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It's not hard to tell that some German politicians are so against helping Ukraine and so against doing something against Putin for reasons which are not motivated by what they think is the best.

I guess there are hundreds of these networks build to manipulate people through politicians and media





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Sumy and Kharkiv Oblast are being pounded by artillery.

Energy infrastructure is being destroyed.

Fuck Mike Johnson.





Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi published an interview with Ukrinform, some theses:

- Just in February-March of this year (as of March 26), the enemy lost more than 570 tanks, about 1,430 armored combat vehicles, almost 1,680 artillery systems and 64 air defense systems. - Enemy activity in the air was also reduced thanks to the skill of our air defense units. In just 10 days in February, they shot down 13 enemy aircraft, including two strategically important A50 surveillance and control aircraft. We hope to receive from our partners more air defense systems and, most importantly, missiles for them.

- Valery Fedorovich Zaluzhnyi and I worked side by side during the most difficult times since the beginning of the Russian full-scale invasion, and even before. We worked as one team. I wish him success in his new and very responsible position.

- I can confirm that the composition of the General Staff and other military command and control bodies will be updated with combat officers with extensive practical experience in combat operations, which they acquired on the fields of this war.

- Today the process of rotation of military units on the front line has already been launched, which allows us to fully restore the combat effectiveness of not only equipment, but above all to ensure the rest and recovery of our military personnel. To ensure this process we need people. That is why I would like every person of military age in Ukraine to realize that it depends on his will and actions for Ukraine to survive.

- Ukrainians continue to defend their country, in particular when returning from abroad. We have a lot of volunteers, and this is not an exaggeration. I am not saying that there are no problems, but I emphasize that we are doing everything to solve them.

- We are currently reviewing the strength of certain units not participating in combat operations based on an audit of their activities. This allowed us to release thousands of troops and send them to combat units.

- We withdrew our forces from Avdiivka because the enemy had a significant advantage in the forces and means of assault units. Due to constant bombardment by guided aerial bombs, the integrity of our defenses was compromised, which allowed the enemy to gradually advance forward. The insufficient amount of ammunition for our artillery also played a negative role. This did not allow effective counter-battery warfare under such conditions. To avoid encirclement and save people’s lives, I decided to leave Avdiivka.

- We cannot ignore any information about the enemy's preparation for offensive actions, so we are taking all measures to adequately respond to such a possibility. Today we are carrying out a large complex of works on fortification equipment of territories and positions. We already have experience in combat operations in the Kharkiv region, we managed to “calculate” the enemy and liberate a significant part of the Kharkiv region. At this time, a large-scale collapse of the Russian front occurred. If the Russians go there again, Kharkiv will become a fatal city for them.

- We are very grateful to our Western allies, NATO countries, the European Union and other partners for their support. Without such support, without the supply of weapons, ammunition, air defense systems, and heavy equipment, it would be much more difficult for us to fight an insidious and powerful enemy. The latest case is Avdeevka. We would, of course, maintain these positions if we had a sufficient number, first of all, of air defense systems and artillery shells. This is not a complaint, but a statement of fact.

- We can mention the rearmament of artillery units with the domestic 155-mm Bogdan cannon, while simultaneously equipping it with an automatic fire guidance system. Soon, we can expect that some samples of Western howitzers and domestic rifled mortars will be produced in Ukraine. Another good example is the restoration and overhaul of American-made M777 howitzers. We have established production of some of these parts here in Ukraine. In particular, when restoring each unit of this howitzer, 40 percent of the parts and spare parts manufactured for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at domestic enterprises are used.



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Bolton advises that Putin is waiting to see how the 2024 presidential election plays out, as a Trump win will be very beneficial for Putin. Trump is already influencing politics by making the senate and congress not want to help ukraine. However, the financial maven and ubergenuis has indicated that he'll support a loan for ukraine so this may be the only aid that could be given if Trump wins.

