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What will be the launch title for Nintendo's Next Console?

3D Mario 26 53.06%
 
Mario Kart X 13 26.53%
 
Metroid Prime 4 5 10.20%
 
Super Smash Brothers 1 2.04%
 
Pokémon: Let's Go Johto! 1 2.04%
 
New Experimental Game (Tech Demo) 1 2.04%
 
Donkey Kong 3D 0 0%
 
Other (Specify below) 2 4.08%
 
Total:49
Pajderman on 18 December 2023

I do not think we will get a new Mario Kart at launch. The team have created a lot of new tracks added to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, almost a full new game worth.

And why does people still act like Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit does not exist?
It might not be the game people wanted but it did take development time. Even with the rerelease of Mario Kart 8 Nintendo have spent plenty of time on the franchise this gen. A new game in the franchise is not ready by default. They would have needed a second team working on it in parallelly to the one creating the new courses for Mario kart 8 DLC.

I have never viewed Mario Kart as a system seller even if it often sits at the top of the selling charts. The broad appeal of the game make it the game to also get beside the game one bought the system for. Even if the primary game is Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing or Metroid - might as well get Mario Kart also for some party fun. It is always a fun time but not really a new experience that I think early adopters look for.

I'm probably wrong, but that's my take.



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IcaroRibeiro on 18 December 2023
HyrulianScrolls said:

S/V were the first time the games were a broken mess and the media awareness of it was huge. Nintendo would be beyond foolish to think the franchise won’t take damage with another COD style churn out that doesn’t satisfy people on an install base that will be the fraction of Switch size. There’s no reason to risk that rather than making GF take their time to make an actual well liked game instead. Plenty of other teams can handle remakes in the meantime

If this is what you want to believe, then sure. It's just a matter o waiting. There will be another Pokemon game next year and it will see just as well as the other entries. It is what it is



Shtinamin_ on 18 December 2023
Soundwave said:
archbrix said:

Odyssey has proven that 3D Mario sales are nothing to sneeze at when it's such a quality title. It's no Mario Kart, but not even a new Pokemon game's sales can touch Kart today. A brand new 3D Mario game that is demonstrative of the new system's capabilities would be a great launch title, and it surely wouldn't be Nintendo's only game for the fall.

Honestly, I'm not sure Switch 2 necessarily needs Mario Kart on launch day. I can only imagine the level of shortages we'll see for Switch 2's first holiday. Having your alpha title come out when the system is at its most difficult to find could prove to be less effective than launching it several months later when the install base has grown a bit, the system is more readily obtainable and the anticipation has grown even more.

Nintendo should be careful, the economy is a problem these days, people are not buying luxury goods as much it seems like, at least it seems like game consoles are bearing the brunt of some of that. It doesn't look to me like Sony is going to hit their forecast of 25 million PS5s unless they overship and stuff their retail channels and that's with a new PS5 Slim model this fall and exclusive Spider-Man 2, XBox sales have collapsed, Switch sales are declining. It looks like things like iPhone sales have declined year over year too. That inflation + sky high interest rates are making people ask if they really need a new iPhone, game console, etc. etc. this year I think. 

Better safe than sorry. 

A Mario Kart game shouldn't need 4-5 years of development and there's no excuse for Nintendo to not have been developing it for about 3 years now. What possibly project would be something that should be a bigger priority than Mario Kart? 

Especially if the system is $400, you better err on the side of caution and have as good of a launch as you can. I would want both Mario Kart + 3D Mario in the first 4-5 months if I'm Furukawa. Don't fuck around and screw this up by being loosey goosey, that's the attitude that got Nintendo into a world of trouble with the 3DS and Wii U launches. 

There should be an intense fire in Nintendo's belly to prove they can follow up a successful system because they failed miserably with the Wii U and 3DS launch years. They have a lot to prove, don't be stupid and assume anything is in the bag for you, take nothing for granted. It's going to be difficult to repeat the success of the Switch. 

