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Ryuu96 said:

These include:

- A 16-week national ban on abortion (individual states could go farther).

- An end to "no fault" divorce.

- Ending surrogacy.

- Using federal education funding to end sex education in schools.

- Change federal programs that penalize marriage.

- Revoke FDA approval of "chemical abortion drugs" and the ability to receive abortion drugs via mail.

- Protecting "religious and moral" objections for employers who decline contraception coverage for employees.

- Eliminate policies that "subsidize single-motherhood" (no specifics given).

- Increasing surveillance of abortion and maternal mortality reporting in the states.

- Invoking the Insurrection Act on Day One to quash protests.

- Refusing to spend authorized congressional funds on unwanted projects (a practice made illegal under Nixon) and fight the case to the Supreme Court.

- Eliminating the diversity lottery for immigration and reforming immigration criteria away from nation of origin, education, family connections, and employment to instead base immigration quality on their commitment to biblical teachings. Saying a person's background doesn't define who can enter the U.S., but rather, citing Biblical teachings, whether that person "accept[ed] Israel's God, laws and understanding of history."

- Create a new federal task force on fighting anti-Christian bias to be led by "a fully reformed Department of Justice that's fair and equitable."

- Get court rulings recognizing that the separation of church and state is "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society. Such a framework can lead to beneficial outcomes for our own communities, as well as individuals of all faiths."

- Eliminate funding for and penalize state programs that promote transgender acceptance and replace them with programs that attempt to help correct gender confusion in youths.

A lot of those items cannot be done without congress.  Pretty much sounds like a lot of BS dog meat.



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Alabama has lost the plot.



Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

These include:

- A 16-week national ban on abortion (individual states could go farther).

- An end to "no fault" divorce.

- Ending surrogacy.

- Using federal education funding to end sex education in schools.

- Change federal programs that penalize marriage.

- Revoke FDA approval of "chemical abortion drugs" and the ability to receive abortion drugs via mail.

- Protecting "religious and moral" objections for employers who decline contraception coverage for employees.

- Eliminate policies that "subsidize single-motherhood" (no specifics given).

- Increasing surveillance of abortion and maternal mortality reporting in the states.

- Invoking the Insurrection Act on Day One to quash protests.

- Refusing to spend authorized congressional funds on unwanted projects (a practice made illegal under Nixon) and fight the case to the Supreme Court.

- Eliminating the diversity lottery for immigration and reforming immigration criteria away from nation of origin, education, family connections, and employment to instead base immigration quality on their commitment to biblical teachings. Saying a person's background doesn't define who can enter the U.S., but rather, citing Biblical teachings, whether that person "accept[ed] Israel's God, laws and understanding of history."

- Create a new federal task force on fighting anti-Christian bias to be led by "a fully reformed Department of Justice that's fair and equitable."

- Get court rulings recognizing that the separation of church and state is "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society. Such a framework can lead to beneficial outcomes for our own communities, as well as individuals of all faiths."

- Eliminate funding for and penalize state programs that promote transgender acceptance and replace them with programs that attempt to help correct gender confusion in youths.

A lot of those items cannot be done without congress.  Pretty much sounds like a lot of BS dog meat.

Congress never punishes Trump for anything. They'd sit by silently on this one.

Trump wanted to use active duty military to fire on the DC protesters in June 2020. Did Congress do anything? No. It took Mark Esper and Mark Miliey, Trump's civilian and military advisers, disobeying his orders. And when this came out on Facebook, Trump supporters were demanding they be jailed for disobeying direct orders from the Commander-in-Chief. 

What the Trump presidency taught us was how weak the system of checks and balances really is. As long as just 34 Senators out of 100 are willing to back his plays, the President can do anything he wants with impunity. A lot of Trump's excesses were curbed by sabotage from employees of the Executive Branch who knew that his actions might trigger widespread violence.



SanAndreasX said:
Machiavellian said:

A lot of those items cannot be done without congress.  Pretty much sounds like a lot of BS dog meat.

Congress never punishes Trump for anything. They'd sit by silently on this one.

Trump wanted to use active duty military to fire on the DC protesters in June 2020. Did Congress do anything? No. It took Mark Esper and Mark Miliey, Trump's civilian and military advisers, disobeying his orders. And when this came out on Facebook, Trump supporters were demanding they be jailed for disobeying direct orders from the Commander-in-Chief. 

