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DonFerrari said:
zeldaring said:

 You can't be serious. Most casuals buy a console for call of duty. It comes every year or so and sells 30 million. Many people I know bought a console for mainly cod. A HUGE  reason 360 was able to compete with playstation was mainly cod being that much better experience on 360 with the controller 

And we do know that a lot of people bought a console that their friends have to play CoD together.

yup saying that people don't buy consoles for COD is insane. Microsoft basically buying everyone but since they have done that the companies that were making amazing games are mostly making duds. rare was amazing with nintendo and with Microsoft they became irrelevant.   



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twintail said:

If Sony aren't going to bother to bring Vita to Classics, then Killzone Mercenaries and Soul Sacrifice Delta would be great remasters for PS5/ PC. Granted, those probably would need a lot of extra TLC to look more next gen. 

But i guess they could just do the Bloodborne remaster LOL

DonFerrari said:

I know Vita sold very little, but shouldn't be a problem to bring PSP and PSVita titles, PS3 is likely much more complicated.

I hope so , even though I didnt buy a Vita because of the lack of number of games it had, it still had a few games that I hope gets remastered/available on PSClassics.

As for PS3, they should try to mimic the PS3 emulator and its team.



BasilZero said:
twintail said:

If Sony aren't going to bother to bring Vita to Classics, then Killzone Mercenaries and Soul Sacrifice Delta would be great remasters for PS5/ PC. Granted, those probably would need a lot of extra TLC to look more next gen. 

But i guess they could just do the Bloodborne remaster LOL

DonFerrari said:

I know Vita sold very little, but shouldn't be a problem to bring PSP and PSVita titles, PS3 is likely much more complicated.

I hope so , even though I didnt buy a Vita because of the lack of number of games it had, it still had a few games that I hope gets remastered/available on PSClassics.

As for PS3, they should try to mimic the PS3 emulator and its team.

Fully agree.



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Played around 2 hours (give of take) of FFXVI and holy shit this game is so good. Already up there with one of my favorite FF's thus far.

So impressed with the production value, especially the sound. The music and VO in this are second to none.

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SkillUp gave a pretty scathing review for FF16. I'm not a cutscene heavy gamer personally and he said the game is like 75% cutscenes and that he wasn't exaggerating.

I'm pretty sure he is, but he counters it by mentioning how much of a huge FF14 player he is, and while that game is pretty cutscene heavy, there was always a massive game on the other side of those cutscenes which is not the case for FF16 since it's not an MMO.

Whoever is playing the game, if you could please let me know if it's true just how cutscene heavy FF16 is because that was one of my biggest gripes with FF7R was how cutscene heavy the game was.

And apparently FF16 has so little in terms of RPG elements that it makes Horizon Zero Dawn look like Baldur's Gate? that was pretty astonishing to see across the board how weak the RPG elements to the game are.

It won't turn me off the game completely as it still looks like a fun game to play, and as a huge GoT fan, I'm really interested in the story, but was curious if the game is actually as cutscene heavy as I'm hearing.



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I'm about 8 or so hours into FF 16 and while there are things I really enjoy. The cinematics, the eikons are incredible as well, gameplay is strong as well with being able to utilize different sets in combat, there are flaws. I'll include spoiler tags. 

Spoiler!

Side quests: 

Took down Garuda and saw the cinematic fight of Odin and Bahamut so that's where I'm at. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've only done two side quests so far. One being serving food to people in a  small tavern like area, literally putting the food on plates, and second was getting lumber for a dude across the area. That's it. Unless I'm missing how to get quests, those are the only ones I've gotten. So far side quests, very much lacking. 

Action Game?

Obviously, the heart of the combat seems to be taken from Platinum and or other action games. You start in your hideout and you go to the map to select your area or stage. The stages, (so far) play out very formulaic. Starts with a cutscene --> battle --> walk a very linear path --> battle and or small cutscene --> walk path, repeat a few more times --> possibly mini boss or story boss. When playing this game I was thinking I'm shocked after every battle there wasn't a grading system. The whole action game concept in compounded with the use of the crystal or whatever it's called in the hideout with stage select and arcade mode... Where you guessed it, you re play the stages and are graded, given a set level for each stage. 

Even the more open areas I've been to feel very small tbh. 

My biggest crits are the side quests and the overall exploration in the world. It feels so formulaic tbh, I'm really hoping that changes. People criticized FF 13 for being overly linear, but at least that opened up in the one chapter. 

Cinematics Eicon battles are visual spectacles as well, but during my fight with Ifrit vs. Garuda it was very much do a small combo --> watch a cutscene --> anticipate a square for attack, R1 for dodge, or mash square for clash. Again... this might change, but controlling Ifrit fell into that pattern of me watching a lot of the action instead of doing it myself. 

Party members are MC, Torgal, and Cid so far (I know that will change, but overall really like both of the party members despite not being able to use them, minus commands for Torgal). 

Story so far grabs me and has kept me interested. I loved the environment in the eye of the tornado with Garuda, and the cinematics are some of the best. I just wish there was more freedom as well. Hopefully the hideout maybe turns into a big city to explore (again I have no idea).  Wish there was more freedom of exploration as well. Even 15 as well, while it started linear, by chapter 4 or 5 really opened up. 

Very solid action game, but I am missing the exploration aspects of the game. 



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gtotheunit91 said:

SkillUp gave a pretty scathing review for FF16. I'm not a cutscene heavy gamer personally and he said the game is like 75% cutscenes and that he wasn't exaggerating.

I'm pretty sure he is, but he counters it by mentioning how much of a huge FF14 player he is, and while that game is pretty cutscene heavy, there was always a massive game on the other side of those cutscenes which is not the case for FF16 since it's not an MMO.

Whoever is playing the game, if you could please let me know if it's true just how cutscene heavy FF16 is because that was one of my biggest gripes with FF7R was how cutscene heavy the game was.

And apparently FF16 has so little in terms of RPG elements that it makes Horizon Zero Dawn look like Baldur's Gate? that was pretty astonishing to see across the board how weak the RPG elements to the game are.

It won't turn me off the game completely as it still looks like a fun game to play, and as a huge GoT fan, I'm really interested in the story, but was curious if the game is actually as cutscene heavy as I'm hearing.

You wouldn't like it. During the demo it was majorly cutscenes and me putting down the controller to watch what was going on. 



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That latest FFXVI commercial is quite cringe lol



BasilZero said:

That latest FFXVI commercial is quite cringe lol

What's that? I love good cringe. 

(I love FFXVI so far, so I'm not looking to bag on the game, but good cringe is special)



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Runa216 said:
BasilZero said:

That latest FFXVI commercial is quite cringe lol

What's that? I love good cringe. 

(I love FFXVI so far, so I'm not looking to bag on the game, but good cringe is special)