Switch weight = 297 grams.
Steam Deck weight = 669 grams.

A steam deck weights over twice as much as a switch.

This might also be one of the things, that prevents nintendo getting too powerfull a system in their handhelds.
I suspect because its marketed towards families and kids, they want it light weight (smaller/lighter than a Steam Deck).

Oh I know. Wasn't meaning to compare total energy capacity between the two, but charge capacity is more directly correlated with the surface area of the battery than energy and we don't know the voltages of the Switch 2 to compare on a energy basis anyway. We don't even know the size and target TGP of the Switch 2 (only rumors on those.) So charge capacity (correlating with the size of mobile devices increasing) is all we can compare on right now. 

Edit: NatetheHate has suggested the Switch 2 will have an 8inch screen size, which is why I was comparing to the Steam Deck. It's probably going to be bigger than the Switch OLED (although probably not as big as the Steam Deck.) 

I think Nintendo has actually moved beyond focusing only on "families and kids." The age distribution of their survey results are roughly comparable to those of other platforms. 

One of the major complaints of the original Switch was it was too cramped for people's large hands. 

And then of course if the rumors are true, we're looking at an 8inch screen (versus the OLED's 7inch.) 

I think the Switch 2 will be in between the original Switch and Steam Deck/Rog Ally in terms of size. With potentially a Switch 2 lite refresh further down the line for the kids demographic. 

That would affect the second chart, but not the first (which is asking adults with emails, including those with families, about the person most excited for the Switch.) 

There are a few things to consider: 

1. Developed countries are ageing and birth rates have dropped. Nintendo is acutely aware of this being a Japanese company. 

2. The results show us that older people (remember Nintendo used to target seniors) aren't playing the Switch as much as 20-35 year olds. Nintendo has de-emphasized its "brain training" audience with the Switch generation, and likely will continue to do so as more people have grown up gaming, even as they age. We also observe this in their advertisements. In the past, most of their ads had three-four generations (by age) of players in them, and now most ads target 20-35 year olds. 

3. The two distributions roughly match, even though they are measuring different things (activity vs. excitement.) 

4. Older gamers likely have higher attach ratios than children. So they are a very valuable demographic on a per-user revenue basis. 

5. The Switch lite has sold relatively low compared to the other SKUs, implying portability isn't a major concern for Switch users if it comes with tradeoffs.

6. Even if this data is off, it's the data Nintendo's marketing team collected and will inform their sales strategy and R&D. 

The data could be accurate, my comment was more of a curiosity than a statement. I have 3 switch units registered to me. I never responded to any surveys. I just want Nintendo to keep couch coop like pikmin 4.

Nintendo's fans are majority adults at this point, that's just what happens when you pile successive generations of fans on top of each other for decade after decade, they will begin to outnumber the "children" because you can only have to so many 6-14 year olds lets say at any given time but the aging side of the fanbase is adding millions of "for life" fans every Nintendo product cycle. 

Same thing happened with comic book characters, at one time Spider-Man and Batman and characters like that were for (well) children. But today, the fanbase is overwhelmingly adults. Because you have people who were fans from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, etc., that outweighs the kids.

Nintendo made "lifer fans" from the NES/GB, then the SNES, then the N64/GBC Pokemon Boom Era, then GCN + GBA, then DS + Wii era, then 3DS + Wii U and even with Switch, if you got a Switch in say 2017 as a child (say age 12) ... you are today either 18 or close to it. Then throw in declining birth rates in the West and Japan, and welp, you get a situation where the fanbase has become like probably 70%+ adults or at least 70%+ 16 and over. In the next 3-4 years you're going to have even more "Nintendo kids" who got Switch as their first Nintendo console graduating up in age to become 17-23 years old.

Apples and oranges? Comparing one device without controllers and the other with controllers?

The Steam Deck weights more, but NOT over twice.

• Switch LCD weight (controllers included): 398 g
• Switch OLED weight (controllers included): 420 g with a 16-Wh-battery
• Steam Deck OLED weight: 640 g with a 50-Wh-battery (more than triple the capacity)
• Steam Deck LCD weight: 669 g with a 40-Wh battery
• ROG Ally weight: 608 g with a 40-Wh battery
• Ayaneo Air Pro weight: 440 g with a 38-Wh battery
  
  
• my Switch OLED with Hori Splitpad Pro controllers: 474 g

And yet... It still beats it.
Either way, the whole 3050 4GB vs 6GB argument is irrelevant.

Because like I alluded to before, video game developers build games within the confines of the hardware walls, not out of it.

The 4GB 2050 is also not a 3050 4GB or 6GB.
It's actually worst with a fraction of the bandwidth, which means it is even more useless at managing large datasets.

112GB/s vs 176GB/s/192GB/s is a big difference... Bandwidth is what is holding back the 2050 the most, not memory capacity.

TDP has a massive influence over mobile hardware... To the point where a lower-end part with a higher-TDP will outperform a higher-end part.

I.E. RTX 3070 outperforming the RTX 3080. - Despite the 3080 having twice the VRAM.

Keep in mind that Breath of the Wild also runs on a:

* Triple core CPU @ about 1.25Ghz
* 1GB Ram.
* Radeon 5550 class GPU.

It doesn't have hardware demands that are regarded as "intensive". 4k or not.

Nintendo OS Ram use has generally increased in memory footprint every console generation.

Not only that, but one of the Switch's biggest issues is the extremely slow and laggy eSHOP performance, more memory dedicated to that task would clean it up a ton.
..And if they implement features like you alluded to, such as voice chat natively on the console itself, that would also require more RAM.

Very much unlikely to be on a 5/4nm TSMC node as it's expensive.

Actually my argument is that the Switch 2 will be closer to the 2050, not 3050.
So that is false.

Radeon RX 570 is running Matrix Awakens demo.

It is a 4GB card.



This guy also gets the demo working on a 1650S 4GB at 1080P low.


So it's actually possible, not impossible.

They would likely stick with ROM again... Or rather a blended ROM/NAND makeup. Performance should increase either way... As not all loading is storage bound, but rather CPU bound, which is why when Nintendo unlocked the CPU clocks during game loading we saw significant increases on that front.

However compression will be key... And developers having part of the game as a download.

NAND has come down in price, but the issue of bit flipping as they age, ROM tends to be more immune to that.

But I think we are in the era where longevity isn't really a concern anymore.

I have a clip-on battery pack that supplements the Switch's battery... I can get about 6 hours out of mine... Some can take the Switch to 8 hours and adds a heap of ergonomics.

I would lose my sh*t over this. Absolutely loved that for WiiU.