What the Trump presidency taught us was how weak the system of checks and balances really is. As long as just 34 Senators out of 100 are willing to back his plays, the President can do anything he wants with impunity. A lot of Trump's excesses were curbed by sabotage from employees of the Executive Branch who knew that his actions might trigger widespread violence.

What I mean is that in order to get any of those items done, you need to pass laws in order to make it happen.  Getting both House and Senate to pass those laws unless the GOP can take control of both house and Senate and also defeat a fillibuster is probably not going to happen.  Its like the wall, its good for talking points but getting it done is something totally different.

Really, Trump did not really do anything that last outside of the tax breaks but then again that was when the GOP had control.  I just do not see that happening for either President this cycle.



haxxiy said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I wouldn't really call it more peaceful, just that the conflicts at the time were either over very quickly or lower intensity in general, so they couldn't "compete" with conflicts like the Chinese civil war (first spike, late 1940's), Vietnam (second spike, mid-60's to mid-70's), the Irak-Iran war (third spike, 80's) or the Arab Winter (fourth spike, 2010's) in terms of people killed directly by those wars.

It is factually more peaceful (= fewer lives lost, less material damage), you just helped explain why. Just like the Cold War period was more peaceful than WW2, yes (hence the name).

That doesn't mean it was *absolutely* peaceful by any stretch of the imagination.

Is it really more peaceful if the number of conflicts is still about the same?

While the number of armed conflicts went down a bit from the peak around 1990, there were still more conflicts than anytime before the 1980's.

Hence why I don't think it was more peaceful - it was just less intensive and an increasing amount of the death didn't come from weapons anymore, but due to hunger, disease, and the displacement itself (as in, things like exhaustion or refugee boats sinking) as those conflicts still displaced tons of people many of whom died before the conflicts in their regions ended. But those deaths are not counted into the statistic of deaths in armed conflicts, as the chart you posted also clearly states. If you'd add those to your chart, it's quite possible that the conflicts of the 1990's and 2000's would be more deadly than anytime during the Vietnam war.



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Machiavellian said:
SanAndreasX said:

Congress never punishes Trump for anything. They'd sit by silently on this one.

Trump wanted to use active duty military to fire on the DC protesters in June 2020. Did Congress do anything? No. It took Mark Esper and Mark Miliey, Trump's civilian and military advisers, disobeying his orders. And when this came out on Facebook, Trump supporters were demanding they be jailed for disobeying direct orders from the Commander-in-Chief. 

What the Trump presidency taught us was how weak the system of checks and balances really is. As long as just 34 Senators out of 100 are willing to back his plays, the President can do anything he wants with impunity. A lot of Trump's excesses were curbed by sabotage from employees of the Executive Branch who knew that his actions might trigger widespread violence.

What I mean is that in order to get any of those items done, you need to pass laws in order to make it happen.  Getting both House and Senate to pass those laws unless the GOP can take control of both house and Senate and also defeat a fillibuster is probably not going to happen.  Its like the wall, its good for talking points but getting it done is something totally different.

Really, Trump did not really do anything that last outside of the tax breaks but then again that was when the GOP had control.  I just do not see that happening for either President this cycle.

It tarnished the image of the US, possibly beyond repair. That's a pretty deep lasting impression in my books



Then there's tools like Mike Johnson doing Trump's bidding and making sure to stamp out whatever respect America had left on the international stage.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 22 February 2024

Bruh Moment.



Ryuu96 said:

Then there's tools like Mike Johnson doing Trump's bidding and making sure to stamp out whatever respect America had left on the international stage.

Not to mention state governors like DeSantis, Abbott, and Kevin Stitt (OK) who are doing their best to enact Trump's grand dream on a state level. Oklahoma is a global embarrassment right now, between the death of Nex Benedict, legislative efforts to track women who have had abortions, and hiring Chaya "Libs of TikTok" Raichik to "review" library books. Raichik is a real estate salesperson, not a teacher or librarian, and lives in New York, not Oklahoma.



