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Forums - Sales Discussion - Switch and PS5 Sales Drop, XS Sales are Flat - Global Hardware Jan 30-Feb 5

This is the peak for Xbox Series in Japan so far, isn't it? 6k is a lot there.
RIP PS4 in Japan, only 9 this week apparently. Switch continues to dominate globally, as expected.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 144 million (was 73, then 96, then 113 million, then 125 million)

PS5: 105 million Xbox Series S/X: 60 million

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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eva01beserk said:
Pionner said:

Ok but the SS doesn't make up that much for SX sales. SS has been in stock for months.

I'm thinking the ss was only in demand during the hollidays as people really needed anything at all. Now we are back to it being in readyly available everywhere. Its the only console ive ever seen in a store. I also dont get why they insist on having the xbox in the us above the ps5. 

So what you're saying is since the Series S is in stock that means it's not selling well? An item doesn't need to be sold out to sell well. 



XS selling 50% more than PS5 in the Americas is quite something.
It's even not that far behind in Europe/Sonyland.
Much more competitive gen than last for sure.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Mummelmann said:

I haven't seen a Series X or PS5 in a store here in Stockholm since they were released, same story online. Now that I'm actually looking for one, I find it quite annoying.

Just do like I did, there was one second hand locally, it was 700 euros, I offered 600 euros the seller accepted it. That was back in May, I'm very happy, its by far the best playstation ever, much better than my ps4 pro, its much quieter, almost silent, much faster too and the controller is way better too.

If I didn't have a PC I might have chosen the xbox because I always preferred my elite 2 controller.

I had issues with rest mode, but I learned how to fix it easily, so now the ps5 is perfect.



There's not much of a point in fighting over PS5 sales on a regular basis. Sony announced that they plan to ship 2.0 million units this quarter, divided by 13 weeks you get 154k on average. When VGC shows right around that number globally, all you can complain about is the regional breakdown. But that's moot when any sales you want to be added somewhere have to be taken away elsewhere.

2.0m is a minimum figure, but this is the final quarter of the fiscal year. The margin of error is traditionally slim during this timeframe, so PS5 sell-through will remain modest for the time being.



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Maybe I’m not being fair or charitable but I still don’t really understand why so many posters here still want to question VGcharts numbers and methods when:

* they have been more accurate than most other estimates, including big firms like Ampere
* why even post here if you think the numbers are bunk



Sogreblute said:
eva01beserk said:

I'm thinking the ss was only in demand during the hollidays as people really needed anything at all. Now we are back to it being in readyly available everywhere. Its the only console ive ever seen in a store. I also dont get why they insist on having the xbox in the us above the ps5. 

So what you're saying is since the Series S is in stock that means it's not selling well? An item doesn't need to be sold out to sell well. 

You can think I said whatever you want. But xbox Holliday surge is not news to anybody or up to debate. 



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aTokenYeti said:

Maybe I’m not being fair or charitable but I still don’t really understand why so many posters here still want to question VGcharts numbers and methods when:

* they have been more accurate than most other estimates, including big firms like Ampere
* why even post here if you think the numbers are bunk

I want our estimates to be as accurate as possible with the available data. But adjustments do happen when more numbers become available.

If we were to be as accurate as possible from when we post figures we would be 3 months or more behind as we would have to wait for Nintendo and Sony shipment figures. 



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aTokenYeti said:
Pionner said:

Ok but the SS doesn't make up that much for SX sales. SS has been in stock for months.

As someone who has worked in retail, I can tell you that something being in stock all the time does not at all mean that it’s struggling to sell, at least not necessarily. Our highest volume items would get weekly and sometimes daily stock replenishment. 

The overwhelming majority of current Xbox sales are going to be the Series S precisely because it is on store shelves when nothing else is 

My point is January NPD proves the SS is not selling that well enough to make up for when SX is out of stock. Nobody expected PS5 to sell the most January. SS is always available and a simple restock makes PS5 win NPD. I expect this to happen for many months this year. 

eva01beserk said:
Pionner said:

Ok but the SS doesn't make up that much for SX sales. SS has been in stock for months.

I'm thinking the ss was only in demand during the hollidays as people really needed anything at all. Now we are back to it being in readyly available everywhere. Its the only console ive ever seen in a store. I also dont get why they insist on having the xbox in the us above the ps5. 

Yeah the holidays is one thing. Outside that SS is the least demand next gen console. Again, January shows it's not enough to beat a low stock PS5.

Wouldn't be surprised if the February 10th restock alone already outsold the SS.   

RolStoppable said:

There's not much of a point in fighting over PS5 sales on a regular basis. Sony announced that they plan to ship 2.0 million units this quarter, divided by 13 weeks you get 154k on average. When VGC shows right around that number globally, all you can complain about is the regional breakdown. But that's moot when any sales you want to be added somewhere have to be taken away elsewhere.

2.0m is a minimum figure, but this is the final quarter of the fiscal year. The margin of error is traditionally slim during this timeframe, so PS5 sell-through will remain modest for the time being. 


If you're going to base PS5 weekly numbers on the 2M estimate, then vgchartz will be doing some major adjustments in the coming weeks, months, leading up to the next financial report.

aTokenYeti said:

Maybe I’m not being fair or charitable but I still don’t really understand why so many posters here still want to question VGcharts numbers and methods when:

* they have been more accurate than most other estimates, including big firms like Ampere
* why even post here if you think the numbers are bunk

I'm only asking the reason for the weekly sales numbers when actuallity bares something different. Nobody is saying the sites numbers are useless or fake. 

  



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Great sales. Love how pretty much every time the is a sales thread like this we get some Sony fans coming in saying how the numbers are off and PS5 numbers are not high enough, XBSS is not selling since its always in stock so the numbers have to be wrong etc.