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IcaroRibeiro on 25 April 2022
Endymion said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Japan will soon not only being a Nintendo-only market in terms of Hardware, but a Nintendo monopoly in terms of software as well 

That's a bit too late to worry about.

Nintendo's first-party software have already accounted for over 40% of the annual total physical software sales for the last four consecutive years.

That was because Playstation 4 was dying. I wasn't expecting PS5 to struggle that much to gain ground. Third parties aren't growing in Japan, they are declining. Third parties don't sell on Switch nearly as much as they used to sell on DS, and unlike during 3DS times we have no Vita/PS3/PS4 to push Third party sales

I'm very confused why nobody address this as problem. Won't that hurt Japan market in long therm ? 



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Kneetos on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Endymion said:

That's a bit too late to worry about.

Nintendo's first-party software have already accounted for over 40% of the annual total physical software sales for the last four consecutive years.

That was because Playstation 4 was dying. I wasn't expecting PS5 to struggle that much to gain ground. Third parties aren't growing in Japan, they are declining. Third parties don't sell on Switch nearly as much as they used to sell on DS, and unlike during 3DS times we have no Vita/PS3/PS4 to push Third party sales

I'm very confused why nobody address this as problem. Won't that hurt Japan market in long therm ? 

People have been addressing it

I've seen a number of people on other sites state its the reason some Japanese companies are making their games to appeal more to western audiences

Wasn't it last week this site reported that Square Enix's ceo said that japanese devs shouldn't make their games more western focus (or something along those lines) it makes me think that he knows that some devs are thinking about it, if not already doing it



IcaroRibeiro on 25 April 2022
Kneetos said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

That was because Playstation 4 was dying. I wasn't expecting PS5 to struggle that much to gain ground. Third parties aren't growing in Japan, they are declining. Third parties don't sell on Switch nearly as much as they used to sell on DS, and unlike during 3DS times we have no Vita/PS3/PS4 to push Third party sales

I'm very confused why nobody address this as problem. Won't that hurt Japan market in long therm ? 

People have been addressing it

I've seen a number of people on other sites state its the reason some Japanese companies are making their games to appeal more to western audiences

Wasn't it last week this site reported that Square Enix's ceo said that japanese devs shouldn't make their games more western focus (or something along those lines) it makes me think that he knows that some devs are thinking about it, if not already doing it

This seems an egg vs chicken problem. Are third parties declining in Japan because devs are trying to appeal to West or are devs trying to appeal to West because their sales are declining?

Also lmao with SQUARE ENIX stating something like that. This is this meme coming alive: 



Agente42 on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Kneetos said:

People have been addressing it

I've seen a number of people on other sites state its the reason some Japanese companies are making their games to appeal more to western audiences

Wasn't it last week this site reported that Square Enix's ceo said that japanese devs shouldn't make their games more western focus (or something along those lines) it makes me think that he knows that some devs are thinking about it, if not already doing it

This seems an egg vs chicken problem. Are third parties declining in Japan because devs are trying to appeal to West or are devs trying to appeal to West because their sales are declining?

Also lmao with SQUARE ENIX stating something like that. This is this meme coming alive: 

The decline has some factors:

1) the big Third parties are attached to sony space, Sony ecosystem is decreasing in two generations. So the sales of big third decreasing along.

2) Digital ratio increase, but in Japan market counts, best case scenario, 30-35%. Japan is the more physical market we know. 

3) Sony focuses on the European and US market, with few games development for the Asia market in mind. So aggravates sony lost the Japanese market.

And other tidbits, Switch stop the market from severe decreasing overall. The sony market is decreasing not market at all. 



IcaroRibeiro on 25 April 2022
Agente42 said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

This seems an egg vs chicken problem. Are third parties declining in Japan because devs are trying to appeal to West or are devs trying to appeal to West because their sales are declining?

Also lmao with SQUARE ENIX stating something like that. This is this meme coming alive: 

The decline has some factors:

1) the big Third parties are attached to sony space, Sony ecosystem is decreasing in two generations. So the sales of big third decreasing along.

2) Digital ratio increase, but in Japan market counts, best case scenario, 30-35%. Japan is the more physical market we know. 

3) Sony focuses on the European and US market, with few games development for the Asia market in mind. So aggravates sony lost the Japanese market.

And other tidbits, Switch stop the market from severe decreasing overall. The sony market is decreasing not market at all. 

Monster Hunter Rise sales on Switch were okay-ish considering the userbase, when "World" debuted on Ps4 with a third of Switch userbase everybody said Playstation caused a decline of Monster Hunter, but hopefully Rise would sell mote and... that didn't happened.

Aside of Momotaro what was the last big third party hit in Japan ? Every other franchise seems to have their sales declining instead of increasing 

Looks more like an overall lack of interest for third party games on Switch, while Nintendo IPs are getting more and more popular. 



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Kakadu18 on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Agente42 said:

The decline has some factors:

1) the big Third parties are attached to sony space, Sony ecosystem is decreasing in two generations. So the sales of big third decreasing along.

2) Digital ratio increase, but in Japan market counts, best case scenario, 30-35%. Japan is the more physical market we know. 

