zeldaring said:
curl-6 said:
3D and 2D Mario are fundamentally different, and there's only been one new 2D entry in the last 11 years. Heck, it's been nearly 4 years since the port of New Super Mario Bros U came out on Switch, that's a pretty standard gap between games in the same popular series. I really don't see any sign of Mario fatigue, especially not on the h11eels of the movie being a massive hit. |
That's Fine. I honestly expected both 3d world and nsmu to do much better considering what mario kart 8 did. Let's remove fatigue and just say there are way to many mario platformers on switch for this to do 30 million. Like I just don't see the thirst for a mario platformers. You can say there hasn''t been a new 2d mario for 11 years but 90% of switch owners NSMBU was a brand new 2d mario. |
Very flawed argument. NSMBUD was an unexciting last gen port of a Mario series that needed to be put out to pasture that launched in the month of January to little marketing as an afterthought to the previous holiday season....and it's still up at 16m now and legs still going.
NSMBUD is what makes the strongest case for Wonder hitting 30m or thereabouts. A brand new Mario game totally different from the rest, launching as the holiday title of the Switch's most likely last holiday with a 130m userbase (nearer to 140m by the time the holiday season is over). If NSMBUD can end up getting close to 20m then Wonder certainly has a good chance at hitting 30m. It will certainly vastly outsell NSMBUD and that game is still selling well at 16m.
And you don't see the thirst for Mario platformers??? wtheck?! Mario Platformers sell crazy amounts on Switch, and the Mario movie just became one of the biggest movies of all time....how in the world could anyone not see the thirst for Mario platformers? Such a bizarre thing to say.
So my question would be, with NSMBUD at 16m and still selling well, and Wonder coming out as a much more anticipated game that will clearly sell a ton more than NSMBUD, where could it fall that isn't at least close to 30m considering it's definitely going to way outsell a game that is looking to sell 18-20m? I mean I guess you could lowball it and say it'll only hit 25m, but 25m doesn't speak to any sort of fatigue for the series obviously, and 25m is of course a hell of a lot more than Spiderman is gonna sell on PS5. But honestly it'll probably be at or at least very close to 20m just this quarter as the big holiday game for the Switch, and it'll no doubt sell >5million next year, and since we're not getting another 2D Mario any time soon it'll likely keep selling not just to Switch owners in 2025 and later but also to next gen owners who pick up some of the big Switch games to play on the next gen system. It is very hard to make a case for it not hitting 25 million, so 30m would be a good bet. Maybe it ends up just short of 30m, I dunno we'll have to see how it plays out. But 30m is definitely a realistic target.