Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

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Bofferbrauer2 on 25 January 2023

KiigelHeart said:

Just saw this, maybe this explains why that Hungarian fellow though only US wants to support Ukraine. I can only speak for Finland here, but this is a flat out lie. Every survey says over 90% of people here want more sanctions to Russia even if it means higher energy etc prices and more support to Ukraine.

Majority of Europeans want the war to end & peace to be restored - acc. to @Szazadveg.

The war & sanctions have taken a great toll on European econs & households. Therefore, we must focus all our efforts on an immediate ceasefire & peace talks for the common European interest! pic.twitter.com/q6qx1YouZL
— Balázs Orbán (@BalazsOrban_HU) January 21, 2023

I saw the actual survey: The question was extremely biased and basically amounted to "do you want peace or them to be at war forever and spilling over into EU?". Of course, if the question is loaded like that, most say peace. I'm actually surprised many more saw through this and didn't choose peace, I was expecting a 90%+ result due to how the question was asked.

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SecondWar on 25 January 2023

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Ka-pi96 said:

TIL dictionaries don't exist in russia. If they did they'd know that putin's regime is MUCH closer to the Nazis than anything Ukraine has ever had.

What's that? Never heard of this before.

Abbreviation of ‘today I learned’.

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

BREAKING: Spain will join the delivery of Leopard tanks to Ukraine - El Pais
— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) January 25, 2023

Swedish Defense Minister Pål Jonson said that a donation of Stridsvagn 122 (🇸🇪 version of the Leopard 2) could be relevant in the future.

"Currently, preparations are not made for a donation of tanks from Sweden, but it is not excluded that this could happen at a later stage.”
— NOËL 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 (@NOELreports) January 25, 2023

⚡️Media: Portugal preparing to hand over 4 Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine.

Portugal is now preparing to give Ukraine four Leopard 2 tanks, Correio de Manha reported on Jan. 25, citing unnamed government sources.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) January 25, 2023

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crissindahouse on 25 January 2023

Only 14 from Germany 😏

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

Senior U.S. official tells me sending Abrams tanks to help retake territory taken by Russia includes helping Ukraine retake Crimea taken by Russian in 2014
— Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports) January 25, 2023

Hmm. So America expects them to be used in an offensive? Interesting.

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

Israel refuses to give back to the U.S. old Hawk air-defense missile systems that it mothballed years ago. Because God forbid Putin may get upset that some of his cruise missiles killing Ukrainian civilians will get shot down. https://t.co/2P8PKZqBpW
— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) January 25, 2023

Great ally. /s.

Meanwhile Russia is kitting out their biggest rival (Iran).

Fucking cowards.

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

President Biden now: Today, I'm announcing the US will be sending 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, the equivalent of one battalion. He says it'll take time to train Ukrainians on them. Germany has stepped up, he says. He thanks Scholz for sending Leopard tanks.
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 25, 2023

Biden recycling some past lines. "Putin expected the Finlandization of NATO, but got the NATOization of Finland. Something he never expected."
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 25, 2023

Biden: As I told President Zelensky when he was here in December – and today's his birthday, by the way – we're with Ukraine all the way.
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 25, 2023

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

“News of Germany’s decision to send its tanks to Kyiv was met with jubilation by Ukrainians who showed their excitement and appreciation online—especially sartorially. Ukrainians shared photos of themselves dressed in leopard-print shirts, coats, pants, bodysuits and sunglasses.” https://t.co/aZ9Y0kx7dV
— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 25, 2023

31 Abrams (USA) + 14 Challengers (UK) + 14 Leopards (Germany) + 14 Leopards (Poland) = 73 Western MBTs Pledged So Far.

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Ryuu96 on 25 January 2023

Ukraine will now push for Western fourth-generation fighter jets such as the U.S. F-16, an adviser to Ukraine's defence minister tells Reuters

"They didn't want to give us tanks, now they're giving us tanks. Apart from nuclear weapons, there is nothing left that we will not get"
— Faytuks News Δ (@Faytuks) January 25, 2023

#BREAKING Norway will send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine: defence minister pic.twitter.com/6ZxjDOPQaL
— AFP News Agency (@AFP) January 25, 2023

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Bofferbrauer2 on 25 January 2023

IS there an exhaustive list somewhere of what has been sent or pledged to Ukraine so far?

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