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Ryuu96 said:

The New York Post’s July 11th edition shows the body of 14-month-old Dmytryk on its cover, killed by a drone manually operated by a Russian operator. It’s a relief the world is seeing the truth, but devastating that it takes such unimaginable pain and suffering to be noticed

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— Tatarigami (@tatarigami.bsky.social) 11 July 2025 at 12:43

I wonder if they're taking after the IDF or just getting more barbaric from similar impunity while the war drags on.


Horrifically this is a daily occurrence in Gaza, children now getting killed by cheap photography drones from China outfitted with grenades by the IDF. Targeting anything that moves.

https://www.972mag.com/drones-grenades-gaza-chinese-autel/

According to interviews with seven soldiers and officers who served in the Strip, these drones are operated manually by troops on the ground, and are frequently used to bomb Palestinian civilians — including children — in an effort to force them to leave their homes or prevent them from returning to evacuated areas.

Soldiers most commonly use EVO drones, produced by the Chinese company Autel, which are primarily intended for photography and cost around NIS 10,000 (approximately $3,000) on Amazon. However, with a military-issued attachment known internally as an “iron ball,” a hand grenade can be affixed to the drone and dropped with the push of a button to detonate on the ground. Today, the majority of Israeli military companies in Gaza use these drones.

Drones are now used as the replacement of mine fields, flying mines operated manually... There need to be regulations about drone use just like the Anti-Personnel Mine Ban Treaty, but atm that wouldn't matter anyway. International law has been buried by Putin, Netanyahu and the US. 


And of course Trump won't do shit against Putin, while both will prevent the UN/UNSC to even discuss regulating drones.

It will only keep getting if Trump keeps stalling, misdirecting attention and undermining any progress in reaching a ceasefire / drive out Russia from Ukriane.



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Ryuu96 said:

Since we're talking about drones, Ukraine has a solution but it needs funding.

🇺🇦❗️We will shoot down EVERYTHING if our partners hear what I told them. We have found a solution – interceptor drones. For the necessary finances, – Zelensky.

‼️ “Our people are not getting enough sleep. Putin wants to destabilize our society with such strikes. Their plan is 700-1000 drones per day.”

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 10 July 2025 at 17:56

⚡️Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks.

During several months of testing, the system intercepted nearly 550 Russian drones over Kyiv Oblast, an official said.

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— The Kyiv Independent (@kyivindependent.com) 11 July 2025 at 12:11

A new air defense record for Ukraine’s 3rd Assault Brigade: 268 Russian drones shot down in just one month using their own UAVs.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 11 July 2025 at 12:37

Recently I've been thinking about the need to develop interceptor drones due to the increase amount of drones Russia has been using, but I was worried about their maturity any time soon... This sounds very promising for sure. I hope the funding situation gets resolved.



Ukrainian Knowhow + German Cash = Game-Changing Long-Range Missiles
Ukraine’s armed forces will receive the first batch of several hundred locally produced long-range missiles funded by Berlin under an agreement signed in Kyiv on Friday.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/56189

Basically, the Germans supplied some cash that Ukraine needed elsewhere, and i'm guessing that this enabled ukraine to buy whatever parts were delaying the missles to be fully built.

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Another article on the matter says that these missiles will arrive later this month.

https://kyivindependent.com/germany-funded-long-range-arms-to-arrive-in-ukraine-by-late-july-general-says/



Video on the change in Trumps stance on aiding Ukraine.  I think he is still wanting that nobel peace prize, but realizes that Russia will only be beaten down as a means to peace.  



🇺🇳🇺🇸 NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte will visit Washington on July 14–15, where he’s scheduled to meet with Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, and Pete Hegseth, according to Reuters.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 July 2025 at 18:51

👀🇺🇦 Next week there should be positive changes in the interests of Ukraine, — Zelensky.

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 13 July 2025 at 18:58

‼️Sen. Graham says a record arms package for Ukraine is coming soon, with a statement from Trump expected tomorrow.