I agree, Nintendo does need to be careful. People are being cautious with their purchases and the economy (at least in America, I can't speak for everywhere else) is taking hit after hit.
Nintendo needs to have only fire games, and they need to hit hot and heavy at launch. Nintendo's best selling point to the consoles are their 1st party Nintendo published games. The better the game the more people are willing to fork over the money.


archbrix said:
Shtinamin_ said:

Where is the information regarding DK game? Is it the opening of Donkey Kong Country in Universal Studios Japan?
We could be hit with a DKC4 for Switch and a 3D DK for the NG, same year.

I would love for that to be the case.

Details about a new DK game differ depending on who you listen to.  One rumor suggests that Activision was developing a 3D DK game that was eventually scrapped by Nintendo and pulled back to EPD Tokyo for development.  Others say that the game is actually 2D, or at least 2.5D.  So who really knows.  One thing is for sure though:  Nintendo would be foolish not to have a full DK game of some kind next year.

It would be foolish because:
DK was a prominent character in the Super Mario Bros. Movie
DK Country opens in Super Nintendo World at Universal Studios Japan in 2024
And the DK game (not including Mario vs DK) was in 2014, I dont think it takes 10 years to make a game (it usually 4-6 years).

IcaroRibeiro said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

Regarding Pokemon, it was VERY clear gf had no ability to develop for a console like Switch in such short dev times this gen. Add a far more powerful hardware into the mix when they still don’t even know how to develop for home consoles circa 2008, and it will be a disaster if they don’t take their time with the next game (gen X). I think Nintendo is well aware of this now as well and won’t let them pump out broken garbage for the next Switch either.

S/Vs sales were extremely concerning in how massive it opened and then cliff dived. The reception definitely hurt. A game like that launching on a console with a mere fraction of the install base S/V launched on could be an outright disaster for the franchise. Nintendo’s not gonna let it happen. Why I say 2027 for Gen X and in the meantime we get Gen V remakes along the way by a different dev

Pokemon sales cliff diving is not something new. Pokemon Sun and Moon shipped 10 million in one day, to sell 16 million lifetime. Pokemon games quality has been whack for many generations now and Nintendo has never done anything. Why will they do it now? 

Maybe we won't be seeing a Pokémon game on the new console unitl Gen 11, usually when Nintendo launches a new console, The Pokémon Company still debuts the next gen on the old console
Black 2/ White 2 released in Jun 2012 on the DS, while the 3DS released in Feb 2011.
Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon released in Nov 2017 on the 3DS, while the Switch released in Mar 2017.

So if the new console releases in Sept 2024 we should expect to see the next game Mar 2025 on the Switch.

agreed, their quality has been whack, hopefully that COO address is true (they said they would consider spending more time developing)

Kai_Mao said:

I don’t understand sales expectations for Pokémon S/V. I think the sales are fine. I don’t think even Nintendo were expecting 35+ million LTD for those games. I’m sure they would’ve liked it, !75 doubt that they’re complaining about S/V already being close to the 3rd best selling games in the main series, if not already.

Anyway, I’m kinda more interested in what third party titles will be at launch for a potential Switch 2. I would like to see games like Street Fighter VI, Final Fantasy VII Remake, Elden Ring, Sekiro, modern Resident Evil, Tales of Arise, etc. come to Switch 2. Just not sure which ones will actually be launch titles or titles that will come to the platform at all. RDR2, Mass Effect trilogy, and even Cyberpunk 2077 are also potential games.

Some 3rd Party for Launch year of 2024 will be:
Call of Duty

And speculated could be:
Street Fighter VI
Resident Evil IV remake
MH Wilds
Rune Factory 6
Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion
And maybe a couple of collections/remakes.

With the rumored specs of the NG, and around 11 developers in possession of the dev kit (and one in a Spain located studio), I'd say they are trying to play with Playstation and compete game-wise with them (very optimistic).

Pajderman said:

I do not think we will get a new Mario Kart at launch. The team have created a lot of new tracks added to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, almost a full new game worth.

And why does people still act like Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit does not exist?
It might not be the game people wanted but it did take development time. Even with the rerelease of Mario Kart 8 Nintendo have spent plenty of time on the franchise this gen. A new game in the franchise is not ready by default. They would have needed a second team working on it in parallelly to the one creating the new courses for Mario kart 8 DLC.