Relevant here as well

Putin, Netanyahu and Trump: A Lying, Dangerous Trio

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-02-22/ty-article/.premium/putin-netanyahu-and-trump-a-lying-dangerous-trio/0000018d-d0f4-d06c-abbd-d8f4021b0000?v=1708718298185&lts=1708718352598&lts=1708718362273

What do the Russian invasion of Ukraine and death of Alexei Navalny; January 6, 2021, and 91 criminal indictments; and a constitutional coup attempt in Israel and war in Gaza all have in common?

They all involve three protagonists whose modi operandi bear an uncanny resemblance. Three people involved in a triangular bromance, gaslighting entire countries: Russian President Vladimir Putin, past and possibly future U.S. President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

All three use blustering, nationalistic slogans and platitudes to portray strength. All three promote legal amendments to fortify their power. Diligently try to abolish or severely impair checks and balances, and weaken the judiciary. All three, in different forms, intimidate political rivals with vitriol, implicit and explicit threats. All three also created a worshipping cult around them and surrounded themselves with incoherent sycophants in their respective parliaments, who avidly help spread the poison.

But their most important and frequently used tactic is attrition. To tire and depress the public into submission and resignation. Through an endless campaign of lies, conspiracy theories, false information and alternative interpretations of reality, they rely on the majority of the public to get confused, disbelieve everything, doubt all the facts.

Some of this is a matter of character. A lot of it is a tool set to increase and perpetuate power. And then there's a deeper ideological dimension. Umberto Eco's famous 1995 essay "Ur-Fascism" lists 14 features or tenets of fascism. Nine of them wholly apply to the "three amigos":

- Cult of tradition: This is strongest with Putin's czarist nostalgia and Mother Russia references, but is also at the heart of Trump's "Make America Great Again" branding and Netanyahu's messianic vision of Israel.
- Rejection of modernism: All three see liberty, reason, science and the concept of doubt/questioning as dangers.
- Disagreement is treason: Naturally. Their ideology is: I am the embodiment of patriotism, only I define what patriotism is. Those who disagree don't understand the dangers and are ingrates who fail to see my historical grandeur. 
- Appeal to social frustration: Immigrants, intellectuals and dissenters from the outside, and Mexicans, Ukrainians and Arabs from the inside, are taking over our country, polluting our culture and changing our beloved country.
- Obsession with a plot: Conspiracy theories and plots are everywhere. Everyone is out to get them, there are vile external forces at work, the deep state is conniving against them.
- The enemy is both strong and weak: Ukraine is a threat, Iran is a threat, China is a threat. All three are existential threats, but we can deal with them because they are weak.
- Machismo and weaponry: Goes without saying.
- Selective populism: They each purport to represent the voice of the real people against treacherous elites.
- Newspeak: Black is white, day is night, truth is false, lies are an alternative truth, there are facts and alternative facts.

Trump was always fawning over Putin, and meant it. Just recently, he encouraged him to attack European countries in NATO who the multi-times bankrupted GOP presidential front-runner calculated don't pay enough for their defense. For Trump, Putin is a model dictator-strongman. The thing is, while Putin truly is a dictator-strongman in the worst Russian autocratic tradition, Trump is neither – even though he pledges to become one. He is just a wannabe diet-dictator.

Netanyahu was always fawning over Trump. He didn't really mean it, because Netanyahu is a well-read and experienced politician while Trump is an idiotic, incurious and incoherent bully. But Netanyahu found solace in dealing with someone who doesn't challenge him or call his bluff the way then-President Barack Obama did. Someone who is supported by evangelical Christians, not bleeding-heart U.S. Jews. Someone determined to cancel the Iran nuclear deal simply because it wasn't his. Someone who made a major, invaluable contribution to Netanyahu's political lexicon: deep state; fake news; mainstream media cabal; "there's a conspiracy against me." Netanyahu loves and adopted this mendacious newspeak.

Putin never fawned over either of his two soulmates, only over the idea of how useful the two were to his idea of instilling chaos and discord between the United States and Europe. Most importantly, all three tend to vigorously fawn over themselves, thinking they are historical figures that contemporaries don't appreciate nearly enough. This is why any form of opposition is unpatriotic, supported by a cabal of foreign interests, and constitutes treason.

Three politicians: one in power running a deadly kleptocracy in Moscow; one barely in power running an incompetent kakistocracy in Jerusalem; and one who wants to return to power to install an improved "moronocracy" in Washington. They may be different – but where it matters, they are very much the same.

Biden sucks, but Trump will only make things MUCH worse.