3) Sony focuses on the European and US market, with few games development for the Asia market in mind. So aggravates sony lost the Japanese market.

And other tidbits, Switch stop the market from severe decreasing overall. The sony market is decreasing not market at all. 

Monster Hunter Rise sales on Switch were okay-ish considering the userbase, when "World" debuted on Ps4 with a third of Switch userbase everybody said Playstation caused a decline of Monster Hunter, but hopefully Rise would sell mote and... that didn't happened.

Aside of Momotaro what was the last big third party hit in Japan ? Every other franchise seems to have their sales declining instead of increasing 

Looks more like an overall lack of interest for third party games on Switch, while Nintendo IPs are getting more and more popular. 

Excuse me but Rise sold a good deal more than World in Japan. It's at almost 4mil while World only sold 3.3mil and the expansion hasn't released yet.



Agente42 on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Agente42 said:

The decline has some factors:

1) the big Third parties are attached to sony space, Sony ecosystem is decreasing in two generations. So the sales of big third decreasing along.

2) Digital ratio increase, but in Japan market counts, best case scenario, 30-35%. Japan is the more physical market we know. 

3) Sony focuses on the European and US market, with few games development for the Asia market in mind. So aggravates sony lost the Japanese market.

And other tidbits, Switch stop the market from severe decreasing overall. The sony market is decreasing not market at all. 

Monster Hunter Rise sales on Switch were okay-ish considering the userbase, when "World" debuted on Ps4 with a third of Switch userbase everybody said Playstation caused a decline of Monster Hunter, but hopefully Rise would sell mote and... that didn't happened.

Aside of Momotaro what was the last big third party hit in Japan ? Every other franchise seems to have their sales declining instead of increasing 

Looks more like an overall lack of interest for third party games on Switch, while Nintendo IPs are getting more and more popular. 

Monster Hunter world has more content than Rise, the game is pale in content when compared with World. The game sells well for a Monster Hunter but lacks content when compared with World.  The sales legs are hurting because of this. With digital surpassing 3,8 million and World sells 3,3 million. 

Momotaro has the best sales historic in Switch. 3,5 million only in the Japanese market.

All the other big games skipped Switch. How do you demand big sales with zero big AAA games on Switch, aside from Monster Hunter?

Last edited by Agente42 - on 25 April 2022

PaulPortland on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Endymion said:

That's a bit too late to worry about.

Nintendo's first-party software have already accounted for over 40% of the annual total physical software sales for the last four consecutive years.

That was because Playstation 4 was dying. I wasn't expecting PS5 to struggle that much to gain ground. Third parties aren't growing in Japan, they are declining. Third parties don't sell on Switch nearly as much as they used to sell on DS, and unlike during 3DS times we have no Vita/PS3/PS4 to push Third party sales

I'm very confused why nobody address this as problem. Won't that hurt Japan market in long therm ? 

You're right, it is very disturbing, if this goes like so, soon Japan will have no 3rd party games or they will lose so many releveance at this path.

Also, a Solution would be that the 3rd party get Nintendo Switch Ports where is what japanese people like more to play. But, just simply the hardware does not work for that... I hope the Switch's succesor be a capable hardware to move games at least at 720p. 

Only to say, do you imagine how good for japan would be they can play Elden Ring on handled mode? Would be good i say



IcaroRibeiro on 25 April 2022
Kakadu18 said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Monster Hunter Rise sales on Switch were okay-ish considering the userbase, when "World" debuted on Ps4 with a third of Switch userbase everybody said Playstation caused a decline of Monster Hunter, but hopefully Rise would sell mote and... that didn't happened.

Aside of Momotaro what was the last big third party hit in Japan ? Every other franchise seems to have their sales declining instead of increasing 

Looks more like an overall lack of interest for third party games on Switch, while Nintendo IPs are getting more and more popular. 

Excuse me but Rise sold a good deal more than World in Japan. It's at almost 4mil while World only sold 3.3mil and the expansion hasn't released yet.

Is only 700k more than World that impressive considering how many times bigger Switch is compared PS4? People always argued World sales were a big flop compared to previous installment, which is always find baseless as World is more expensive and lack the portability but alas this is beyond the point. Both Rise and World are selling less than previous installment, I'm falling to find many third party IPs that are selling more in Japan than they used to 



Kakadu18 on 25 April 2022
IcaroRibeiro said:
Kakadu18 said:

Excuse me but Rise sold a good deal more than World in Japan. It's at almost 4mil while World only sold 3.3mil and the expansion hasn't released yet.

Is only 700k more than World that impressive considering how many times bigger Switch is compared PS4? People always argued World sales were a big flop compared to previous installment, which is always find baseless as World is more expensive and lack the portability but alas this is beyond the point. Both Rise and World are selling less than previous installment, I'm falling to find many third party IPs that are selling more in Japan than they used to 

Monster Hunter 4 was with 4.1mil the best selling Monster Hunter on 3DS and Rise is just below it after it's first year. It'll top it this year without issue.

Btw Story of Seasons: PoOt I think sold more than previous games used to sell but I'm not sure. It had the by far biggest launch of the franchise anyway.