Well 3D world is not among the top 5 best selling Switch games, but Super Mario Odyssey is. So is 3D Mario games in the top 5 then? or do they cancel each other out?

3d world is not really what people want from a 3d Mario game its really its own thing. If the next 3d Mario is like 3d world and not like odyssey it's won't even break 20 million.

I dont know. A lot of people love that game. I agree that Odyssey is better, but Ive seen many people talking about how much they love 3D World.

What does sale prediction have anything to do with  being a casual lol.

Is Zeldaring this sites newest Lawlight/Quickrick figure?

I swear every post I see from them is downplaying something from Nintendo.

Is this a joke? literally just don't think mario wonder is gonna do 30 million and you're feeling i'm downplaying everything nintendo? and what else? the prediction about switch 8nm lol. man this site really has some sensitive people its like we are discussing religion or something lol, it's no wonder discussion is dead everything is perceived as a attack or downplaying even  freaking predictions.  

It’s not about your predictions, it’s about the stupid/trolling logic you use to reach those conclusions. Gems like, “Sony likes power and Nintendo doesn’t care about power, therefore a Sony Portable in 2017 would have been much stronger than Switch”.

Your argument in this thread is another example of this, you are using the nonsense logic that NSMBU is already on Switch and it didn’t sell 30 million, therefore Wonder won’t.

Wonder is the first original 2D Mario in 11 years and a huge departure from the overdone “New” series that has been around since 2006. The DS & Wii versions were massive because they were fresh and innovative after the series had been dormant for so long and while NSMB2/U were bigger & better, overall they felt like more of the same and the “New” factor had worn off.

Wonder on Switch is going to have the same impact as NSMB on DS/Wii, a grand return and huge shake up for the series that is going to absolutely dwarf NSMBU Deluxe in sales.

If you don’t think it’s going to do 30 million that’s fine, but your reasoning is just plain nonsense.

You know whats funny is most Nintendo fans in popular forums expected the switch to be way more powerful, many tech heads were saying it would be near xbox one and it would use pascal so thinking a playstation portable would be way more powerful is not stupid logic but you can think what you want, no need for throwing insults because you don't like the opinion which many shared, you can think what you like, and it differently very possible that sony could have had a way more powerful portable but that discussion is over with.

Listen you can disagree with someone opinion with out being childish and calling it stupid logic, that my reasoning and i can be wrong just like many have been but i i'll stick to my reasoning that the mass market is not gonna go crazy for wonder since we already had a 2d mario and most everyone i know that plays it loved it. we'll see soon enough and if i'm wrong then i'll eat crow.

He's the latest incarnation of quickrick.

Yeah I don't think NSMBUD is a good measuring stick for Wonder sales wise; not only is it an old port that arrived onm Switch with little fanfare, but it's a game that was never particularly well liked due to the oversaturation of the "New" subseries and it's general lack of ambition or freshness.

Wonder on the other hand seems like a much more interesting and original title, is actually a new game, and is recieving a big push in terms of marketing.