palestinian land, with Hamas no longer in control of its future and with no terror groups able to threaten Israel. That is the future we seek, in the interests of Israelis and Palestinians, the surrounding region, and the world," he said.

The State Department’s comments come after Israeli cabinet ministers in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing coalition made remarks advocating for the resettlement of Palestinians outside of Gaza.

On Sunday, Smotrich, called for Palestinian residents to leave the Gaza strip, making way for Israelis who could "make the desert bloom," according to Reuters.

Ben Gvir expressed support for resettling Palestinians from the Gaza Strip abroad, declaring that the war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza” during a political meeting.

Ben-Gvir says Israel is not ‘another star on the American flag’

The far-right Israeli national security minister’s comments came after he was criticised by name by the US State Department for encouraging the mass displacement of Palestinians from Gaza. “The United States is our best friend, but first of all we will do what is best for the State of Israel: the migration of hundreds of thousands from Gaza,” Ben-Gvir wrote in a social media post.

Blast in Beirut risks triggering a wider war

A blown-out building in the Lebanese capital flashed on local TV channels as plumes of black smoke billowed into the sky. Hamas said this was the aftermath of an Israeli drone strike that killed one of its most senior officials, Saleh Al-Arouri, and several other members.

The Israeli military has not yet responded to CNN’s request for comment on the reports. If true, Arouri would be the most senior Hamas official killed by Israeli forces since the start of the war sparked by the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel.

In addition to dealing a blow to Hamas’ leadership, the apparent attack also risks further broadening the arena of the Israel-Hamas conflict. It would mark the biggest Israeli strike on the Lebanese capital since the 2006 war between the two countries.

The apparent strike hit a popular neighborhood in Beirut’s southern suburbs, which are also a stronghold of Iran-backed Hezbollah. It reportedly struck a Hamas office, killing Arouri — one of the founders of the group’s military wing — during a meeting.

Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati called it a “new Israeli crime that aims to drag Lebanon into a new phrase in confrontations,” referring to the ongoing, months-long tit-for-tat conflict between Hezbollah and Israeli forces in the Lebanon-Israel border region.

Israel not claiming responsibility

Israel has "not taken responsibility" for the attack that killed a senior Hamas figure in Lebanon, a top official said Tuesday. During an interview with MSNBC, Mark Regev, who is a senior adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said "Israel has not taken responsibility for this attack. But whoever did it must be clear that this was not an attack on the Lebanese state. It was not an attack even on Hezbollah," Regev said.

Meanwhile, a former ambassador to the United Nations, Danny Danon, praised Israeli security agencies for the “assassination” of Arouri and Israeli military spokesperson Daniel Hagari skirted a question from a reporter on the death of the senior Hamas leader.

Israeli officials celebrate attack on al-Arouri

The strike is already being hailed as a victory by some of the members of this coalition government, despite a directive from the cabinet secretary that they shouldn’t talk about it publicly.

We’ve heard from Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich saying “let all the enemies perish”. We’ve heard Likud party member Danny Danon saying that he’s praised the Israeli security forces. And this is despite the Israelis still not officially confirming that they’ve carried out this strike.


Israeli finance minister claims all of Israel’s enemies will "perish"

In a seemingly a veiled reference to the killing of a senior Hamas leader on Tuesday, Israeli finance minister Bezalel Smotrich wrote on his official social media platforms that all of Israel’s enemies will “perish.”  

His comment comes after Hamas said Tuesday that one of its senior officials had been killed in an attack in southern Beirut. Saleh Al-Arouri was a prominent Palestinian political and military leader whom Israel considers one of the key founders of the Al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, in the occupied West Bank. 

US congressman hails killing of al-Arouri

Mike Waltz, a Florida Republican, called the assassination of the Hamas leader in Beirut a “very big deal”. “If I were any Hamas leader right now, whether you’re in Turkey, Beirut or elsewhere, I would not sleep well at night,” Waltz told Fox News. “The Israelis will hunt them down.”

Under NATO’s collective defence treaty, an attack on Turkish soil would be akin to an assault on the US itself.

Protest in Ramallah against the killing of Saleh al-Arouri

Al-Arouri’s killing is ‘an act of terrorism’: Haniyeh

Haniyeh called the killing a “craven assassination”, a “brutal aggression” and a “blatant crime that demonstrates, once again, the brutality that is carried out by the occupation against our people”.

“It is also a violation of Lebanese sovereignty – one that represents an expansion of the scope of the Israeli aggression against our people and our nation,” he said. “The occupation is responsible for any repercussions.”

