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Switch 2 is out! How you classify?

Terribly outdated! 3 5.26%
 
Outdated 1 1.75%
 
Slightly outdated 14 24.56%
 
On point 31 54.39%
 
High tech! 7 12.28%
 
A mixed bag 1 1.75%
 
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JackHandy said:
Soundwave said:

It's significantly better than a PS4 which was a home console that plugs into like 100 watts of electricity, it's looking better than a Steam Deck. 

It looks very much worth it's $450 price point considering it has a bigger, higher resolution screen than the $399.99 Steam Deck and more storage than the $399.99 Deck, on top of magnetic controllers that can detach and function like a mouse and a TV dock that has active cooling. 

This ain't the fucking Wii U era anymore, Nintendo is making solid hardware again. Things like Street Fighter VI look better than a XBox Series S, even the "fixed" version. 

This thing is going to be able to run a decent version of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (the PS5 exclusive one) from the looks of things. To be able to play that scale of a game on a Nintendo portable is going to be outstanding. 

The Xbox Series S is a bargain console that can't run games properly and was released almost half a decade ago. The Switch 2 is Nintendo's brand new console that isn't even out yet. So, imo, if a person is comparing the S2 to that system, or the PS4, or the PS4 Pro... I just don't see how it's any different from what they've been doing since the Wii. Compared to the best of what Sony and Microsoft have to offer, the hardware is woefully under powered.

There isn't any comparison to the ps4, the Switch 2 is leagues better. And there are no ps4 pro games because that isn't it's own console. It's just ps4 games at higher resolution. The Switch 2 handily beats both while having clear advantades over series s and we are so far into diminishing returns that Switch 2 versions of games will look nearly the same as ps5 counterparts.



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LordGustang said:

Acceptable? That's just adorable. You need to watch side by side to notice any difference and even then it's extremely minor. That's how far we are into diminishing returns. The Switch 2 is 40-50% as powerful as a ps5 yet there's only a minor difference. In the past, there would be a world of a difference between a console and another 2-2.5x more powerful.

It is what it is and also what the mass market will see. People will see the Switch 2 running the same games as the ps5 and xsx, being cheaper, having the huge benefit of portability on top of being a home console.

If we're talking raster, a docked Switch 2 is more like 20-25% of a PS5. Ampere has an appreciably lower IPC than RDNA2. These are architectures of a similar age in similar nodes, both of which are 5-6 years old at this point, there aren't going to be any miracles here when you dramatically lower the power budget.

That's in the ballpark of the gap between the docked Switch and the PS4, really, given the slightly higher IPC for Maxwell microarchitecture vs. GCN 1.1 back then. The difference is that the Switch was released a year earlier vs. the home consoles back then while the Switch 2 is kind of late.

Of course, on the other hand, game engines are much more scalable at the lower end nowadays.



 

 

 

 

 

JackHandy said:
Soundwave said:

It's significantly better than a PS4 which was a home console that plugs into like 100 watts of electricity, it's looking better than a Steam Deck. 

It looks very much worth it's $450 price point considering it has a bigger, higher resolution screen than the $399.99 Steam Deck and more storage than the $399.99 Deck, on top of magnetic controllers that can detach and function like a mouse and a TV dock that has active cooling. 

This ain't the fucking Wii U era anymore, Nintendo is making solid hardware again. Things like Street Fighter VI look better than a XBox Series S, even the "fixed" version. 

This thing is going to be able to run a decent version of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (the PS5 exclusive one) from the looks of things. To be able to play that scale of a game on a Nintendo portable is going to be outstanding. 

The Xbox Series S is a bargain console that can't run games properly and was released almost half a decade ago. The Switch 2 is Nintendo's brand new console that isn't even out yet. So, imo, if a person is comparing the S2 to that system, or the PS4, or the PS4 Pro... I just don't see how it's any different from what they've been doing since the Wii. Compared to the best of what Sony and Microsoft have to offer, the hardware is woefully under powered.

It isn't underpowered though. It's just a hybrid/portable system, not a dedicated console, and with that comes physical limitations on size, heat, watts, etc.

If that's not for you that's fine, but holding it to home console standards is asking the impossible, the technology to get PS5 performance out of a handheld form factor actually doesn't exist yet.



JRPGfan said:
Cobretti2 said:

Interesting comparison. Sometimes the faces feel like they look sharper on Switch 2, but overall with background and texture you can see they are less refined on Switch 2.

Before they ran the side by side and slow mo comparison and just played each footage one after another they did feel very similar. So a good effort on Switch 2 that many won't even care there is a difference.

I watched this in 4k, and at no point did the Switch 2 version look better.
Its clearly running higher resolution and texture quality on the PS5.

But yes this is acceptable, from the differnces in power between the two.
Like this is still a good port.

I had a watch back, it's probably the slight lighting and colour difference that made me feel the faces in two scenes looked better. The texture of rocks, walls, grass etc however as mentioned were sharper and better on PS5.



 

 

Louie said:

The fact that non-Nintendo fans (not just here, all over the internet) resort to comparing Switch 2 to home consoles to be able to talk it down shows you the Switch 2 is in a great position.

First off, I've been a Nintendo fan since SMB 1, and I literally own every console they ever released. So this notion that only non-fans are complaining can be officially retired, because I am proof that it's not true.

Second, I find it humorous that when it comes to outselling the PS2, the Switch is definitely the same thing. But when it comes to comparing its internals? Oh, suddenly it's a handheld and a different product and unfair to compare!

Here is the thing.

Nintendo had a choice to make a home console that could actually run GTA 6 without compromise, as well as every other AAA game that might like to come over to their platform. They chose not to. So now, as a consumer, I have no choice but to take that into consideration. Because at the end of the day, if all I own is a Switch 2, I'm stuck with gimped versions of certain games, or no versions at all, and I don't like that... and frankly, neither should anyone else. We are gamers, right? Meaning we are suppose to like games? Well, if you like games outside of Nintendo's IPs, you're going to need to spend like a grand now, because that Switch 2 is not going to cut it by itself... because again... Nintendo wanted handheld.

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curl-6 said:
JackHandy said:

The Xbox Series S is a bargain console that can't run games properly and was released almost half a decade ago. The Switch 2 is Nintendo's brand new console that isn't even out yet. So, imo, if a person is comparing the S2 to that system, or the PS4, or the PS4 Pro... I just don't see how it's any different from what they've been doing since the Wii. Compared to the best of what Sony and Microsoft have to offer, the hardware is woefully under powered.

It isn't underpowered though. It's just a hybrid/portable system, not a dedicated console, and with that comes physical limitations on size, heat, watts, etc.

If that's not for you that's fine, but holding it to home console standards is asking the impossible, the technology to get PS5 performance out of a handheld form factor actually doesn't exist yet.

Is there a Nintendo home console I can buy instead? Because if there isn't, I have no choice but to hold it to the same standards. It's all they're offering.



It is entertaining when people that know very little about actual hardware start talking about it - at this point I'm fully expecting some new alt of Zero999 to pop in (if it isn't already) and proclaim some nonsense about Switch 2 "powah".

Switch 2 has very descent hardware for what it is, it does have DLSS, which will help tremendously, since it's that good, but 2/3rds of 3050 mobile with very low clock doesn't make for powerhouse.



JackHandy said:
curl-6 said:

It isn't underpowered though. It's just a hybrid/portable system, not a dedicated console, and with that comes physical limitations on size, heat, watts, etc.

If that's not for you that's fine, but holding it to home console standards is asking the impossible, the technology to get PS5 performance out of a handheld form factor actually doesn't exist yet.

Is there a Nintendo home console I can buy instead? Because if there isn't, I have no choice but to hold it to the same standards. It's all they're offering.

Why would they make a dedicated home console when the Switch has been far more successful than any home console they've ever made, and especially more so than any of their power-competitive consoles?

That doesn't make it any less illogical to hold a hybrid/portable system to dedicated console standards when the two are fundamentally different. 

The hybrid form factor is the best path forward for them in terms of remaining successful, and within that form factor the Switch 2 is about as capable as one can reasonably ask for.



JackHandy said:
Louie said:

The fact that non-Nintendo fans (not just here, all over the internet) resort to comparing Switch 2 to home consoles to be able to talk it down shows you the Switch 2 is in a great position.

First off, I've been a Nintendo fan since SMB 1, and I literally own every console they ever released. So this notion that only non-fans are complaining can be officially retired, because I am proof that it's not true.

Second, I find it humorous that when it comes to outselling the PS2, the Switch is definitely the same thing. But when it comes to comparing its internals? Oh, suddenly it's a handheld and a different product and unfair to compare!

Here is the thing.

Nintendo had a choice to make a home console that could actually run GTA 6 without compromise, as well as every other AAA game that might like to come over to their platform. They chose not to. So now, as a consumer, I have no choice but to take that into consideration. Because at the end of the day, if all I own is a Switch 2, I'm stuck with gimped versions of certain games, or no versions at all, and I don't like that... and frankly, neither should anyone else. We are gamers, right? Meaning we are suppose to like games? Well, if you like games outside of Nintendo's IPs, you're going to need to spend like a grand now, because that Switch 2 is not going to cut it by itself... because again... Nintendo wanted handheld.

There is no intellectual dishonesty when it comes to the Switch outselling the PS2, and you know it. People don't compare Switch sales to PS2 because they claim the Switch is a home console, they compare it to the PS2 because the PS2 is the best selling console (home or handheld) of all time. What else are we supposed to compare it to? Switch was also compared to DS sales. So there is absolutely no argument to be made here, unless it's the stupid notion that "handhelds sell better than home consoles, thus Switch outselling PS2 doesn't count".

Sure, Nintendo had the choice to become the fourth platform / ecosystem to play GTA VI on, kill their business model in the process and design their future around a tiny minority of vocal hardcore gamers. Thankfully, they didn't make that choice, as 150 million people thought it was a great idea to make a hybrid console. The last time Nintendo released a traditional home console with a focus on graphics power was in 2001 with the Gamecube. So why are you acting shocked they didn't announce a PS5 competitor? You had almost 25 years (a quarter of a century) to adjust to this. According to your profile you are 35 years old - that's almost all your life! How many people who like handhelds complain about Sony not abandoning the PS5 and focusing solely on a new handheld? 

Yes, we are gamers, and the vast majority of us don't care about having the best graphics or the most powerful system. Neither Nintendo, nor Sony players. They didn't care with the PS1 and PS2, they didn't care with the Wii, they didn't care with the DS and 3DS and the Switch and most gamers don't have an incredibly powerful gaming PC. Neither do the millions of people who still play on a PS4 or Xbox One. And yeah, if you like Sony and Nintendo games you will have to buy both consoles! Shocker! It's been that way forever. Since the dawn of the gaming industry you had to buy multiple consoles to play all the games.

Thus, the only humorous thing here is the brain-dead "Nintendo's console is weaker than Sony's!" discussion that we've had since 2007 when I created my VGChartz account. It's the same stuff every generation. Except this time, the Nintendo console will even be getting the vast majority of third party games, so the goalposts have to be moved to accommodate for that fact.

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JackHandy said:
Sephiran said:

But i don't see how you can compare Switch 2 to a home console, there is no handheld system as of now that can deliver PS5 fidelity or performance. So its obvious that if you don't care about portability or about Nintendo games, then yes the PS5 will be the better choice of hardware for your personal preferences. That's not some kind of profound revelation that if you buy hardware based on how to best run third party AAA games, the Switch 2 won't be the best alternative for you.

I agree with you, but since Nintendo has decided to voluntarily no longer sell home consoles, the Switch 2 docked is the only way to play their games on a TV. So we're sort of forced to compare it to what Sony is doing. And if you're someone who likes all games, not just what Nintendo is putting out, you're going to have to make a decision. Do you want half-baked ports and Nintendo games that don't really look all that much better than last gens? Or do you want the best third party support, fully-baked versions without any Nintendo games? It's a problem. 

Well, not for those of us who get multiple systems.

But still.

It would be nice if we could get something like a PS5 Pro Nintendo back ala SNES. Imagine the next Zelda launching along side GTA 6. It would slay the industry and save a lot of us a ton of money.

It was the market that decided that it didn't want home console Nintendo systems, other than the Wii they were on a big trend downwards for ages when it comes to the home console market. Only handheld Nintendo systems had a big enough market to justify continuing to exist. PS and Xbox already had the demographics that preferred home consoles, there wasn't a place left for Nintendo among those two.