I don't need that pointed out I said this years ago when you were saying the Switch 2 wouldn't be able to run Ratchet & Clank on PS5 tier games. Wrrrrrrrong.

If Sony would allow it it could a very nice portable version of that game no fuss, that game is not as taxing as Star Wars Outlaws or Assassin's Creed Shadows or Indiana Jones or Resident Evil 9, having a game of that range run on Switch 2 would be no big deal at all. That's becoming fairly obvious now. It could run Spider-Man 2 as well with no fuss. I remember when that game was being put on a pedestal for being incredible next-gen!, lol. 

Oh nice, more lies.  I said it wouldn't run the ps5 version, which it can't.  

I said on page 3 anything can be ported 

If you have to lie, you are not proving the point you think you are. 

You citied that game as a "true" next-generation game, the type of game a Switch 2 would not be able to run basically. Well the Switch 2 could run that game easily, yes, the PS5 version, not some bespoke junk PS4-ized port of it, sure the settings would be a bit different but it would be the same game, and it wouldn't even be hard to port I bet. Nothing like the effort that it took to put The Witcher 3 on the Switch 1, not even close.

There isn't a single game on the PS5 that can't be ported to the Switch 2 and run decently right now, probably not even that difficult. If I said that two years ago here, you'd probably have had a stroke. 

November 2023:

Oh yeah, for sure the switch 2 will outclass the steam deck.  No doubt.  And for sure the switch 2 will be able to run modern games, no doubt.  Just not at the fidelity and performance of the ps5.  And most people won't care about the fidelity differences.  So switch 2 will be fine.  

Lol, I said it two years ago.  You continue to lie.  Enjoy your weekend.  

Yeah because you yo yo and make 20 statements to cover bases. I remember specifically asking you what a next-generation game was and what type of game wouldn't run on Switch 2, you specifically cited Ratchet & Clank PS5 as a real deal next gen game that couldn't run on "lowly PS4 tier hardware" apparently. And you were over the moon over Spider-Man 2 being a true next gen game too (lol), guess what? The Switch 2 can run that easily too, if I said that a few years ago here I probably would've gotten attacked for suggesting the almighty Sony next-gen graphics could more or less run on the Switch 2 with no fuss. You've also said other crazy shit like FF7 Remake Integrade (Integrade not even Rebirth) wouldn't run on Switch 2 when that rumor was out there, lol.

I took grief for saying Monster Hunter Wilds would be on Switch 2 as well ... welp. 

A PS4 version of something like Star Wars Outlaws or Assassin's Creed Shadows or RE Requiem would be theoretically possible; thing is though, it wouldn't look like the Switch 2 version as it wouldn't have access to DLSS or RT support or SSD-level read speeds or larger RAM capacity. It would need to be its own custom thing with less in common with the "full fat" PS5 experience than Switch 2, kinda like say the COD ports to Wii that were rebuilt to specs a gen less powerful.

All those games have roughly the same minimum requirements as Survivor which was ported just fine, obviously with lower fidelity and performance.  So it wouldn't even need that much custom, again same requirements as Survivor which was ported.

Which backs my point.  Building hardware tiers based on what games can be played is antiquated and stupid.  It made sense in the 90s, but that was a long time ago.

The Steam Deck plays 90%+ the same games as a 5090 (32 gb dedicated vram and 1500 gb/s)...  not the same hardware tier. 

To be clear those games would look and run better on the S2, perhaps the ps4 pro could get (somewhat) close.  But the argument, that many of today's games can't run on the ps4 is false.  It could be done, survivor demonstrates this.  

Just about anything can be ported to anything really, it just depends how much you're willing to rework. Hogwarts Legacy runs on the Switch 1 for instance, just in a heavily cut down form.

Minimum PC specs and the Steam Deck may have comparable GPU power to PS4, but they're not bottlenecked on storage and such in the same way, so you would need to do a lot of tinkering, like we see in say Survivor. 

But yes we broadly agree, its just a matter of how much work it takes; Switch 2 can provide a more "intact" current gen port than PS4 could, with less effort expended, which is why we see say Star Wars Outlaws, AC Shadows, RE9, etc on Switch 2 but not PS4. (Plus PS4 simply having less of an active userbase meaning the extra effort brings less of a return)

True but the ps4 also has a higher memory bandwidth, by a big margin, all hardware has their own limits.

And the S2 is outclassing the base ps4 by a good margin.

And certainly porting to the S2 would be easier, DLSS alone makes it easier.

My larger point, not directed at you, is hardware tiers are not linked to software.  That ideology died a long time ago and people need to stop falsely pretending otherwise.  

My old laptop with a 4 gb 3050 plays probably 100% all games my 4090 does, they are not even remotely the same class of hardware.  The 4090 is going to be 500 to 600% more powerful.

But yeah we agree.  Porting to the ps4 would take more effort, combined with the lack of active user base, there is no market.  The lack of new games for the ps4 isn't just power.

I never know where to post things, but Sparks of Hope (fantastic game) is $6 on the eshop. I think it runs better on the S2. Just heads up.