Hezbollah says attacked gathering of Israeli troops

The evening attack on the eastern side of the Lebanese-Israeli border was the first by Hezbollah since the killing of al-Arouri in Beirut. Hezbollah said it targeted a unit of Israeli soldiers “with the appropriate weapons”, killing and injuring its members.

Lebanon to submit complaint against Israel to the UN

The Lebanese government has said that it will submit a complaint to the United Nations Security Council over what it called a “blatant” Israeli strike in the capital city of Beirut. In a statement on Tuesday the government condemned “new Israeli violations of Lebanese sovereignty”.

‘Israel wants this escalation’

Tariq Kenney-Shawa, US policy fellow at Al-Shabaka, a Palestinian think tank, says Israel has made it clear that it is “resolved to going to war” with Hezbollah to secure its northern areas and prolong the conflict, along with Netanyahu’s political life.

“This kind of kills two birds with one stone for Israel. In addition to the assassination of a top Hamas leader, Hezbollah will be forced to decide whether to live up to their promise that assassinations in Lebanon would be a red line. If they do, Israel gets the war it’s craving; if they don’t, then Hezbollah looks weak and doesn’t wield the same deterrence power it once did,” Kenney-Shawa told Al Jazeera in an email.

Another distraction from the ongoing genocide, meanwhile in Gaza

‘Stop bombing Gaza,’ US senator says

Elizabeth Warren has hit out at the Israeli offensive in Gaza.

“Netanyahu & his right-wing war cabinet have created a humanitarian catastrophe, killing thousands of Palestinian civilians. Israel needs leadership that will bring the hostages home, not wage months of war,” the progressive senator said in a social media post. “Stop bombing Gaza. Resume the cease-fire. Work toward a permanent peace.”

WHO chief condemns Israeli attack on Khan Younis hospital

Tedros Ghebreyesus said that he deplored the attack on the Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRSC)-run al-Amal Hospital, saying that it severely damaged the PRCS training centre located in the complex. The head of the WHO added that the organisation’s staffers had visited the facility to examine the damage following the attack on Tuesday. He said they “witnessed extensive damage and displacement of civilians”.

“Today’s bombings are unconscionable,” Ghebreyesus said. “Gaza’s health system is already on its knees, with health and aid workers continuously stymied in their efforts to save lives due to the hostilities.”

The Israeli attack killed at least five civilians, including a five-day-old baby, the PRCS said.

‘Everyone in Gaza is hungry’: UN agencies

The latest warnings from the UN’s relief agency for Palestinians and the UN World Food Programme have highlighted the threat of starvation and disease in heavily built-up areas, where tens of thousands of people have fled intense bombing campaigns in the besieged enclave’s north and centre.

“Everyone in Gaza is hungry! Skipping meals is the norm, and each day is a desperate search for sustenance,” WFP said in a post on X. “People often go the entire day and night without eating. Adults go hungry so children can eat.”

More than a million people are now seeking safety in the already overcrowded southern city of Rafah, according to UNRWA, with hundreds of thousands sleeping in the open with inadequate clothing or materials to keep out the cold.

Palestinian Health Ministry: Respiratory and skin diseases continue to spread in Gaza amid humanitarian crisis

The Palestinian Ministry of Health in West Bank has provided its latest update on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Its information is draw from data supplied by hospitals and other sources in the Hamas-controlled territory. The ministry cautions that obtaining accurate data is difficult given how many people are now living in the streets. The latest update says:

  • 1.93 million people are now displaced in Gaza, of whom some 1.2 million are registered at UN facilities across the territory.
  • Nine out of 36 hospitals in Gaza are partially functioning but the ministry says it has no information about health provision in central and northern Gaza.
  • The average bed occupancy in those functioning hospitals was 351%.
  • Respiratory and skin diseases continue to spread.
  • There are nearly 200,000 cases of acute respiratory infections, more than 130,000 cases of diarrhea, and more than 50,000 cases of scabies and lice. It said the combination of being forcibly displaced and cold weather aggravated the risk of illnesses.
  • The ministry also echoed assessments by the United Nations and NGOs working in Gaza about the extent of food security, now estimated to be affecting almost the entire population. It estimated that 378,000 people were at a “catastrophic” level of food insecurity.

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Israel carried out strike that killed senior Hamas leader in Beirut, US official says

Israel carried out the strike Tuesday in southern Beirut that killed senior Hamas leader Saleh Al-Arouri, a US official told CNN. The Biden administration was not told about the operation in advance, the official added. Citing a senior Israeli official, Axios’ Barak Ravid reported earlier that the administration was informed “as the operation was happening.” 

Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev said that Israel had "not taken responsibility" for the attack. During an interview with MSNBC, the senior adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he had "seen the reports" about the attack.

Israeli national security minister responds to US rebuke of his comment on resettling Gazans

A far-right Israeli official has responded to the US State Department's rebuke to his comments that call for the resettlement of Gazans outside of the Gaza Strip

Very appreciative of the United States of America but with all due respect we are not just another star on the American flag," National Security Minister Ben Gvir said in a translated post on X, formerly Twitter, on Tuesday. He called the US Israel's "good friend." "But first of all we will do what is good for the State of Israel," the minister said, adding that the "emigration of hundreds of thousands from Gaza" will allow Israeli settlers to return and "live in security."  

He and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich made the suggestion earlier this week. Smotrich called for Palestinian residents to leave the Gaza strip, to make way for Israelis who could "make the desert bloom," according to Reuters.

Gvir expressed support for resettling Palestinians from the Gaza Strip abroad, declaring that the war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza” during a political meeting.

Earlier Tuesday, US State Department spokesperson Matt Miller said that “such statements do not reflect the policy of the Israeli government," denouncing them as "inflammatory and irresponsible."

Nice mess there. Definitely a rift starting to form between the USA and Israel.

Over 1 million people are now stuck in Rafah

The UN relief agency (OCHA) has released an update on the humanitarian situation in Palestine, noting that more than 1 million people are now in the Rafah Governorate in southern Gaza. OCHA said that heavy Israeli bombardments from “land, air and sea” continued across Gaza and that hostilities in Khan Younis and Deir el-Balah had added to Rafah becoming “extremely overcrowded”.

The IDF wants them to return to the North soon ish, Gaza city:

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LurkerJ said:
SvennoJ said:

I don't know what it is exactly, greed, fear of the Muslim world or caught like a deer in headlights. Western governments have always been pro Israel and not immune to Hasbara either. Some might simply refuse to believe what's actually happening, politicians are just people after all and maybe even more easily influenced by propaganda and dogmatic thinking. Politics are the original echo chambers.

Governments are also full of old people, most set in their ways, rigid in their thinking. Most of the opposition voices come from the younger generations, more resistant to propaganda and disinformation, more used to the lies of the internet and far less prone to take government officials and major news outlets at their word. Which are just as complicit with their self censorship, selective coverage and pushing their own agendas.

The irony

From your link:

"We found that “murder”, “murderous”, “mass murder”, “brutal murder” and “merciless murder” were used a total of 52 times by journalists to refer to Israelis’ deaths but never in relation to Palestinian deaths. The same pattern could been seen in relation to “massacre”, “brutal massacre” and “horrific massacre” (35 times for Israeli deaths, not once for Palestinian deaths); “atrocity”, “horrific atrocity” and “appalling atrocity” (22 times for Israeli deaths, once for Palestinian deaths); and “slaughter” (five times for Israeli deaths, not once for Palestinian deaths)."

A mix of tribalism and horrible media coverage have successfully manipulated the public for decade. Don't underestimate tribalism, I assure you if Trump had any hands in this the coverage would be different, just remember the outcry that resulted from the assassination of Qasem Soleimani lol

Thankfully, Tiktoc and Twitter have ensured Israel and its genocidal supporters from both parties have lost this conflict, and it will be forever remembered as the most avoidable mass murder that we watched happen in front of our eyes, all while we're being asked to be mad at the only war criminal like Putin but not Netanyahu and the people who arm him unconditionally, what a joke. 

I copied your reply here from

Western media has ignored this conflict for decades and always painted 'the oppressed' as the trouble makers. Every attempt at a solution has only led to Israel taking more land from Palestinians. If it weren't for cell phones, social media and brave grass roots journalism, we might never know the extent of what's going on. Censuring the internet so far has luckily failed. Despite disinformation, blocking/removing accounts, mass removal of posts by social media platforms, the truth still comes out.

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zeldaring said:

You make good points it's just every one that's pro palestine that has knowledge about wars and stuff is usually pro Russia and with the way US is acting and basically fully supporting the blatant genocide its hard not think maybe be these people are right and the US elites are  evil and making the problems on the world 

It's very much the opposite here in the US.  If support for Palestine and support for Ukraine were a Venn diagram, they'd almost form a circle.

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Unfortunately most (if not all) Western countries fully support Israel regardless of what they do (I 100% condemn Hamas attack).

Nelson Mandela - "But we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians"