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Are games a type of art?

Yes 37 68.52%
 
No 11 20.37%
 
Undecided 5 9.26%
 
Just want to see the results 1 1.85%
 
Total:54

I most certainly do.



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Like many said pretty much everything that is sold can be considered art in some form of another. So the question is more do you see games being as artistic as iconic statues, paintings etc. And to that my answer is mostly no.

Sure there are some games who try and succeed in being really artistic, but most games do not and aren't simply as artistic as say high quality paintings imo, which only exist for being art. While games mostly exist for being entertainment and for that they don't need to have many qualities that we see in high quality art, like insanely polished and detailed.

Also gaming lacks the history for them to be considered high quality art. Perhaps when they are 50 years old they will have a bigger artistic value. Same as how a Jaguar E type is widely considered a pie e of art, but modern cars which in general are as pretty and exclusive are not as widely considered as art. Games ino definitely fall in the latter category.

Last edited by Qwark - on 15 June 2022

Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

To me, art is the expression of feelings by using a certain medium. By that definition, everything (literature, cinema, sculpture, architecture, music, painting, videogames, even sports) CAN be art if they are used to express and manifest feelings in a way that cannot be shown by conventional means.

So, to me, something like Call of Duty (especially the more recent titles), or Mario Strikers is NOT art. But something like Mario Galaxy or Spec Ops: The Line IS art.



Art can be a painting. But you can go to a museum and see a turd on top of a rock and they claim its art.

You can play the last of us , why its not art ? But you see a movie like pulp fiction and its art.
Is battle Royale game art ?

Who gives a shit.



 

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Art can be a painting. But you can go to a museum and see a turd on top of a rock and they claim its art.

You can play the last of us , why its not art ? But you see a movie like pulp fiction and its art.
Is battle Royale game art ?

Who gives a shit.

I don't think it matters.  My wife is an artist, and most artist (just my experience) view "true" art as non functional.  It is kind of a defining feature.  But yeah, I agree, it doesn't really matter.  I would rather play a videogame than go to a museum...  so people should just enjoy whatever it is they enjoy.



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Absolutely! gaming is the purest form of art out there. It features visual, interactive , audio and storytelling art, and also top notch animation.



IcaroRibeiro said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Nope. Art is the stuff people pretend to like to feel superior to others.

I actually enjoy games and I don't particularly care what others think.

Dou think people pretend to like music ?

Definitely. Although I think it's more likely for people to pretend to hate music. There are a lot of people that get awfully pretentious about music and hate on things to feel superior.

Personally I couldn't care less what people think about the music I like, or what music they like. I don't try and argue that it's "art" or not, I just enjoy it for what it is and leave others to enjoy theirs.



Chrkeller said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Art can be a painting. But you can go to a museum and see a turd on top of a rock and they claim its art.

You can play the last of us , why its not art ? But you see a movie like pulp fiction and its art.
Is battle Royale game art ?

Who gives a shit.

I don't think it matters.  My wife is an artist, and most artist (just my experience) view "true" art as non functional.  It is kind of a defining feature.  But yeah, I agree, it doesn't really matter.  I would rather play a videogame than go to a museum...  so people should just enjoy whatever it is they enjoy.

She's totally lost them. The first kind of art expression humans developed was painting, and we started because we wanted to keep register of primitive daily lifes. Some forms of art appeared from very functional needs, think of architecture. 



IcaroRibeiro said:
Chrkeller said:

I don't think it matters.  My wife is an artist, and most artist (just my experience) view "true" art as non functional.  It is kind of a defining feature.  But yeah, I agree, it doesn't really matter.  I would rather play a videogame than go to a museum...  so people should just enjoy whatever it is they enjoy.

She's totally lost them. The first kind of art expression humans developed was painting, and we started because we wanted to keep register of primitive daily lifes. Some forms of art appeared from very functional needs, think of architecture. 

She isn't lost because it is an opinion.  Many would argue architecture isn't the same as art, which is demonstrated by being two completely programs at University.  



IcaroRibeiro said:

Kojima said he don't think games are art, for me this man can go fuck himself. Never liked his games anyway

Feel free to use the thread to share videos or pictures that prove games are art!

I think you should add a spoiler warning to your opening post, since there's definitely stuff there some of us wouldn't have experienced yet.

As for whether games are art: or media forms are art to varying degrees. And art is about conveying certain emotions and saying something about the world around us. 

In reality, I don't think many games do this: they just tell stories, which is fine, but that doesn't make them artistic. And I think it's possible for someone to truly work out eras for this thing, but really I feel it's no different to how one art form informs what comes next.

You know, before we had pop art, which essentially made art understandable and mass available, we had abstract art (probably one of the more difficult ones to truly understand). So art itself can also be, not really art. Warhol's soup can is just as much art as anything from Da Vinci, Van Gogh and Dali. But it's obviously tapping into a different reality than the other artists I mentioned.

Games wouldn't be any different, I feel.