Agree, good point. Speaking of what u mentioned. People are expecting Bayo 3 to have more lines bcuz there's multiple Bayonettas, hence ppl r assuming it will be longer than Bayonetta 1's sessions, but we can't forget Viola (the new character). In previous games, Bayonetta was the only playable character and she was the only main character. However, this time Viola is also a playable character and looks like a lot of the plot has something to do with her. If the game is the same in length, I think the assumption that Bayo 3 has more lines for Hellena could possibly be wrong. Remember, she voiced for Bayo 1 and 2. That means the pay must have been good enough for her right? I'm starting to feel like they gave an offer less or equal to what was given for Bayo 1 and 2 (since wages are decided by the amount of work). She said that it was an insult her offer was $4k, bcuz she trained for 7 years or something. (This part doesn't even matter tbh, just because an athlete trained for 7 years for example, doesn't mean they will succeed and play for a big team. Same thing for voice actors, unfortunately what matters is the skill and worth of the actor.) But anyways, she believes it's an insult. However, the 7 years trained is presumably before Bayonetta 1 right? Or is she saying she trained 7 years in between 2014-2021 in preparation of Bayonetta 3 lol. I think the latter is unbelievable. So that means I think it's good to say she was given a decent amount for Bayonetta 1 & 2 that wasn't insulting to her. But bcuz there were less lines for Bayonetta 3, she was offered less. Just a theory.

No, I don't care about those strangers either.  Just pointing out the paradox created by said boycott.

And sure it is about me.  She, whomever she is, is calling for me to not buy the game.  Sorry but she has the wrong number on this one.  Her story, rationale and position aren't strong enough to warrant the ask.

She can't ask me to do something, but have others claim it isn't about me.  If I'm involved than well, guess what champ?  I'm involved.  

But since you brought up virtue signaling, let us talk about it.  People are upset her role was a low ball offer??  You all do realize our luxury toys involve Chinese sweat shops, right?  Dear lord online people are goofy.

Btw Jennifer Hale is a based person. Even to the people fully supporting Hellen Taylor, please don't put blame on Jennifer Hale.

No one's going to boycott the game, because let's be honest, hardly anyone gives a fuck about VA's pay, they only care about the game being good and that's about it.

4k is shitty pay pay by VA standards, so I'm not surprised she backed out. Nintendo/P* shouldn't be pulling cheap as chips sort of deals on VA's, because if you're gonna treat dubbers like shit, you're not going to win everyone over in the VA world, when they can simply go somewhere else and make good stuff along the way.

I also think I'm the only guy on this forum that actually cares about VA's in general and isn't attached to the big 3 and their practices.

"7) We don't live in a world of good vs. evil or right vs. wrong, etc. We live in a world of nuance and details that matter."

Hoo boy, someone forgot about all the wars over the past few centuries and generally ppl that go out and do bad shit, even if they think they have good reason to.

Also Margaret Thatcher, y'know for the poor ppl :)

No shade to throw at Hale, she's a good VA, but that thread she's linking, yeah nah, that 7th point is tripe.

Twitter zombies aren't interested in the truth, they just want to see the world burn in the name of justice, others intend to blindly protect their precious celebrities and extinguish their wicked enemies. I got my ass banned and insulted here by a mod presumably because I wasn't sugarcoating the fact that they are no good, or my opinion that we're conditioned to give actors special rights.

Fair wage = what the owner/manager of capital determines one's value to be?

Interesting argument which history has shown leads to the mass of people destitute and starving while the minority live in opulence. 

Personally I don't think those with capital or who manage capital should have a unilateral say over what is "fair" when it comes to remuneration. If they had their way we'd all be living on subsistence wages until our bodies or minds deteriorate, then we can just die.

SCABs typically made/make more than the workers they replaced on strike, just to add context.

Thats just ridiculous. She was offered 250$ per hour. What starving people lives on that kind of wage?

How much do VA's make per year is the real question? How many are at risk of houselessness and food insecurity? $250 /hr, especially as a contractor doesn't tell me much. 

If VA work was so lucrative, as people here think it is, it would be advertised as the go to occupation in game development. 

So companies have to keep paying voice actors until they get another job? PG would have had to pay for her for the last 8 years if that was the case. 

Like Ive said before its not a job you can make a living from in most cases. No matter how much VAs would like it to be.