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Cerebralbore101 said:

People are free to live their lives however they want as long as it doesn't hurt others. But you cannot change your gender anymore than you can change your species. No, we don't need studies showing that transgender women have an unfair advantage over cis gendered women, because we already know that men have an unfair advantage over women, and transgender women are just men. We already know that your average 17-year-old boy is 4 or 5 inches taller than your average 17-year-old girl. There are differences in muscle, skeleton, and center of gravity, too. Taking hormone blockers does not magically get rid of these advantages. If you think it does, then YOU need to present those studies. And those studies need to be done by someone who is unbiased. Not a transgender crusader disguised as a researcher and not a religious nutjob disguised as a researcher.

Again, people are free to live their lives however they want as long as it doesn't hurt others. But having someone like Laurel Hubbard roll on in and take an Olympic spot as the oldest weightlifter to ever qualify just shows how unfair it is for regular women. Hubbard was able to compete at her age because she is a man. She didn't get 1st place, but she still stole a spot in the Olympics from a cis gendered woman.

It's really annoying to talk about this topic because on one hand you have dumb mouthbreather religous types on your side, making ridiculous claims and being dumb. On the other hand, the moment you state something factual like "you cannot change your gender anymore than you can change your species" people jump out of the woodwork to call you a bigot.

Yes, I understand that intersex people exist. Some people have their hormones or DNA mess up in the womb and they become stuck between two sexes. I absolutely agree that they should be treated with respect and should be able to choose their gender. But that does not mean that Joe Schmoe who was born as a healthy male baby, should be given gender-affirming care and treated as a woman to the point of being allowed to cheat in sports? Joe can decide to transition to a woman and live his life as a woman. That's fine. I'll even call him a her whenever he begins to state that her is the preferred pronoun. I've got no problem with that. But to let Joe compete in women's sports is just as stupid as allowing a roided out, walking test tube compete in an event meant for natural weightlifters.

P.S. Most sports are a walking disaster of unfairness anyway. Drug testing is pathetic and a ton of people at the Olympic level are cheaters anyway. If they were going to be strict enough to ban transgender people then they need to be strict enough to do regular drug testing of athletes and anyone caught cheating gets stripped of their medals and gets a lifetime ban. But sports in general have no integrity so they will complain about transgender athletes but drag their feet when it comes to banning drug users.

P.P.S. This should not be a national issue and nobody should be basing their vote on this. Trans-Rights issues are not critical to this country. Anyone fighting for or against them is allowing the rich to lead them off-course with a gigantic red-herring. We should be focused on making housing cheaper, getting rid of corruption, and making healthcare cheap. If I were a representative, I would simply state that only 0.5% of my constituents are transgender and I refuse to waste precious time debating the issue or voting on it.


Edit: I'm fine with calling transgender women, women in the same way that I'm fine with calling someone who adopts a kid their father. But to act as if being a transgendered woman isn't cheating is as ridiculous as a doctor saying "Well since you are her father you should be a good match for an organ donation. No blood testing or compatibility testing needed!" Imagine a doctor just signing off on an organ transplant because someone is the adoptive father of someone else. Then things go wrong post surgery and the doctor is like "But I don't understand! They are related! It should have gone smoothly!" You can't just ignore reality like that.

I'm getting so much whiplash from your post "being trans in a sport is cheating, but cheating is common in sports anyways". 

I don't personally care about sports in general. 

A lot of the sex divides in sports are made up - there's multiple instances where women got separated from the men, once they started dominating in that sport. Is there really a biological advantage to throwing darts? 

The people at the top are generally going to be people who have some genetic advantage. The average height of a WNBA player is 9 inches taller than the average woman. 

There are so few trans athletes in the first place. People are not lining up to join sports. 

And it's not something that the government should be overriding in the first place. 

>If you think it does, then YOU need to present those studies.

You say this like people aren't trying

"The only measurement in this study in which transgender women categorically outperformed cisgender women was grip strength, which can be an indicator of overall strength. But the trans women who were surveyed had lower lung capacity, VO2 max (a measure of how efficiently oxygen is transported throughout the body, a marker of endurance capacity), and jump height.

This suggests that a transgender woman competing at, say, volleyball or long-distance running, could actually be at a disadvantage compared to her cisgender counterparts. This is likely because once someone assigned male at birth starts hormone replacement therapy, their strength and muscle mass relative to their frame declines, leaving them to “carry this big skeleton with a smaller engine,” as Pitsiladis puts it."

>Yes, I understand that intersex people exist.

So you understand that body types don't perfectly fall into a binary, what about brains? 



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Trump nominates new US special envoy for combatting anti-Semitism

US President Donald Trump has named Yehuda Kaploun to be his “Envoy to Monitor and Combat Antisemitism”.

“Yehuda is a successful businessman, and staunch advocate for the Jewish Faith and the Rights of his people to live and worship free from persecution,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

“With Anti-Semitism dangerously on the rise, Yehuda will be the strongest Representative for Americans and Jews across the Globe, and promote PEACE. Congratulations Yehuda!” he added.

Can't find a way though to live without prosecuting others.... Anti-semitism is dangerously on the rise because you changed the definition of anti-semitism to include everything you don't like, including criticism of genocide.