I'm thinking that the various trials that Trump is facing will decide whether or not he will become the next president.
Anyway, here is bolton's take on this and he doesn't spell it all out like im doing.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-may-eyeing-ceasefire-ukraine-after-us-election-john-bolton-1884398



shavenferret said:

Bolton advises that Putin is waiting to see how the 2024 presidential election plays out, as a Trump win will be very beneficial for Putin. Trump is already influencing politics by making the senate and congress not want to help ukraine. However, the financial maven and ubergenuis has indicated that he'll support a loan for ukraine so this may be the only aid that could be given if Trump wins.

I'm thinking that the various trials that Trump is facing will decide whether or not he will become the next president.
Anyway, here is bolton's take on this and he doesn't spell it all out like im doing.

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-may-eyeing-ceasefire-ukraine-after-us-election-john-bolton-1884398

If Trump wins, it won't be a ceasefire, Putin will try to take the entire country or at minimum, Kherson to Odessa and Kharkiv to Kyiv. If Biden wins and Dems retake House, it'll send a nasty message to Russia that America is back and will be supporting Ukraine for at least another 4 years.

Right now things are somewhere around a stalemate and a slight Russian advantage but neither is in a strong position. Russia is just better at manipulating people through threats which makes the West reluctant to do certain things out of fear of "escalation" but Ukraine won't surrender, with or without America's support, too many deaths, too much justified rage, Ukraine will despise Russia the next century, a ceasefire will not stop conflicts. Russia won't give up the territory they've taken, the only way is pushing Russia out of Ukraine.

But they need the USA for it.





 Zelensky: ‘We are trying to find some way not to retreat’

KYIV — President Volodymyr Zelensky delivered a stark message to Congress in an interview on Thursday as Russian missiles were pounding southern Ukraine: Give us the weapons to stop the Russian attacks, or Ukraine will escalate its counterattacks on Russia’s airfields, energy facilities and other strategic targets.

“If there is no U.S. support, it means that we have no air defense, no Patriot missiles, no jammers for electronic warfare, no 155-milimeter artillery rounds,” he said. “It means we will go back, retreat, step by step, in small steps.”

“We lost half a year” while Congress bickered, he said. “We can’t waste time anymore. Ukraine can’t be a political issue between the parties.” He said critics of aid for Ukraine didn’t understand the stakes in the war. “If Ukraine falls, Putin will divide the world” into Russia’s friends and enemies, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/29/ignatius-zelensky-interview-ukraine-aid-russia/

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BFR said:

 Zelensky: ‘We are trying to find some way not to retreat’

KYIV — President Volodymyr Zelensky delivered a stark message to Congress in an interview on Thursday as Russian missiles were pounding southern Ukraine: Give us the weapons to stop the Russian attacks, or Ukraine will escalate its counterattacks on Russia’s airfields, energy facilities and other strategic targets.

“If there is no U.S. support, it means that we have no air defense, no Patriot missiles, no jammers for electronic warfare, no 155-milimeter artillery rounds,” he said. “It means we will go back, retreat, step by step, in small steps.”

“We lost half a year” while Congress bickered, he said. “We can’t waste time anymore. Ukraine can’t be a political issue between the parties.” He said critics of aid for Ukraine didn’t understand the stakes in the war. “If Ukraine falls, Putin will divide the world” into Russia’s friends and enemies, he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/29/ignatius-zelensky-interview-ukraine-aid-russia/

Tell em Zelensky.

"Give us the weapons to stop the Russian attacks, or Ukraine will escalate its counterattacks on Russia’s airfields, energy facilities and other strategic targets."

So if he really did say this then I suppose America is telling him to stop that stuff, Zelenskyy usually isn't one to mince his words and I've been surprised how nice he has been towards the Republicans these past few months but I get why he is doing it, in case the Republicans win the election and Ukraine needs American support, it sounds like he is getting fed up though.

Ukraine desperately needs more Patriots, one of the missiles which Russia uses can only be intercepted by Patriots.