“The idea of us selling weapons to help Ukraine is very much in play. Stay tuned for seized assets... and a plan to sell massive arms to our European allies that can benefit Ukraine.”

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 July 2025 at 19:00


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If something actually happens then it finally answers the question whether Trump was a Russian asset or just fucking stupid/cowardly, the latter would be the answer, I'm not holding my breath for a major change but we'll see. There's still about $4bn in PDA which Biden approved last year earmarked for Ukraine that Trump still hasn't touched even though it was already approved for Ukraine outside of his presidency so he had the perfect excuse to utilise it; "Biden already approved it" but he never did. Maybe he finally uses it.

Of course though America's help has to come at a cost, Lol. How are Republicans going to spin things now when they accused Democrats for years of profiteering on this war? Oh well, at least it's something and Europe has the money to buy it on behalf of Ukraine and they should, since Ukraine isn't in any position to buy expensive weapons. Trump could easily seize all of Russia's assets in an instant and use that as payment for supplying Ukraine, Lol. But I don't expect him to do that.

Hopefully Europe doesn't buy American weapons for itself, focus on resupplying our militaries with European systems whilst buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine and once the war is over, Ukraine can then make a careful transition over to European standard. EU + UK has the choice in the matter since they aren't being attacked, Ukraine has no choice and has to take whatever they can get.

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Ryuu96 said:

If something actually happens then it finally answers the question whether Trump was a Russian asset or just fucking stupid/cowardly, the latter would be the answer, I'm not holding my breath for a major change but we'll see. There's still about $4bn in PDA which Biden approved last year earmarked for Ukraine that Trump still hasn't touched even though it was already approved for Ukraine outside of his presidency so he had the perfect excuse to utilise it; "Biden already approved it" but he never did. Maybe he finally uses it.

Of course though America's help has to come at a cost, Lol. How are Republicans going to spin things now when they accused Democrats for years of profiteering on this war? Oh well, at least it's something and Europe has the money to buy it on behalf of Ukraine and they should, since Ukraine isn't in any position to buy expensive weapons. Trump could easily seize all of Russia's assets in an instant and use that as payment for supplying Ukraine, Lol. But I don't expect him to do that.

Hopefully Europe doesn't buy American weapons for itself, focus on resupplying our militaries with European systems whilst buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine and once the war is over, Ukraine can then make a careful transition over to European standard. EU + UK has the choice in the matter since they aren't being attacked, Ukraine has no choice and has to take whatever they can get.

It's like trump just wants a deal, and it doesn't matter what ukraine has to lose in order to secure the deal.  The aid he promises possibly just like someone holding a carrot in front of a donkey.  Its not that they want to help the donkey or ukraine, but a means to a different end.  



shavenferret said:
Ryuu96 said:

If something actually happens then it finally answers the question whether Trump was a Russian asset or just fucking stupid/cowardly, the latter would be the answer, I'm not holding my breath for a major change but we'll see. There's still about $4bn in PDA which Biden approved last year earmarked for Ukraine that Trump still hasn't touched even though it was already approved for Ukraine outside of his presidency so he had the perfect excuse to utilise it; "Biden already approved it" but he never did. Maybe he finally uses it.

Of course though America's help has to come at a cost, Lol. How are Republicans going to spin things now when they accused Democrats for years of profiteering on this war? Oh well, at least it's something and Europe has the money to buy it on behalf of Ukraine and they should, since Ukraine isn't in any position to buy expensive weapons. Trump could easily seize all of Russia's assets in an instant and use that as payment for supplying Ukraine, Lol. But I don't expect him to do that.

Hopefully Europe doesn't buy American weapons for itself, focus on resupplying our militaries with European systems whilst buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine and once the war is over, Ukraine can then make a careful transition over to European standard. EU + UK has the choice in the matter since they aren't being attacked, Ukraine has no choice and has to take whatever they can get.