Trump administration seeks consent decree on Columbia over pro-Palestine protests: Report

As we previously reported, recent months have seen the Trump administration sanction Columbia University, including cancelling $400m in federal funding, over its alleged failure to crack down on anti-Semitism on campus during pro-Palestine protests last year.

Now, The Wall Street Journal reports that the Trump administration is working to force Columbia into a consent decree that would legally bind the school to follow federal guidelines on combatting anti-Semitism.

The newspaper, citing unnamed sources familiar with the matter, reported on Thursday that the potential consent decree is part of ongoing negotiations with the university to restore federal funding.

Any consent decree could last for years and would give a federal judge oversight for ensuring the school adheres to agreements on addressing anti-Semitism, the Journal said.



Palestinian-American developer quits Harvard council amid accusations of aiding Hamas: Report

Bashar Masri, a Palestinian-American businessman, has resigned from his position on the dean’s council at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, The New York Post has reported.

The report comes days after Masri was accused by nearly 200 Americans, including survivors and relatives of victims of the October 7 attacks on Israel, of providing assistance in constructing infrastructure that allowed Hamas fighters to carry out their deadly assault.

“Mr Masri has resigned from the Dean’s Council. The lawsuit raises serious allegations that should be vetted and addressed through the legal process,” the school reportedly said.

The plaintiffs in the suit, filed in the US District Court for Washington, DC, claim properties that the Palestinian American owned, developed and controlled concealed tunnels underneath them and had tunnel entrances accessible from within the properties, which Hamas used before and after October 7. Masri’s office called the lawsuit “baseless”.





If you're going to pick a fight with an authoritarian state that has been around for thousands of years, that rules with an iron fist, has little fear of elections and whose people are far tougher than Americans who have mental breakdowns at the thought of wearing a mask to a supermarket and scream about it infringing on all their human rights, maybe don't piss off all your allies so you're on your own.



Ryuu96 said:

If you're going to pick a fight with an authoritarian state that has been around for thousands of years, that rules with an iron fist, has little fear of elections and whose people are far tougher than Americans who have mental breakdowns at the thought of wearing a mask to a supermarket and scream about it infringing on all their human rights, maybe don't piss off all your allies so you're on your own.

Even with allies, it would be a tough battle against China. The collective West has made itself far too reliant on Chinese production to change its relationship with China within a few months. There would need to be a concerted effort with a roadmap of at least one decade, but for the Trump administration it already poses a challenge to think a week ahead.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

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Looks like Mahmoud Khalil is going to be deported.



SanAndreasX said:

Looks like Mahmoud Khalil is going to be deported.

Fascism.

Deported for being critical of Israel.

"Threatening the US's foreign policy goals."

Don't go to USA if you're criticised Trump, have a tattoo, criticise Israel.

So much for that freedom of speech.

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A tattoo belonging to a man from Derbyshire has appeared in a US government document used to identify members of a notorious Venezuelan gang - despite the man having no connection to the group.

Pete Belton, 44, from Ilkeston says he was shocked to find his forearm featured in a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) document used to help identify alleged members of Tren de Aragua (TdA), a transnational criminal organisation.

"I'm just an average middle-aged man from Derbyshire," he told BBC Verify.

Mr Belton's tattoo - a clock face with the date and time of his daughter's birth - was included in a set of nine images for "detecting and identifying" TdA members. Other tattoos featured stars, crowns and a Michael Jordan "jumpman" logo.

But reverse image searches show that several of the pictures first appeared on tattoo websites with no obvious links to Venezuela or TdA.

The same image of Mr Belton's tattoo also appeared in a September 2024 report by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) about TdA activity.

It's unclear exactly how Mr Belton's tattoo ended up in the US documents, but he's worried about being linked to the gang.

Mr Belton said it was a "bit strange, bit funny at first" but is now worried the family trip he booked to Miami with his wife and daughter in August might end up "being a six month all-inclusive holiday to Guantanamo".

"In my head I'm thinking if I'm working in border force and I saw me walking through I'd think 'hey up we've got one, he's the one in the document'."

Mr Belton says his family have considered cancelling their trip to the US due to the potential risks, but they are going to monitor how the story develops.

"Hopefully now they'd realise I'm not a Venezuelan gangster but I've seen crazier things happen in the news recently, so we're just going to wait and see."

British man's tattoo wrongly linked to Venezuelan gang in US government document - BBC News

In America having a tattoo of a clock is worse than having a tattoo of a swastika and only one will get you removed from the country.

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That Rhule woman sums up the many problems of the USA pretty well. Especially because she speaks out the most basic truth: Trump does not understand what a trade deficit really is.

Also worth of note is the term she uses near the end: Transatlantic partnership. You'll probably think it's ridiculous what I am going to say now, but... the reason why Trump and his administration may be against working with the EU is that term, specifically the "trans" part of it. They want none of this.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV will outsell Super Smash Bros. Brawl. I was wrong.

SvennoJ said:

Trump combatting anti-Semitism...

Just on a related note to this topic.

I really hate the doublespeak around anti-Semitism as a buzzword for anti-Israeli colonialism. On one edge of the blade, it is wielded as a weapon against legitimate free speech over human rights concerns. And on the other edge of the blade, it completely trivializes the human rights violations of actual anti-semitism from groups like the Charlottesville Tiki-Torchers, the KKK, neo-nazis, and other such groups.

You have (both indirectly and directly) the highest office in the US endorsing human rights violations.



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