I have never viewed Mario Kart as a system seller even if it often sits at the top of the selling charts. The broad appeal of the game make it the game to also get beside the game one bought the system for. Even if the primary game is Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing or Metroid - might as well get Mario Kart also for some party fun. It is always a fun time but not really a new experience that I think early adopters look for.

I'm probably wrong, but that's my take.

Nintendo had Mario Kart: Tour and Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit both releasing after Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (I don't think Tour is considered as Mario Kart 9 since Tour tracks are in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + DLC). So I consider Mario Kart: Live as Mario Kart 9.
Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit took three years to develop. From 2017-2020 was time spent on Mario Kart Live. (I dont know how long it took to develop Mario Kart Tour) 2019-2023 was time spent on Mario Kart: Tour. EPD9, the department in charge of Mario Kart franchise, have been a bit busy.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe took 1 year (and 2 years for Mart Kart 8) to develop with ~2 years for the DLC waves. 2016-2017 & 2022-2023. 

Sorry that was a lot of bumbling. I just wanted to understand what EPD 9 has been working on for the Switch to get an idea how long they could be working on a new addition to the series. So from 2020 they been "free", and sending a very small team to focus on Tour, and a slightly bigger team (though a new team) for the DLC waves. I say a new team because the quality of wave 1 was really lackluster, and with every new wave the quality was getting better and more impressive, and shows that that team was learning and growing from their experience.
So for 3 years they have been working on the new Mario Kart, and are now (as of Nov) all hands on deck.
4 year development time seems reasonable, but I think they will want to spend 5 years to perfect, tweak, and make it visibly awe-(and jaw)-dropping.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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HyrulianScrolls on 18 December 2023
IcaroRibeiro said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

S/V were the first time the games were a broken mess and the media awareness of it was huge. Nintendo would be beyond foolish to think the franchise won’t take damage with another COD style churn out that doesn’t satisfy people on an install base that will be the fraction of Switch size. There’s no reason to risk that rather than making GF take their time to make an actual well liked game instead. Plenty of other teams can handle remakes in the meantime

If this is what you want to believe, then sure. It's just a matter o waiting. There will be another Pokemon game next year and it will see just as well as the other entries. It is what it is

Yeah sure if we’re talking a gen v or 2 remake or something on Switch. That install base is huge and it’s pretty damn hard to release a broken mess of ancient handheld games. They’d have to be beyond incompetent at that point. I’m talking the proper next mainline game when they haven’t even learned how to develop a game on the level of 2006 home console games yet. Now force them to jump into the 2020s on the Switch 2 with a far smaller install base and no time again and watch there be an epic crash and burn for the franchise if we get S/V part 2

Last edited by HyrulianScrolls - on 18 December 2023

IcaroRibeiro on 18 December 2023
HyrulianScrolls said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

If this is what you want to believe, then sure. It's just a matter o waiting. There will be another Pokemon game next year and it will see just as well as the other entries. It is what it is

Yeah sure if we’re talking a gen v or 2 remake or something on Switch. That install base is huge and it’s pretty damn hard to release a broken mess of ancient handheld games. They’d have to be beyond incompetent at that point. I’m talking the proper next mainline game when they haven’t even learned how to develop a game on the level of 2006 home console games yet. Now force them to jump into the 2020s on the Switch 2 with a far smaller install base and no time again and watch there be an epic crash and burn for the franchise if we get S/V part 2

An epic crash is just not happening. This is a series where pretty much every mainline title has at least 16 million (edit: BW missed the mark by 400k units) copies even when replaced by a third version just one year later and released on console with half of the Switch userbase. To put it simply, Switch will be the console to play Pokemon? Then Pokemon fans are buying Switch 2

Considering the current popularity of the IP and how strong Nintendo is with Switch 20 million is the floor I see a next-gen Pokemon game doing



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HyrulianScrolls on 18 December 2023

If they are smart at all what they would do is something along the lines of making a Gen V remake for 2025 (maybe cross gen) with another dev and let GF cook until 2027 or so for next mainline Switch 2. The V remakes are an easy win since people love that Gen and should easily sell 15-20m being on both systems, which keeps the Pokemon money machine flowing without a 5 year break. You make an epic Gen X Pokemon that captures all the old fans and explodes with new gens like BotW did and probably becomes the best system seller Switch 2 could ever get.