It's like trump just wants a deal, and it doesn't matter what ukraine has to lose in order to secure the deal.  The aid he promises possibly just like someone holding a carrot in front of a donkey.  Its not that they want to help the donkey or ukraine, but a means to a different end.  

He has maybe also finally realised how much Russia/Putin has totally fucking embarrassed and walked all over him but he knows he can't "give Ukraine handouts" as he put it with Biden because his fanbase would lose their shit, so he will make a "deal" out of it where America gets paid billions from Europe for their support to Ukraine because Republicans can't do the right thing unless they profit from it, Lol.

But if it gets Ukraine support then whatever, lets pay America, Ukraine's survival is more important than my hatred of Trump.

At this point and I don't think this would happen, but Trump could seize all of Russia's assets in America which I think amounts to around $60-$70bn and pocket some for himself and I'd accept that as long as it gets Ukraine support, someone in his admin should tell the greedy bastard to do that, Lol. Not like he cares about laws.

And Europe needs to grow a spine and seize Russia's assets fully, not just the interest but the entire thing, use these assets to purchase American weapons instead of using our own money which is needed to replenish our military stocks, the only reason to keep the assets is to use them to rebuild Ukraine but we won't have a Ukraine to rebuild if they don't get the weapons to beat back Russia.

Just take the assets already otherwise Europe will end up paying out the ass to rebuild our own militaries, paying out the ass to supply Ukraine with American weapons which Trump will probably overcharge us for, and open the doors for far-right to get into power because public systems will be cut to find the money, instead of just taking the money from the Nazi country doing Nazi shit.

There's like $200bn in frozen Russian assets, that can easily fund Ukraines military for years and I don't give a fuck about those who scream "Bu-Bu, we can't do that, it sets a scary precedence" um no, it only sets a scary precedence to countries who are fucking Nazis, Lol. And you know what, if you're going to be a Nazi, then fuck your assets, you don't deserve shit and we should take them.

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Ryuu96 said:

Hopefully Europe doesn't buy American weapons for itself, focus on resupplying our militaries with European systems whilst buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine and once the war is over, Ukraine can then make a careful transition over to European standard. EU + UK has the choice in the matter since they aren't being attacked, Ukraine has no choice and has to take whatever they can get.

There are a few articles in the American arsenal that have no real equal anywhere else in the world. I can understand when they buy one of those (like Germany buying F-35 to replace their antique Panavia Tornado as a nuclear bomber) if there's really no other option for the role, but otherwise they should buy European as much as possible, and if there isn't an European Version of what they're looking for, they should look at other countries first, like South Korea, Brazil, Australia or Canada.

Oh, and with European standard, did you mean transitioning from WP to NATO standard equipment? Or what did you mean by European standard?



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Hopefully Europe doesn't buy American weapons for itself, focus on resupplying our militaries with European systems whilst buying American weapons on behalf of Ukraine and once the war is over, Ukraine can then make a careful transition over to European standard. EU + UK has the choice in the matter since they aren't being attacked, Ukraine has no choice and has to take whatever they can get.

There are a few articles in the American arsenal that have no real equal anywhere else in the world. I can understand when they buy one of those (like Germany buying F-35 to replace their antique Panavia Tornado as a nuclear bomber) if there's really no other option for the role, but otherwise they should buy European as much as possible, and if there isn't an European Version of what they're looking for, they should look at other countries first, like South Korea, Brazil, Australia or Canada.

Oh, and with European standard, did you mean transitioning from WP to NATO standard equipment? Or what did you mean by European standard?

I just meant buying European equipment, Lol. If EU + UK will wean themselves off American equipment then Ukraine should do so as well because USA isn't a reliable partner, but for now they have no other choice so might as well pack themselves with American equipment and then post-war start a slow process of transitioning to European equipment where possible. We need an official European Army but I'll take everyone unofficially getting on the same page instead.