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Ryuu96 4 days ago

🇪🇺 "Ready and willing. Europe is prepared to step up, lead in providing security guarantees for Ukraine, and invest more in defense. Details to come, but the commitment is clear," NATO Boss Mark Rutte after the Paris meeting.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 17 February 2025 at 22:08

Tomorrow, the EU to discuss a €5B military aid package for Ukraine, set to arrive soon — Radio Svoboda. The package includes 1.5 million artillery shells, additional air defense systems, long-range precision missiles, drones, and support for rebuilding brigades

www.radiosvoboda.org/a/news-posly...

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 17 February 2025 at 21:29

A Russian delegation has arrived in Saudi Arabia. Tomorrow, they will meet with the US delegation to discuss the start of negotiations with Ukraine. Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov denied reports of Ukrainian participation, stating the talks are purely bilateral with the US.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 17 February 2025 at 19:54

🇺🇦 Almost present but not involved: Zelensky is in the UAE on a long-planned visit but insists he won’t engage in the talks. “Ukraine will not take part in the negotiations between the US and Russia. Ukraine did not know they were planned.”

www.politico.eu/article/volo...

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 17 February 2025 at 19:03


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Bofferbrauer2 4 days ago

Europe is slowly stepping up their game, and Russia is about to feel that their stinger has quite a punch



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SanAndreasX 4 days ago
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yes, Iran the terrorist led country helps Russia, Lol. China I already mentioned, I'm aware of some South American, African and Asian countries trading with Russia, I'm aware of Russia's influence over Africa. Still, the majority of the world disagrees with Russia's actions so I'm not sure where you're getting it from that it's a small portion of Europe only. Some countries trade because Russia is their biggest trade partner, I don't believe it necessarily means they agree with Russia, they're just too cowardly to cut Russia off.

South Korea, Japan and Canada haven't been quiet at all? Japan is Ukraine's 4th largest supporter in terms of pure $ value and Canada is 5th. Japan in particular has talked a lot of shit about Russia because they hate Russia due to the Kuril Islands dispute. South Korea hasn't been quiet vocally but less supportive militarily but they do border with a country which wants to see them destroyed.

I could also say that Russia's army on paper was the 2nd most powerful in the world but look at how that turned out, they couldn't beat a country whose army on paper was in the high 20s. I think it's arguable if Europe has the political will to fight Russia and that's the scary part, but I do believe it is insane to argue that Europe couldn't beat Russia if it came down to it (if we remove nukes). Russia can't even take 20% of Ukraine without resorting to mopeds, donkeys, etc. What makes you think they could take on Poland, Baltics, Nordics, UK, France, Germany, Türkiye, Italy, etc? Lol.

Ukraine has a huge land-army and so does Russia, I think your mistake is thinking that NATO would get involved in an artillery slog battle, if Russia achieved air superiority which they tried to do countless of times then the war would have been lost, but Russia failed to do so, NATO isn't designed anymore to fight WW1-like battles, they will largely fight via the skies and seas before sending in the troops, this is where we have the huge superiority. If Europe had balls, Russia would have been pushed out of Ukraine already.

The Baltic Sea is a NATO Sea now, the Black Sea is controlled by Türkiye, Russia wouldn't be able to reach even Poland before European planes were flying overhead and turning Russians to paste. The argument will however, come back to, if we have the stomach for it, that is where I see the debate, WW3 isn't something anyone wants and even though I do believe Europe would win, it would come at large cost, Russia still has plenty of missiles that could do a lot of damage to us.

But Europe has made the hard choices in the past, more than America, such as WW1 and WW2. America dragged their feet to get involved in WW2 and only did so when they were practically forced into it by Japan, otherwise they likely never would have made the painful choice to get involved. But now Europe has felt peace for so long, I think many European leaders are too used to it and can't imagine it changing. It's a question of political will, not a question of actual capability, and you also ignore the fact that Europe would also enter a war economy mode with a population far greater than Russia and economy far greater than Russia. 

Russia isn't collapsing anytime soon unless some of the Republics within Russia want out and force the country into a civil war, but the sharp decline is undeniable. Their losses will take decades to rebuild, and that's just on the military hardware front. They are sending their next generation to bleed out all while they already had a very low birth rate, essentially meaning that Russians are slowly dying out on the long run. Their economy is a mess, they can't keep war economy up for much longer yet also have committed to it so much that there ain't much of alternative left anymore. Putin rose the country from the ashes of the Soviet Union, and is returning it to the ashes step by step as we're speaking. Even if they were to achieve a complete victory in Ukraine, it would be a Phyrric one at best, as Russia is slowly getting on it's knees and will never get up from there anymore without major support from a stronger entity.

Ukraine's economy is similarly in the gutter, but they have one big advantage: Support from other countries, both for keeping them in the fight now and for reconstruction after the weapons fall silent means they keep their fighting force intact and their economy afloat, something Russia simply can't do. Russia lost the war, if they win on the battlefield or not.

China will be happy to have Russia as a vassal state, so long as they have cheap access to Russia's oil and minerals. I imagine they don't want any of Russia's geopolitical baggage, though.



shavenferret 4 days ago
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Europe is slowly stepping up their game, and Russia is about to feel that their stinger has quite a punch

Right, i think that Europe has slowly realized that they had better step up the aid because Trump is probably going to dissapoint everybody.  I also believe that European politicians should be calling out Trump much more than they are doing.  Blast him for being a russian stooge, as his standing in others eyes is the only thing his evil narcissistic ass cares about. 



Zkuq 4 days ago
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Europe is slowly stepping up their game, and Russia is about to feel that their stinger has quite a punch

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's either all or mostly talk, just like it's been so far.

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shavenferret 4 days ago

Trump says US to increase military sales to India, eventually provide F-35 jets

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/markets/commodities/trump-says-india-agreed-purchase-more-us-oil-gas-2025-02-13/

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Jesus, trump is selling our prized fighter to a BRICS nation...



shavenferret 4 days ago

I also think that Ukraine holds all of the cards in the upcoming negotiations, because they can sign that mineral deal anytime they want. So, ukraine will be able to set the terms accordingly. Also, Russia is getting very tired and won't be able to continue for much longer.

Keep fighting Ukraine, take your time, and make sure that other European nations can be a part of the negotiations. Light always chases away the cockroaches, and so will the transparency created by having many nations involved.



SanAndreasX 4 days ago

“My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.“

- Neville Chamberlain, 30 September 1938



Bofferbrauer2 4 days ago
shavenferret said:

Trump says US to increase military sales to India, eventually provide F-35 jets

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/markets/commodities/trump-says-india-agreed-purchase-more-us-oil-gas-2025-02-13/

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Jesus, trump is selling our prized fighter to a BRICS nation...

India traditionally was using Russian equipment, but they started to divest from it slowly already before the invasion. Being fully dependent on Russian equipment deliveries is the main reason why India sides with Russia (or abstains) in some UN resolutions, they simply can't afford to lose their military supplier.

Western nations taking over as main suppliers of equipment to India would actually be a good thing as Russia couldn't coerce them anymore in protecting them in the UN.



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drkohler 3 days ago
Zkuq said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Europe is slowly stepping up their game, and Russia is about to feel that their stinger has quite a punch

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's either all of mostly talk, just like it's been so far.

Agree. As long as Hungary and Slovakia (Slovenia?) have any influence in the EU, nothing is going to happen. They are reliable Putin stooges.

Expect any number of politicians showing up on tv, explaining "We are really going to show them!" without any results. Particvularly Scholz is an extreme example of that.