This would by far be the most lucrative route for the franchise for its success and rep in the industry. Nothing changing is getting way too close to the floor caving in, the signs are there whether some want to pretend they’re not is irrelevant. I trust Nintendo is smarter than that, but hey it’s their funeral of their biggest cash cow (and an IP that should be beloved in the industry).



IcaroRibeiro on 19 December 2023

This will never happen

Gaming is not Pokémon Company primary bussines

They are first and foremost a toy and merchandise company. Pokemon games needs to keep getting released in short amounts of time so they have source material to release their anime, movies, card games and new merchan

Console games sales are secondary. By all intents, they only reason I believe they keep releasing games on consoles is because Nintendo owns 30% of the IP and uses them to move hardware. If Game Freak was the major shareholder they would have ditched consoles already and became 100% a smartphone developer



Shtinamin_ on 19 December 2023
IcaroRibeiro said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

Yeah sure if we’re talking a gen v or 2 remake or something on Switch. That install base is huge and it’s pretty damn hard to release a broken mess of ancient handheld games. They’d have to be beyond incompetent at that point. I’m talking the proper next mainline game when they haven’t even learned how to develop a game on the level of 2006 home console games yet. Now force them to jump into the 2020s on the Switch 2 with a far smaller install base and no time again and watch there be an epic crash and burn for the franchise if we get S/V part 2

An epic crash is just not happening. This is a series where pretty much every mainline title has at least 16 million (edit: BW missed the mark by 400k units) copies even when replaced by a third version just one year later and released on console with half of the Switch userbase. To put it simply, Switch will be the console to play Pokemon? Then Pokemon fans are buying Switch 2

Considering the current popularity of the IP and how strong Nintendo is with Switch 20 million is the floor I see a next-gen Pokemon game doing

I am rather disappointed that BW didn't sell as well. It (B2W2 as well) deserves its spot as one of the top best pokemon and I'm worried Game Freak is gonna mess it up, or not make it with dignity.

And yes, a mainline next-gen game will bring a minimum of 20M sales. And if the remakes are remade justly 20M should be easy as well, no matter how janky the game will be.

HyrulianScrolls said:

If they are smart at all what they would do is something along the lines of making a Gen V remake for 2025 (maybe cross gen) with another dev and let GF cook until 2027 or so for next mainline Switch 2. The V remakes are an easy win since people love that Gen and should easily sell 15-20m being on both systems, which keeps the Pokemon money machine flowing without a 5 year break. You make an epic Gen X Pokemon that captures all the old fans and explodes with new gens like BotW did and probably becomes the best system seller Switch 2 could ever get.

This would by far be the most lucrative route for the franchise for its success and rep in the industry. Nothing changing is getting way too close to the floor caving in, the signs are there whether some want to pretend they’re not is irrelevant. I trust Nintendo is smarter than that, but hey it’s their funeral of their biggest cash cow (and an IP that should be beloved in the industry).

The Pokémon Company has never made a cross gen, and honestly I don't think they will focus on the new console until they get at least one more game out.
Every time a new console comes out it takes a bit for the next gen or remake to come out (that mostly happens due to the life cycle of a console/handheld, and I think that concept still stands, given that since gen 3 the cycle has been as such:
GBA: March 21, 2001
       - Ruby/Sapphire: Nov 21, 2002
       - FireRed/LeafGreen: Jan 29, 2004 .
NDS: Nov 21, 2004
       - Diamond/Pearl: Sept 28, 2006
       - HeartGold/SoulSilver: Mar 14, 2010
       - Black/White: Sept 18, 2010
       - Black 2/White 2: June 23, 2012
3DS: Feb 26, 2011.
       - X/Y: Oct 12, 2013
       - Omega Ruby/ Alpha Sapphire: Nov 21, 2014
       - Red/Blue/Yellow: Feb 27, 2016
       - Sun/Moon: Nov 18, 2016
       - Gold/Silver/Crystal: Sept 22, 2017 
       - Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon: Nov 17, 2017
Switch: Mar 3, 2017
       - Let's GO Pikachu/Eevee: Nov 16, 2018
       - Sword/Shield: Nov 15, 2019
       - Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl: Nov 19, 2021
       - Legends: Arceus: Jan 28, 2022
       - Scarlet/Violet: Nov 18 2022
       - Minimum required time for remake: 2024 (will be on older console as have been all Pokémon games since NDS)
       -Minimum reqired time for Legends: 2025 (unknown if releasing on Switch or NG, for consistency and to follow the pattern, I put it with the Switch)
Rumored NG release: Sept/Nov 2024
       - Minimum required time for Gen 10: Nov 14, 2025 (2022+3, and release on friday)
       - DLC 2026
       - Remake 2027
       - Legends 2028
       - Gen 11 Nov 17, 2028

But we may see the games be pushed back by a year each time
Remake 2025
Legends 2026
Gen 10 2027
DLC 2028
etc.
Due to the COO The Pokémon Company from this year, they spoke that they will be thinking about taking some time between Gens to make the games better (thats the jist of it).

Last edited by Shtinamin_ - on 19 December 2023

Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.

Tober on 20 December 2023
Shtinamin_ said:

The Pokémon Company has never made a cross gen, and honestly I don't think they will focus on the new console until they get at least one more game out.
Every time a new console comes out it takes a bit for the next gen or remake to come out (that mostly happens due to the life cycle of a console/handheld, and I think that concept still stands, given that since gen 3 the cycle has been as such:
GBA: March 21, 2001
       - Ruby/Sapphire: Nov 21, 2002
       - FireRed/LeafGreen: Jan 29, 2004 .
NDS: Nov 21, 2004
       - Diamond/Pearl: Sept 28, 2006
       - HeartGold/SoulSilver: Mar 14, 2010
       - Black/White: Sept 18, 2010
       - Black 2/White 2: June 23, 2012
3DS: Feb 26, 2011.
       - X/Y: Oct 12, 2013
       - Omega Ruby/ Alpha Sapphire: Nov 21, 2014
       - Red/Blue/Yellow: Feb 27, 2016
       - Sun/Moon: Nov 18, 2016
       - Gold/Silver/Crystal: Sept 22, 2017 
       - Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon: Nov 17, 2017
Switch: Mar 3, 2017
       - Let's GO Pikachu/Eevee: Nov 16, 2018
       - Sword/Shield: Nov 15, 2019
       - Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl: Nov 19, 2021
       - Legends: Arceus: Jan 28, 2022
       - Scarlet/Violet: Nov 18 2022
       - Minimum required time for remake: 2024 (will be on older console as have been all Pokémon games since NDS)
       -Minimum reqired time for Legends: 2025 (unknown if releasing on Switch or NG, for consistency and to follow the pattern, I put it with the Switch)
Rumored NG release: Sept/Nov 2024
       - Minimum required time for Gen 10: Nov 14, 2025 (2022+3, and release on friday)
       - DLC 2026
       - Remake 2027
       - Legends 2028
       - Gen 11 Nov 17, 2028

But we may see the games be pushed back by a year each time
Remake 2025
Legends 2026
Gen 10 2027
DLC 2028
etc.
Due to the COO The Pokémon Company from this year, they spoke that they will be thinking about taking some time between Gens to make the games better (thats the jist of it).

I'd like to add that the NDS was not introduced in all regions simultaneously. In Europe we got it it only in 2005. Looking at your list it's really only B/W2 that was released on the 'old' platform when it's successor was out (NDS vs. 3DS). The Switch was not announced as successor to the 3DS at it's reveal, even though it ended up being just that. It was way more expensive than the 3DS, which changed with the Switch Lite to some extend in 2019. Therefore in my mind I see the Switch Lite as true successor to the 3DS.

If we get a remake/remaster in November 2024, I do believe it will be on Switch despite the possibility of a 'Switch2' releasing in the fall 2024. Simply because large installed base and not needing a power upgrade to play these games. And obviously we don't know if 'Switch2' will release in all regions simultaneously.



