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Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 27 June 2022







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Well played by Turkey. Predictable, but well played. Doesn’t matter though; Sweden and Finland joining is more important at this time.



I’m actually sad for the YPG. The Kurds can’t get a break :(

There’s a lot of bullshit that happened in that war. European volunteers that helped them deal with ISIS/Daesh, then having to flee to South America because Turkey and Western governments declared them terrorists.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 30 June 2022

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So I don't have a link as it being reported in live newsfeeds, but looks like Russia have abandoned Snake Island in the face of repeated Ukrainian strikes on the strategic location.

Symbolic victory for Ukraine as the island was one of the first places to fall to the Russian invasion, and the infamous incident with the (now sunken) Moskva being told told go f*** itself. Strategically, I'm not sure how this plays out with the Russian blockade and the practicalities given the islands' vulnerability to Russia's Black Sea Fleet. But still, a notable development in Ukraine's favour.

Note- Russia is saying it is a 'goodwill gesture' to facilitate grain exports and asks that Ukraine demine its costal waters. Errr....what? Everyone with ahlf a brain knows what Russia would immediately do if Ukraine did that. Russia may claim they won't attack Odessa but they've proven repeatedly that you can't take them at their word.



SecondWar said:

So I don't have a link as it being reported in live newsfeeds, but looks like Russia have abandoned Snake Island in the face of repeated Ukrainian strikes on the strategic location.

Symbolic victory for Ukraine as the island was one of the first places to fall to the Russian invasion, and the infamous incident with the (now sunken) Moskva being told told go f*** itself. Strategically, I'm not sure how this plays out with the Russian blockade and the practicalities given the islands' vulnerability to Russia's Black Sea Fleet. But still, a notable development in Ukraine's favour.

Note- Russia is saying it is a 'goodwill gesture' to facilitate grain exports and asks that Ukraine demine its costal waters. Errr....what? Everyone with ahlf a brain knows what Russia would immediately do if Ukraine did that. Russia may claim they won't attack Odessa but they've proven repeatedly that you can't take them at their word.

Yeah.

It was strategically important to Russia as it's essentially an unsinkable ship, once the Moskva was destroyed it became even more important, Russia don't want their ships too close to Odessa as Ukraine has the equipment to blow them up, Snake Island can become a replacement for Moskva and they can pack it with various missile systems but it's also a 'ship' that can't move and Ukraine kept bombing the shit out of it.

Not sure if Ukraine will attempt to retake it, I don't know if that is important to Ukraine and Russia would likely bomb it anyway just like Ukraine has been doing but at least with Russia off Snake Island it should theoretically make grain exports a tiny bit easier to achieve but still many other issues with that.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 30 June 2022