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Mummelmann said:

Off-topic, but, OP, when the hell did you get back?! I haven't seen you post in years!

okr said:

The return of the oldest VGC member.

super_etecoon said:

I have a feeling this thread is going to have a hard time staying on track

Hey all! Been what 5 years since I graced this community with superchunk. Glad to see so many of you from as far back as 2007 around. Am I now the oldest member who is "technically" active?



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superchunk said:

I do really hope movies/series get made out of Sanderson's core stories. Though I think he needs to be directly involved to ensure the integrity of the story is held true. 

I really doubt it would make any change - he was involved with WoT, even being somewhat negative about first few episodes when it started airing, and then he changed his tune - after all, he wants his books to be made as show and doesn't want to bite the hand who can provide that - in the end neither GRR Martin nor Sapkowski had control of the mess that ended up being their respective shows.



Cosmete can't be adapted into live actions. Guys, dropped it already

Stormlight Archive is specifically impossible. It's an alien planet, with a typically strange fauna and flora. Except by Shinovar it barely resembles earth, means almost every time they are outdoors they will need to be at a green screen (and sometimes even in doors, interacting with animals and spren)

If green screen is such an standard, why bother ? Just make an animation



IcaroRibeiro said:

Cosmete can't be adapted into live actions. Guys, dropped it already

Stormlight Archive is specifically impossible. It's an alien planet, with a typically strange fauna and flora. Except by Shinovar it barely resembles earth, means almost every time they are outdoors they will need to be at a green screen (and sometimes even in doors, interacting with animals and spren)

If green screen is such an standard, why bother ? Just make an animation

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/solutions/film-television

From what I hear from my colleagues from VFX, doing things with Unreal is becoming quite a thing.

Animation would be great, but selling that to mainstream audience is a lot harder than live action show with CGI.



Would I want one? No, but Mistborn would probably work okay as a game.

All I could think while reading it was that it was very ... superhero-ish. More like Batman than a fantasy novel, and the magic was more like superpowers. Very casual-friendly for a fantasy novel, as well, so I'm not surprised that it's popular. I once told a friend it was the MCU of fantasy, though that's probably not fair. To be perfectly honest, I didn't care much for it. It's the first Sanderson book I've read and probably the last.

Actually, now that I think about it, Dishonored kind of fills the same niche already.

Gardens of the Moon would be a much more interesting backdrop but that's never going to happen.



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HoloDust said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Cosmete can't be adapted into live actions. Guys, dropped it already

Stormlight Archive is specifically impossible. It's an alien planet, with a typically strange fauna and flora. Except by Shinovar it barely resembles earth, means almost every time they are outdoors they will need to be at a green screen (and sometimes even in doors, interacting with animals and spren)

If green screen is such an standard, why bother ? Just make an animation

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/solutions/film-television

From what I hear from my colleagues from VFX, doing things with Unreal is becoming quite a thing.

Animation would be great, but selling that to mainstream audience is a lot harder than live action show with CGI.

Good animation show is likely to be much more successful and less expensive to break even. A crap TV show is likely to generate nothing but bad press and pass mostly unnoticed 

There is market for animation, even if it's smaller than live actions. Arcane made far more buzz than The Wheel of time. 

It's not like Cosmere had such a high marketability potential anyways. A live action seems like just a huge waste of money 



IcaroRibeiro said:
HoloDust said:

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/solutions/film-television

From what I hear from my colleagues from VFX, doing things with Unreal is becoming quite a thing.

Animation would be great, but selling that to mainstream audience is a lot harder than live action show with CGI.

Good animation show is likely to be much more successful and less expensive to break even. A crap TV show is likely to generate nothing but bad press and pass mostly unnoticed 

There is market for animation, even if it's smaller than live actions. Arcane made far more buzz than The Wheel of time. 

It's not like Cosmere had such a high marketability potential anyways. A live action seems like just a huge waste of money 

The thing is, if you make animation show, chances are you're never going to get to mainstream market - and that's what most streamers are trying to do with "the next GoT". True, if you're fine with fantasy being niche (I am, it is better that it stays that way after what they're doing to it lately, and Wheel of Time is a perfect example), then animation is more than obvious choice.



HoloDust said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Good animation show is likely to be much more successful and less expensive to break even. A crap TV show is likely to generate nothing but bad press and pass mostly unnoticed 

There is market for animation, even if it's smaller than live actions. Arcane made far more buzz than The Wheel of time. 

It's not like Cosmere had such a high marketability potential anyways. A live action seems like just a huge waste of money 

The thing is, if you make animation show, chances are you're never going to get to mainstream market - and that's what most streamers are trying to do with "the next GoT". True, if you're fine with fantasy being niche (I am, it is better that it stays that way after what they're doing to it lately, and Wheel of Time is a perfect example), then animation is more than obvious choice.

There is no next GOT, mainly because GOT isn't big because of the fantasy side, but because on its heart ASOIAF is a book about political conflicts, it's much closer to series like The Tudors than most fantasies. If they pursue a next GOT, Stormlight might be one of the worst options in the market 

Fantasies seems to have more market space when they are juvenile, like Harry Potter, Narnia or Dark Materials. 

That's said, it's hard to regard Stormlight as t even Fantasy, is something more akin to sci-fi  really (and Sanderson plan is to make late cosmere book to be sci-fi based). Things are just too... strange, to resemble fantasy. The species are made-up, there are planets and travel between them. Rythmn of War have large sections explaining a lot about lights, mater and anti-mater, energy, engineering. The magic seems to be really grounded by physics. In Mistborn era 2 they are in XIX levels of scientific progress and this looks a lot like a The Legend of Korra

I truly believe Cosmere is a Steampunk universe disguised as High Fantasy 



IcaroRibeiro said:

Cosmete can't be adapted into live actions. Guys, dropped it already

Stormlight Archive is specifically impossible. It's an alien planet, with a typically strange fauna and flora. Except by Shinovar it barely resembles earth, means almost every time they are outdoors they will need to be at a green screen (and sometimes even in doors, interacting with animals and spren)

If green screen is such an standard, why bother ? Just make an animation

Avatar says hello.

I think they can do alien worlds that look great very easily. This could be movie/show/game and there are other examples. Though it would need big budget investment to be done well and really go deep into the characters, magic, worlds, etc.



superchunk said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Cosmete can't be adapted into live actions. Guys, dropped it already

Stormlight Archive is specifically impossible. It's an alien planet, with a typically strange fauna and flora. Except by Shinovar it barely resembles earth, means almost every time they are outdoors they will need to be at a green screen (and sometimes even in doors, interacting with animals and spren)

If green screen is such an standard, a why bother ? Just make an animation

Avatar says hello.

I think they can do alien worlds that look great very easily. This could be movie/show/game and there are other examples. Though it would need big budget investment to be done well and really go deep into the characters, magic, worlds, etc.

Well, with we are talking about expending infinite money then I'm sure anything is possible, I mean, just look at Guardians of Galaxy, it portrays many planets with particular environment and is mostly done using a very nice CGI and sometimes practical effects 

Avatar had a 250 million production budget for a loving with around 160 minutes. And sources actually says the real budget for Avatar was closer to 1 billion because of R&D expending to develop the technology necessary to make the movie possible, and of course other expenses such as marketing, distribution, legals, etc

The only Stream show with such a huge investment is the upcoming Lord of the Rings series.