Yes. If I think you're worth more I pay you more. Josh Allen makes more money than Sam Darnold. Seems pretty fair.

https://twitter.com/hellenataylor

Here is Ms. Taylor's Twitter. You will notice that on the page it says Actor, Director, Writer, Filmmaker & Barge Owner. Trained at LAMDA, Equity, SAG/AFTRA, US work visa & EU.papers

So yes, really stupid of you to suggest that I'm ok with them offering a non-union actor a lower rate to avoid paying the union minimum when they are in fact both in the union. 

And... you just said that unions don't matter because she's British and they're Japanese. So, you're arguing that unions are relevant and not at the same time. And that's not even how it works. SAG members are obligated to refuse non-union jobs anywhere in the world, which in turn means that Platinum has to abide by SAG terms if the want to use any SAG actors, which apparently they do. 

You're just pulling shit out of your ass, which reminds me of who you are and why I decided not to waste time on you, so I'll go back to doing that. Thanks for the reminder. You can respond to this if you like, but after that, do not quote or engage me pleaseandthankyou.

Well you act like this is a unique case. This happens to pretty much all voice actors. If they want more, then they need to negotiate and ask for help from whatever union their in. Helena did negotiate and PG came back with what they think she was worth. She believed she was worth more and didnt take the offer. Now she made 0 dollars and broke her NDA. I dont blame her for being insulted by the offer, but thats just something voice actors have to live with until they can negotiate better deals.

U were first reasonable, but now ur trying too hard to take Hellena's side and it's making ur statements illogical. And I'll be honest, I didn't read everything so it's very likely other people are saying something illogical as well and the whole conversation turning into a shitshow. Most of us aren't really against Hellena nor taking any side. We are just pointing out stuff we found odd from either her response, or statements we see. Especially since it looks like a lot of people are jumping to conclusion and taking Hellana's side without any evidence (not u specifically) but mostly on twitter. So I, specifically, am not on Hellena's side... yet, and nobody should be, bcuz there are still some unsettling things about this whole situation. 

So your original response to my reply was that I had misrepresented you by taking your position to be that you absolutely think the employer is the sole determiner of fair employee value/wages and then you respond here with "If I think you're worth more I pay you more."

Are there instances where employers think somebody is worth more than another employee, they aren't, and shouldn't be paid more? In those cases does "If I think you're worth more I pay you more" apply as fair? Is it ethical to provide a low-ball offer (which you yourself admitted seemingly happened) to somebody because you'd rather have somebody else, but you want to see if they'll take the low wage, which I'd assume you agree is very different from merely paying more for somebody you value more?

And I don't see how her being part of SAGAFTRA makes it better and not worse. The union rates were posted earlier in this thread.

https://www.sagaftra.org/files/2020InteractiveRateSheetFinal.pdf

Given the time she spent in the prior games, unless something is drastically different in Bayonetta 3 in terms of time-commitment they initially tried to not pay her union rates? 

Edit: Just read your edit. Wow...

One of the things we've seen on twitter are VA's taking Hellena's side about how the pay is trash and how pay for VA's is trash in general. The problem is that it isn't a unique case. What is your position on Platinum Games lying? 

I dont think they lied. Helena was the one that said PG said that "she didnt have room in her schedule". Thats not what they said. They said "various overlapping circumstances" which you can read many different ways. Its just a generic PR response.

1. When did she mention her exact initial fee?

2. When did Platinum Games lie?

Fair enough. It seems like it was NintendoLife who initially interpreted that as "scheduling conflicts."

1. She said, "they gave me an insulting offer", then talked about how she wrote a letter to Kamiya, "and it is then that they offered me $4,000." Unless you think the initial offer was higher, I don't see how it could be interpreted any other way. 

Ok I checked the third video and she did say that, I missed it. However, we still don't know what it was, and it's odd she doesn't say what the "insulting offer" was when it would help her claim more. If it was really bad, I feel like she would have said it and claimed she was offered an illegal amount. But she only said it was immoral and insulting. 4k was also insulting to her, so we don't know how much isn't insulting to her. Initial offer could well be higher than $4000 and Kamiya could have lowered the price knowing his personality, and she's only saying the $4000 to make it look worse. She said $4k was the final offer, but final offers can be lower. I'm stretching a bit here but I think it's a reasonable theory.