Shtinamin_ on 20 December 2023
Tober said:
Shtinamin_ said:

The Pokémon Company has never made a cross gen, and honestly I don't think they will focus on the new console until they get at least one more game out.
Every time a new console comes out it takes a bit for the next gen or remake to come out (that mostly happens due to the life cycle of a console/handheld, and I think that concept still stands, given that since gen 3 the cycle has been as such:
GBA: March 21, 2001
       - Ruby/Sapphire: Nov 21, 2002
       - FireRed/LeafGreen: Jan 29, 2004 .
NDS: Nov 21, 2004
       - Diamond/Pearl: Sept 28, 2006
       - HeartGold/SoulSilver: Mar 14, 2010
       - Black/White: Sept 18, 2010
       - Black 2/White 2: June 23, 2012
3DS: Feb 26, 2011.
       - X/Y: Oct 12, 2013
       - Omega Ruby/ Alpha Sapphire: Nov 21, 2014
       - Red/Blue/Yellow: Feb 27, 2016
       - Sun/Moon: Nov 18, 2016
       - Gold/Silver/Crystal: Sept 22, 2017 
       - Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon: Nov 17, 2017
Switch: Mar 3, 2017
       - Let's GO Pikachu/Eevee: Nov 16, 2018
       - Sword/Shield: Nov 15, 2019
       - Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl: Nov 19, 2021
       - Legends: Arceus: Jan 28, 2022
       - Scarlet/Violet: Nov 18 2022
       - Minimum required time for remake: 2024 (will be on older console as have been all Pokémon games since NDS)
       -Minimum reqired time for Legends: 2025 (unknown if releasing on Switch or NG, for consistency and to follow the pattern, I put it with the Switch)
Rumored NG release: Sept/Nov 2024
       - Minimum required time for Gen 10: Nov 14, 2025 (2022+3, and release on friday)
       - DLC 2026
       - Remake 2027
       - Legends 2028
       - Gen 11 Nov 17, 2028

But we may see the games be pushed back by a year each time
Remake 2025
Legends 2026
Gen 10 2027
DLC 2028
etc.
Due to the COO The Pokémon Company from this year, they spoke that they will be thinking about taking some time between Gens to make the games better (thats the jist of it).

I'd like to add that the NDS was not introduced in all regions simultaneously. In Europe we got it it only in 2005. Looking at your list it's really only B/W2 that was released on the 'old' platform when it's successor was out (NDS vs. 3DS). The Switch was not announced as successor to the 3DS at it's reveal, even though it ended up being just that. It was way more expensive than the 3DS, which changed with the Switch Lite to some extend in 2019. Therefore in my mind I see the Switch Lite as true successor to the 3DS.

If we get a remake/remaster in November 2024, I do believe it will be on Switch despite the possibility of a 'Switch2' releasing in the fall 2024. Simply because large installed base and not needing a power upgrade to play these games. And obviously we don't know if 'Switch2' will release in all regions simultaneously.

I guess that makes sense why Diamond and Pearl was released in 2006, to give people a chance to purchase a NDS, and also due to the work load.

And yes, the Switch is not the official successor to the 3DS. But in Sept 20, 2016, before Sun & Moon released there were already announcements from Tsunekazu Ishihara, the CEO of The Pokemon Company. He said (im gonna give the jist but ill leave the website) that they will be developing mainline games for the NX (Switch).
Wall Street Journal

That's interesting, I guess they already had the main team working on S/M when they made that announcement and probably had the game completed. Cool.

They just announced epilogue gameplay for Scarlet and Violet: Hidden Treasures of Area Zero for Thursday January 11th 2024. That's interesting. Will they be announcing more regarding Scarlet and Violet?

In November 6th 2022, The Pokémon Company had job listings, and one of those specified that “research and development for other next-generation hardware”. So I assume since Nov/Dec of 2022 they have been working on the next games for the NG. 2022+3 year minimum per generation = 2025.
But that is only if this pertains to a mainline, I could be wrong and they may bust one out from the get go. I say 2025 because usually they take 3 years, I dont know how long a remake or Legends game takes.

And I do agree that 2024 will give the Switch at least one more Pokémon game.
If the Nintendo Switch released worldwide on the same day, I think Nintendo will release the NG on the same day worldwide as well.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

"The way to accomplish great things, is to be indefatigable and never rest till the thing is accomplished." - Joseph Smith Jr.